Gandhi erected in Leicester

[Zingari]

statues all look the same with a traffic cone on the head anyway

i wish they'd dig out that "Liberty Shoes" one from the factory near filbo and find a place for it , (somewhere like castle gardens)

[The People's Hero]

Curry is Bangladeshi

Not all curry is Bangladeshi although almost ALL curry houses in Maidstone are Bangladeshi run.

[Zingari]

neither John , Tony nor Edwina Curry was Bangladeshi

[Rt Hon Percy Longprong]

Here is a quote form Gandhi...

"It would be a sad day fior England if it has to inherit the Indian scale and the Indian tastes so utterly unsuitable to the English environment"

Was'nt that his brother Goosey Goosey ?

[Flynny]

I don't remember reading this thread before but I really don't see why there's any opposition to building a statue of pretty much the most influential man of the last century.

[acooling08]

erected

yeah i know i'm immature

[Alexikokopops]

To be honest who really cares?

It's only a statue.

I have no problems with it.

[blue blood]

I mean would you stick a statue of Queen Victoria up in India... I very much doubt it as they'd be tearing it down within a few days as it'd remind them of the occupation that we had over them... what reason have we for then putting a statue of the person who arguably instigated the fight back against us up in the middle of the country?

Like I said, there are a lot of Indian's here but they should realise that Ghandi is a great political figure for THEIR country, not ours and therefore there shouldn't be a statue here.

Have you been to india?

[blue blood]

Perhaps someone would give me one good reason a statue of Ghandi should be erected in Leicester?

I'd sooner have a turbaned statue of The Singh - perhaps on the corner between the Swan and the Hospital.

I could look over to it from the doorway of the pub with my Barbers and raise a toast to absent friends!

Or even one of The Singh and Raj shaking hands in silent tribute to cultural goodwill.

Who the hell is Ghandi to me or to Leicester?

Wow youre the only man in leicester?

[blue blood]

Just another waste of taxpayers money,unless its being bought privately?

I am in the belief that this is england,and we are quickly losing our identity,or worse still,its being taken from us.

I dont get this at all,the goverment are trying to intergrate communities,and cull racism,but here we have a classic example of something that just adds more tension...its total bollox

Do they really think it wont get vandalised?

But then again,leicester is going to be the first city in Europe to have a majority asian population,so what gives!

having said that,the countrys fooked anyhows,as is leicester.....its a shithole

god knows why they are expanding the city center,its full of dossers,and europeans,looking to steal your money

never i have seen it in such a bad way

whatever next?...... a statue of Ollie in his full glory,perched on top of the cock tower?

I do like this sorts of threads,as it always brings the ones that deem opinions like these as being racist

What is our identity?

[Rocky Dennis]

Some facts that came out of the debate...

1) An overwhelming majority of city residents who contacted the council about the statue supported it.

2) The majority of respondents who took part in internet polls on the subject also supported the statue.

3) The applicants ARE a registered charity, based in Leicester (contrary to the myth circulated earlier in the thread).

4) Neither they or the Council have any objections to other figures being commemorated in a similar fashion.

5) People of distinction have been revered in Leicester for over 2000 years, regardless of their connections (or lack thereof) with the city.

6) Gandhi is being celebrated for his achievements and beliefs, not for his race or nationality.

7) The statue will attract extra visitors (and not just from the Asian community) and bring more trade (and therefore money and jobs) to the city.

8) It will also boost Leicester's national and international prestige (just like our football team used to do... )

9) The Council took far more flak when honouring Nelson Mandela in 1986, yet were ultimately vindicated.

10) The statue is already bringing people together. It was welcomed by councillors from various parties and backgrounds (Christian, Hindu and Muslim).

Good post Mr Ultra.

Could you elaborate on how a poxy statue alone will bring more visitors to Leicester?

I personally do lots of travelling and have visited many cities in the UK and abroad but I have not visited anywhere on the strength of what statues they have!!

[AoWW]

Good post Mr Ultra.

Could you elaborate on how a poxy statue alone will bring more visitors to Leicester?

I personally do lots of travelling and have visited many cities in the UK and abroad but I have not visited anywhere on the strength of what statues they have!!

Really? Shame on you!

[Dr The Singh]

Well I've said enough of Gandhi and the statue issue, and no fooker has come up with any answers!!!

Unfortunately i'm on a course this week, when i get time i will gladly explain some true facts and give some analagies with some popular figures in society today, and compare\'what if' these figures did what Gandhi did, would you erect there statues.

As a reminder, Gandhi was a bigot, a racist, he didn't free India, the empire needed the money and offered India to Gandhi, infact India could of have gained freedon 20 years before but as he was not the instigator of the movement (gadar movement)he went as far to jeopardise there movement!!

Yes, he worked hard for his principles and even went to prison, but who did he do it for, the world, the native people of the indus valley or for his kin??????

He is a myth, and i'm so glad modern scholary has pointed this infact the owrld is alot more open place, the internet, and the flow of info has opened even Indians eye to this myth, in a place (India) where slandering Gandhi is a crime!!

[Zingari]

Well I've said enough of Gandhi and the statue issue, and no fooker has come up with any answers!!!

Unfortunately i'm on a course this week, when i get time i will gladly explain some true facts and give some analagies with some popular figures in society today, and compare\'what if' these figures did what Gandhi did, would you erect there statues.

As a reminder, Gandhi was a bigot, a racist, he didn't free India, the empire needed the money and offered India to Gandhi, infact India could of have gained freedon 20 years before but as he was not the instigator of the movement (gadar movement)he went as far to jeopardise there movement!!

Yes, he worked hard for his principles and even went to prison, but who did he do it for, the world, the native people of the indus valley or for his kin??????

He is a myth, and i'm so glad modern scholary has pointed this infact the owrld is alot more open place, the internet, and the flow of info has opened even Indians eye to this myth, in a place (India) where slandering Gandhi is a crime!!

again, well said , Mr Singh , but unfortunately no one ( with any influence) seems to care and most disinterested citizens just have a, "it's just a statue " attitude

(i have read your posts and some of the links and you seem to have unearthed a lot of little known facts about him )

he has absolutely no connection with the city of leicester ( reason enough alone, surely)and there is plenty of evidence that what you have posted should give rise to a little circumspection in making this man out to be the saint that he is portrayed

but i am resigned to the fact that it will happen anyway

[Alexikokopops]

again, well said , Mr Singh , but unfortunately no one ( with any influence) seems to care and most disinterested citizens just have a, "it's just a statue " attitude

To be honest who really cares?

It's only a statue.

I have no problems with it.

[Zingari]

sorry

it was meant as a generalisation of the attitude of most leicester citizens , not anyone in particular

[Alexikokopops]

sorry

it was meant as a generalisation of the attitude of most leicester citizens , not anyone in particular

No worries, it's a pretty apt description of my attitude about the statue anyway

[FilboFox]

From the BBC Website:

"The statue would be almost 4m high (13ft), made of bronze and would stand on a granite plinth."

4m?!? Bloody hell... I thought it'd just be life sized not some bloody great giant size!

[JadeFalcon]

what i find astonishing is this so called "charity" has £20K to throw around in the first place, while the government has to sent an £800M fund to help india's poor people ?

and no dont jump on me cause of the £800M, we should help all the worlds poor people, i just find it hard that this charity has £20K to throw around in the first place? if they want to actually do some good they should be sending the money elsewhere, not errecting a statue that is A, not wanted and B, nothing to do with leicester

i'm also sick of seeing (not on this site but others discussing this) that because any person that says they do not want this is instantly labelled as racist, i'm sick of this whole racist thing to be honest with u

we had to kick off a campaign just to have the sporting statue in the town center, did the council want to do anything to celebrate that ? did they fook, why cant we have something connected with leicester ? how about the attenboroughs or the inventor of dna fingerprinting ? amongst the multitude of other famous people ?

crap like this just creates even bigger divides, u think the germans would put up with a statue of winston churchil ? i think not or as somebody else put it, a statue of victoria in india ? like hell

-=edit=- i'm with the singh on this one, i'd rather have a statue of manjit singh than ghandi any day, atleast mr singh has actually done something for leicester

-=another edit=- regarding the council saying they would be happy with a ghandi statue or a gary lineker one ?... <--- just saying this so they dont sound racist why did we have to campaign for 2 years to have the sporting statue put up ? but now say we would be happy with either ? these fooks didnt even want to celebrate the fact we had 3 good sporting teams in leicester, talk about being 2 faced bastards, its all for the VOTES, same way with this 10p tax rate cut... chop it off then try and hand it back to us at the next general election, in the hope that we will have forgotten about it by the time it comes round, why do you think they are letting all the immigrants in ? its the only people that will vote for them any more, labour know they are well and truly screwed at the next election, i am in no way aportiing any blame on immigrants to this country, you cant blame people for wanting a better life, i blame the government, labour do not give a crap about ANYBODY in this country, scots / welsh / irish / australian / indian / etc / etc ... they just want votes, i mean if somebody let you into their country wouldnt u vote for them ?

dirty labour bastards and trust it to be keith vaz involved aswell.... should he not be more concerned about europe seeing as he is minister for europe ? same thing with brown.. bleating on about how his holiday in the US was ruined because of the the supposed "media uproar" over the 10p tax cut then going on touting about how US-EU relations can be stronger... wtf is it his business anyway ? his business should be THIS country and this one alone

votes votes votes votes votes is all that matters to labour... otherwise they would'nt have spat in the faces of 5M low paid workers by abolishing the 10p tax making the poor even more poor while cutting the tax for the higher earners ? .... i guarantee there will be a pile of shit "cleaned and shiney" policy for the next election where they make it sound like they are doing us the favor and giving the supposed 10ptax people something in the hope they are dumb and have forgotten what was taken from them in the first place ?

[Kilworthfox]

what i find astonishing is this so called "charity" has £20K to throw around in the first place, while the government has to sent an £800M fund to help india's poor people ?

and no dont jump on me cause of the £800M, we should help all the worlds poor people, i just find it hard that this charity has £20K to throw around in the first place? if they want to actually do some good they should be sending the money elsewhere, not errecting a statue that is A, not wanted and B, nothing to do with leicester

i'm also sick of seeing (not on this site but others discussing this) that because any person that says they do not want this is instantly labelled as racist, i'm sick of this whole racist thing to be honest with u

we had to kick off a campaign just to have the sporting statue in the town center, did the council want to do anything to celebrate that ? did they fook, why cant we have something connected with leicester ? how about the attenboroughs or the inventor of dna fingerprinting ? amongst the multitude of other famous people ?

crap like this just creates even bigger divides, u think the germans would put up with a statue of winston churchil ? i think not or as somebody else put it, a statue of victoria in india ? like hell

-=edit=- i'm with the singh on this one, i'd rather have a statue of manjit singh than ghandi any day, atleast mr singh has actually done something for leicester

I am with you 100%! We may as well erect a statue of George Bush ... either of them!

What the fook has Ghandi got to do with Leicester? There are lots of Somalians in Leicester also what they don't have is political representation, this is just about votes for Mr Vaz

[coale39]

what i find astonishing is this so called "charity" has £20K to throw around in the first place, while the government has to sent an £800M fund to help india's poor people ?

Agreed, 20k could go a long way to actually helping people in this country and others.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Northampton is full of Kosovans but we don't have a statue of Shefki Kuqi.

[Ultra]

what i find astonishing is this so called "charity" has £20K to throw around in the first place, while the government has to sent an £800M fund to help india's poor people ?

and no dont jump on me cause of the £800M, we should help all the worlds poor people, i just find it hard that this charity has £20K to throw around in the first place? if they want to actually do some good they should be sending the money elsewhere, not errecting a statue that is A, not wanted and B, nothing to do with leicester

The £20k will be spent on sculpting the statue in India, then transporting it here.

It will earn many times that in tourism revenue for the city.

And by the way, the majority of submissions to the council DID support the statue.

Still, better not let the facts get in the way of a decent rant, eh?

[Zingari]

The £20k will be spent on sculpting the statue in India, then transporting it here.

It will earn many times that in tourism revenue for the city.

And by the way, the majority of submissions to the council DID support the statue.

Still, better not let the facts get in the way of a decent rant, eh?

is that a fact

[JadeFalcon]

if ppl wanted to see anything to do with ghandi they would look it up on the net or go to india, a single statue does nothing to create tourism, u think ppl are going to come to leicester just to see a statue ? rofl now if u were talking the national science centre or the shires, that creates an influx of visitors, not a statue, people dont come to leicester just to see our sporting statue do they ? i think not

also, why is this statue being made in india and transported over here ? why not invest in the local surrounding area ? why not just make it in india and leave the fooking thing there ?