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Manwell Pablo

Were we right to get rid of Warnock?

By Manwell Pablo, in Leicester City Forum

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Zingari

Zingari

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surely if people are still saying that Holloway has not had enough time to turn things around at Leicester, then the same rule applies to Warnock, and its too early to make any judgment as to what has happened at CP :whistle:

kyleolly

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Warnock left us after we were relegated we didnt get rid of him. How long have u bin supporting united Manwell 2 days you know nothing lol im off to walk dog up field see thee later down t'pub

Manwell Pablo

Manwell Pablo

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Warnock left us after we were relegated we didnt get rid of him. How long have u bin supporting united Manwell 2 days you know nothing lol

Yes I know but I couldn't think of another decent Sheff u topic :crylaugh:

Apart from team for Southampton, that would of been a giggle.

Tabou

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Which players do you reckon could be useful to us if Leicester go down ?

Janice the tea lady.

Brian the handyman, and margeret in the canteen.

£350k the lot.

Phube

Phube

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I recckon we should sign Matty Fryatt.

Him and that Hammond Lad (they got from Fulham) could be really useful!

Zingari

Zingari

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lets hope leicester and saints win and wednesday go down :scarf:

woops sorry , wrong scarf :@ has no-one changed them

lookwhaticando

lookwhaticando

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Judging by his success with a squad inherited from Peter "I gave Beckham the armband" Taylor, he could've proved quite handy for us this season.

Shoulda offered him that little birra extra dosh. :thumbup:

davieG

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Which players do you reckon could be useful to us if Leicester go down ?

We should nick that Shush! fella off of Leeds, I'm sure he's out of contract and Leicester wont need him in League 3.

Corky

Corky

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I don't think so, Warnock did a great job for us, then Robson came in and ruined our chances of achieving anything. Blackwell has done brilliantly, but I'd rather have Warnock to be honest. Blade through and through.

Fat Ron

Fat Ron

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Not many people likes Warnock...

Disputes

Warnock, who is qualified as a referee,[6] but has never officiated at the very top level, is renowned for his outbursts, which some see as controversial. He has had high profile disputes with many inside the game, some of which are detailed below.

[edit] Players

Stéphane Henchoz – Over an alleged spitting incident in the League Cup semi-final between Sheffield United and Liverpool.[7]

Peter Swan - A player for Warnock at Argyle and Bury, he called Warnock "a ****".[8]

Geoff Horsfield – Warnock told him he was unwanted after a permanent deal had been agreed to bring him to Sheffield United from West Bromwich Albion in a £1.2m deal, Warnock reportedly told him he didn't want him anywhere near Sheffield United and to go and train with West Brom.[9]

Stephen Hunt – After a recent match against Reading Warnock condemned the behaviour of the Royals' Stephen Hunt. He is said to have commented: "Hunt has proved on a few occasions that he's a clever type, and his challenge on Nick Montgomery earlier in the game wasn't clever either".[10]

Michael Johnson – In a 2005–06 Championship game with Derby County, Warnock reacted to a challenge by Johnson on Paul Ifill and was accused of playing a part in getting the opposition player sent off. This led to a face to face confrontation between the two and the Derby fans were incensed by Warnock's actions. Warnock asserted that the tackle was a bad one and that his reaction had made no difference to the outcome.[11]

[edit] Managers

Gérard Houllier – See Stéphane Henchoz above. Also involved an argument about United's allegedly physical approach against Liverpool in the League Cup Semi Final 1st leg, a match in which Liverpool had 5 men cautioned to United's one.[12]

Phil Thompson – See Stéphane Henchoz above.

Gary Megson – Following allegations that Warnock tried to void a 2002 match by reducing his team to six players. For details of this match, see Battle of Bramall Lane.

Stan Ternent – A longstanding feud. Most recently (2001) involved claims that Warnock sent an "emissary" to listen to tactical discussions.[13]

Mick Jones – A long-term assistant to Warnock, the pair did not speak for several years after Jones opted to remain at Plymouth Argyle as manager after Warnock was sacked, rather than follow him to Oldham Athletic.[14] They are now a managerial partnership again at Crystal Palace.[15]

Joe Kinnear – Kinnear remarked that Warnock was a 'prat' after a 1-1 draw between Sheffield United and Kinnear's Nottingham Forest in 2004-05. [16]

Kevin Blackwell – Warnock told the press that he wished he'd had the money to spend on players that Blackwell had in the season 2004-2005.[17] Blackwell had previously been Warnock's assistant at Sheffield United for several years and indeed Warnock helped Blackwell out for years, working with him at Scarborough, Huddersfield, Torquay, Plymouth et al. Another dispute occurred on 18 April 2006 in a match between Leeds United and Sheffield United at Bramall Lane when Warnock was sent from the touch-line after making a comment to Blackwell over a tackle by Gary Kelly on a Sheffield United player that Warnock deemed a bookable offence, and would have resulted in the Leeds player being sent off.[18]

Nigel Worthington – on 18 March 2006 Worthington apparently refused to shake hands with Warnock resulting in Warnock sticking two fingers up at him, an incident over which the FA charged Warnock with improper conduct.[19]

Wally Downes – On 20th January 2007, in a match against Reading, Keith Gillespie was sent off seconds after he came onto the pitch, for swiping Reading's Stephen Hunt in the face. After a protracted departure from the pitch, Warnock performed a stamping motion on the sideline directed towards referee Mark Halsey - referring to an earlier tackle made by Steve Sidwell which Warnock felt warranted a red card as well. Reading coach Wally Downes took exception to his actions, and pushed Warnock, who did not retaliate, causing a mass brawl on the sidelines. Both Warnock and Downes were sent to the stands as a result. Later Wally Downes admitted a misconduct charge to the FA,[20] was fined £2,000 and given a one-match touchline ban.

Gareth Southgate – Accused Southgate on Sky Sports News (shown 19 March 2007) of fielding a weaker starting XI against relegation-threatened Manchester City. Warnock claimed Southgate was "helping out" a friend, City manager Stuart Pearce.[21]

[edit] Referees

David Elleray – Warnock called him a "bald-headed bloke", whilst criticising his decision making ability.[22]

Graham Poll – Following what Warnock believed to be a mistake by Poll which led to Arsenal scoring in the FA Cup semi-final in 2003.[23]

In a Sky Sports documentary, Warnock agreed to be filmed in a personal documentary about his life on and off the pitch. During a match at home to Ipswich Town, Warnock was seen to swear at and verbally abuse one of the assistant referees (also telling the then Ipswich manager that the assistant 'had been his best player'), perhaps revealing why Warnock is seen as one of the more controversial football managers in England. [24]

Richard Beeby – Warnock heavily criticised Beeby in February 2008 after he played on for longer than the designated added time at the end of a match between Bristol City and Palace, which led to Bristol City equalising 55 seconds after full-time should have been blown, even claiming Beeby celebrated City's equaliser.[25] Warnock was subsequently charged with "improper conduct" by the FA.[26] In response, he "admitted the charge and requested a personal hearing".[27]

[edit] Fans

Nottingham Forest – Under Warnock's management, Notts County briefly rivalled the Reds (Nottingham Forest) in the early 1990s. Also, Warnock's subsequent team, Sheffield United, defeated Forest in a play-off semi-final in 2003.[28][29]

Leicester City – When Leicester restructured their debt after going into administration in 2002, they gained promotion to the Premiership, at the expense of Sheffield United, who had to make do with a play-off place. After United failed to gain promotion Warnock revealed his anger at the Leicester situation. Incensed that City could have got into such a state yet continued to compete at the top of the table, with no punishment, Warnock complained to the press, claiming United should have Leicester's place in the Premiership and the club should have been relegated or booted out the League. Any team now going into administration is automatically deducted 10 points, although even with this punishment Leicester would still have been two points clear of United.[30]

Sean Bean – In a recent tabloid serialisation of Warnock's autobiography, "Made In Sheffield", Warnock claims that minutes after the final game of the 2006-07 season Bean burst into his office, blaming Warnock for the team's relegation in a "foul-mouthed tirade" while Warnock's wife and daughter[31] were present. Bean denied this, calling Warnock "bitter" and "hypocritical", and arguing that he would never use such language in front of another man's wife and children.[32]

Bury – Warnock's reputation started poorly with Bury fans and finally was destroyed when he was seen applauding Bolton Wanderers' fourth goal in a cup tie. He had the accolade of receiving abuse from the whole stadium when Bury played away to Oldham Athletic where he was held in similar regard.[33]

[edit] Chairmen & directors

Warnock is also critical in the autobiography of several of the chairmen and directors he worked with during his career. The most notable were Derek Pavis (Notts County),[34] Dan McCauley (Plymouth Argyle),[35] Terry Fisher (Huddersfield Town),[36] and Ken Marsden (Gainsborough Trinity). However, Warnock insists in the same publication that he now gets on well with all of them.

He seems to have got on very well with former Bury FC chairman Terry Robinson, as he (Robinson) moved to Sheffield United as chairman not long after Warnock had taken the manager's job there.[33]

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