Ultra Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 As I have said in my post milan has made mistakes, everything he has done has gone wrong so far but he backs all his managers with funds which we have never had before. This club has had some awful chairman who have stripped the club to there bare bones and sold off every player we have produced.Ive been following Leicester for 30 years and ive always been jealous of similar sized clubs such as wolves and derby who have had good backing which weve never had. I know we spent after o neill but that was mainly the heskey money and what martin made not once have we had any backing. O'Neill himself spent millions on the likes of Sinclair, Gunnlaugsson and Eadie. Given we had a shoebox stadium (among the smallest at that time in the top flight), his transfer budget was reasonably generous. Unfortunately his successor demanded and was given the same leeway, even when it was obviously he didn't know what he was doing. Both of them in their time spent far more money than has been given by Mandaric to any of his managers. Cant understand people moaning because milan didnt pay much for the club. surel thats a good thing, and get real he is a good business man whatever you think of him. The question should be what can he do for the club, because theres no way he can do any less than our prevous chairman over the last 50 years! He already has. None of the previous chairmen took us below the top two divisions. The question is whether he can repair the damage he has helped to create.
Ultra Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 I can't believe it's taken this long for an established member of this forum to come out and say this, I've been saying that MM was bad for this club from day 1 (or maybe like day 30). All we've seen from Mandaric is poor appointments and over time he's turned this club into a laughing stock, whilst seeking to lay the blame wherever else he can - the old board, the managers, the players, THE FANS! MM is an absolute twat and as soon as more people realise this the sooner we can do something about it Some of us observed even before he took control that he was nothing more than a poor man's Ken Bates, and that the success at Pompey was due to Redknapp and not him. Unfortunately the pro-Mandaric bandwagon had built up too much steam by then. The local tabloid and its cynical, lying hacks have a lot to answer for..
l444ry Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 Doctors Say Milan Mandaric's Brain Is Missing. Doctors treating Milan Mandaric for a recent injury say they are puzzled by a recent discovery that his brain is missing. Dr. Emil Shaufhaussen of Manhattan General Hospital in New York said he had never seen anything like it before. "Mr. Mandaric was brought in for a recent knee injury and a routine CAT scan showed the apparent absence of the organ we call the brain. We initially thought it could be an equipment malfunction but that has proved to not be the case. We have done subsequent tests on the patient and there is apparently no brain there. I have personally never encountered this before in my years of practicing medicine. This man should not even be able to count to three." Shaufhaussen offered no possible explanation for the abnormality but said it should not interfere with his role as chairman of Leicester City. "Nah. He'll be fine, I think. he's pretty tough for an airhead," said Shaufthaussen. Mandaric was unavailable for comment but spokesman Alan Birchenall said, "Well, it does explain a lot. He's done some really stupid things lately and now we know why." When asked how the brain could have gone missing, the spokesman shrugged and said, "Who knows? Milan likes to tilt his head a lot. Maybe it rolled out."
Cheese Me Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 O'Neill himself spent millions on the likes of Sinclair, Gunnlaugsson and Eadie. Given we had a shoebox stadium (among the smallest at that time in the top flight), his transfer budget was reasonably generous.Unfortunately his successor demanded and was given the same leeway, even when it was obviously he didn't know what he was doing. Both of them in their time spent far more money than has been given by Mandaric to any of his managers. He already has. None of the previous chairmen took us below the top two divisions. The question is whether he can repair the damage he has helped to create. You're right but to be fair the difference then was that we were in the premiership with all the TV money, etc associated with it. We would never have had £3m for Eadie, £2m for Gunnlaugsson, etc if we weren't in the prem. Wherever the funding has come from you have to admit we've spent more on transfers and wages in the last 18 months than at any other time outisde the top flight. The problem is that the money has been misspent and / or that the manager has been unable to get the players to perform
davieG Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 You're right but to be fair the difference then was that we were in the premiership with all the TV money, etc associated with it. We would never have had £3m for Eadie, £2m for Gunnlaugsson, etc if we weren't in the prem.Wherever the funding has come from you have to admit we've spent more on transfers and wages in the last 18 months than at any other time outisde the top flight. The problem is that the money has been misspent and / or that the manager has been unable to get the players to perform And we don't know what the source for it is.
Daggers Posted 18 June 2008 Author Posted 18 June 2008 The problem is that the money has been misspent Thank you. Finally you agree that Mandaric has mismanaged the club. </thread>
Cheese Me Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 Thank you. Finally you agree that Mandaric has mismanaged the club.</thread> Not quite - I'm saying the recent managers have mismanaged the transfer budget. I do agree that MM has probably had a hand in this
lookwhaticando Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 Surely allowing a manager to mismanage is in effect mismanagement in its own right?
Daggers Posted 18 June 2008 Author Posted 18 June 2008 Surely allowing a manager to mismanage is in effect mismanagement in its own right? I can understand an argument that says one manager could pull the wool over his eyes - but a succession of DOF & managers have done it. And this ignores the fact that most players were signed by Mendacious directly and foisted onto his managing staff.
Daggers Posted 18 June 2008 Author Posted 18 June 2008 I am leaving no stone unturned in my quest to fill the managerial vacancy. So Milan, how come you haven't spoken to Grayson or Worthington then? It would appear that you are full of shit.
smokey Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 You have engineered a situation where we are considered too much of a risk to manage by shit managers. When decisions should have been made you faltered, when things should have been left alone you stuck your beak in and when things were going badly you made it worse.Maybe we would have got relegated had you not arrived, maybe we would not have had money to pack the squad out with crap players - but I feel we would still have had more chance of attracting a half decent manager now. At this moment in time the kudos of being able to work with the great Milan Mandaric is not drawing any quality applicants at all - you can't even offer them an obscene amount of money to take the job, they simply aren't interested in working with you. Not only that, but everyone is now aware that they figure so low down on your "list" because you have publicly courted others. The fact that you failed to see this situation as an inevitable consequence of your approach to man-management just confirms to me that you really do not have a clue. Had you had the sense to stick with Holloway, if only to bolster the general low opinion of you as an employer in the eyes of the manager community, then we would not be facing the situation we do now. One bad decision after the next after the next - it simply isn't good enough Milan, this is our club you are single-handedly ripping apart. Forget trying to find a new manager - go out and find a buyer who will take on the debts you leave the club with. I see no alternative, it's time for you to go. I agree! Just got back from holiday where i met Kevin Blackwell who was staying at the same hotel! He says he would never take the job at Leicester job if offered to him purley because of Milan Mandaric! Not that i would want Blackwell but its just interesting to see what Manager's thinks of Mandaric. He did say though that whoever gets the job at Leicester wont have their reputation ruined because whoever manages for Mandaric doesnt get anytime to do a good job, which then results in the sack!!!.........Which is the norm with MM and a fair point by Blackwell.
Thracian Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 I can't believe it's taken this long for an established member of this forum to come out and say this, I've been saying that MM was bad for this club from day 1 (or maybe like day 30). All we've seen from Mandaric is poor appointments and over time he's turned this club into a laughing stock, whilst seeking to lay the blame wherever else he can - the old board, the managers, the players, THE FANS! MM is an absolute twat and as soon as more people realise this the sooner we can do something about it Does that mean myself, Ultra and one or two more somehow became disestablished from the forum 18 months ago!
He's not bald Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 I agree!Just got back from holiday where i met Kevin Blackwell who was staying at the same hotel! He says he would never take the job at Leicester job if offered to him purley because of Milan Mandaric! Not that i would want Blackwell but its just interesting to see what Manager's thinks of Mandaric. He did say though that whoever gets the job at Leicester wont have their reputation ruined because whoever manages for Mandaric doesnt get anytime to do a good job, which then results in the sack!!!.........Which is the norm with MM and a fair point by Blackwell. Problem is whoever takes the job is going to be under pressure right from the start and not just pressure from Mandy,I want an instant return to the Championship however unrealistic and difficult that might be and will consider anything else an abject failure and I'm sure that's the case for the majority of fans. I expect that the new geezer will be well aware of this and either supremely confident in his own ability or have nothing to prove/lose...I really hope (but doubt) it'll be the former.
davieG Posted 18 June 2008 Posted 18 June 2008 Problem is whoever takes the job is going to be under pressure right from the start and not just pressure from Mandy,I want an instant return to the Championship however unrealistic and difficult that might be and will consider anything else an abject failure and I'm sure that's the case for the majority of fans.I expect that the new geezer will be well aware of this and either supremely confident in his own ability or have nothing to prove/lose...I really hope (but doubt) it'll be the former. But the fans expectations have been err, well fanned by the flames of Mandaric's rhetoric.
Daggers Posted 18 June 2008 Author Posted 18 June 2008 I can't believe it's taken this long for an established member of this forum to come out and say this, I've been saying that MM was bad for this club from day 1 (or maybe like day 30). All we've seen from Mandaric is poor appointments and over time he's turned this club into a laughing stock, whilst seeking to lay the blame wherever else he can - the old board, the managers, the players, THE FANS! MM is an absolute twat and as soon as more people realise this the sooner we can do something about it Hope. Misguided hope. No matter what decision he made I hoped the next one would be better. If he was ever going to chop Holloway then just before WBA was the time - as ever, he cocked up his timing. For me the final straw has been sacking Holloway after not sacking him at the end of the season. I have no faith in him to make the right decision in the future and I don't believe he has the wherewithall to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear we have become. He's not made one good decision since being here, at least not one that I can think of. This isn't knee-jerk - this is a culmination of rumination. No matter who he appoints, the only way we will get back up is by a massive change in luck and I think he used his share up at Pompey. It's time for Mandaric to go.
Chrysalis Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Some of us observed even before he took control that he was nothing more than a poor man's Ken Bates, and that the success at Pompey was due to Redknapp and not him.Unfortunately the pro-Mandaric bandwagon had built up too much steam by then. The local tabloid and its cynical, lying hacks have a lot to answer for.. So which way is it. success/failure blamed on chairman or the manager Its wrong to blame pompys success on redknapp and then say our failure is due to MM, its either the chairman or manager for both which?
Webbo Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 Dear Mr Mandaric. Today you have proven what many of have thought for a long time.Please fu(k off you useless (unt. Regards Webbo.
Zingari Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 Dear Mr Mandaric. Today you have proven what many of have thought for a long time.Please fu(k off you useless (unt. Regards Webbo. dear mr webbo i'd love to , but i can't as no-one will buy this bagoshite off me ( believe me i 've fookin well tried ) kind regards mandy ps please check out my ebay items as i need some cash ( i go by the name of captain cubbio )
Webbo Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 dear mr webbo i'd love to , but i can't as no-one will buy this bagoshite off me ( believe me i 've fookin well tried ) kind regards mandy ps please check out my ebay items as i need some cash ( i go by the name of captain cubbio ) That's the first time I've smiled today.
Daggers Posted 20 June 2008 Author Posted 20 June 2008 I think he's done alright with this appointment - it has been one of his better decisions. Pearson wants to be here and believes he can work with MM, there's not many who think that. How he now chooses to 'manage' his new employee is probably another matter. For our sake, I hope he stays out of the day to day team running/player purchasing and just allows Pearson to get on with his job. There's plenty to knock MM for but this appointment isn't one of them.
Thracian Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 Doctors Say Milan Mandaric's Brain Is Missing.Doctors treating Milan Mandaric for a recent injury say they are puzzled by a recent discovery that his brain is missing. Dr. Emil Shaufhaussen of Manhattan General Hospital in New York said he had never seen anything like it before. "Mr. Mandaric was brought in for a recent knee injury and a routine CAT scan showed the apparent absence of the organ we call the brain. We initially thought it could be an equipment malfunction but that has proved to not be the case. We have done subsequent tests on the patient and there is apparently no brain there. I have personally never encountered this before in my years of practicing medicine. This man should not even be able to count to three." Shaufhaussen offered no possible explanation for the abnormality but said it should not interfere with his role as chairman of Leicester City. "Nah. He'll be fine, I think. he's pretty tough for an airhead," said Shaufthaussen. Mandaric was unavailable for comment but spokesman Alan Birchenall said, "Well, it does explain a lot. He's done some really stupid things lately and now we know why." When asked how the brain could have gone missing, the spokesman shrugged and said, "Who knows? Milan likes to tilt his head a lot. Maybe it rolled out." What with Daggers' pictorial cartoons, DavieG's sinking ship (etc) and your own incomparable "newscast" humour there's still much to be said for the entertainment value on here.
Corky Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 I think he's done alright with this appointment - it has been one of his better decisions. Pearson wants to be here and believes he can work with MM, there's not many who think that. How he now chooses to 'manage' his new employee is probably another matter. For our sake, I hope he stays out of the day to day team running/player purchasing and just allows Pearson to get on with his job. There's plenty to knock MM for but this appointment isn't one of them. Spot on Daggers, are we to be priveliged in the near future with another photoshop spectacular?
Mickey O'Neil Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 I think he's done alright with this appointment - it has been one of his better decisions. Pearson wants to be here and believes he can work with MM, there's not many who think that. How he now chooses to 'manage' his new employee is probably another matter. For our sake, I hope he stays out of the day to day team running/player purchasing and just allows Pearson to get on with his job. There's plenty to knock MM for but this appointment isn't one of them. *clutches straws* Maybe Hoos (sp?) is the man to rein in Milan a little. Milan listened to him about Pearson, maybe Hoos is that voice of reason that we need 'upstairs'. BTW, didn't realise Hoos is a Yank!
Ultra Posted 20 June 2008 Posted 20 June 2008 I think he's done alright with this appointment - it has been one of his better decisions. Pearson wants to be here and believes he can work with MM, there's not many who think that. How he now chooses to 'manage' his new employee is probably another matter. For our sake, I hope he stays out of the day to day team running/player purchasing and just allows Pearson to get on with his job. There's plenty to knock MM for but this appointment isn't one of them. Time will tell on this. The only barometer of success for Pearson is whether we are still in this rancid, godforsaken league in a year's time. If we've been promoted, Pearson will be secure for some time to come and Mandaric may yet achieve redemption. The alternative does not bear thinking about. It could well involve the owner walking away while he still can, with no guarantee what may happen to the club.
Daggers Posted 20 June 2008 Author Posted 20 June 2008 Time will tell on this. The only barometer of success for Pearson is whether we are still in this rancid, godforsaken league in a year's time.If we've been promoted, Pearson will be secure for some time to come and Mandaric may yet achieve redemption. The alternative does not bear thinking about. It could well involve the owner walking away while he still can, with no guarantee what may happen to the club. That's it - you just keep looking on the bright side
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