20mj08 Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 porter will be amazing i think but on the left only i woiuld love toi get chelsea in the cup and for porter 2 break shev legs
filbertway Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Porter was steady and occasionally brilliant. My only worry is that Championship level was perfect for him - there'll be more beasts of defenders in this league, and while I'm sure he has the skill to take it past them, I'm not sure he won't get flattened in the process. In which case he would get a free kick. I don't understand why people seem to think League teams just fill there teams with strong retards that can't play football.
Jon the Hat Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Who plays will be up to the gaffer as usual, I am just looking forward to their being some exciting options. Gradel, Porter, Dyer and Adams will fight for their places. Bring it on.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Gradel and Porter are totally different. And even if Dyer and Gradel play on the wings there is no reason Porter shouldn't be in his best position of creative central midfield. Nor do I see any reason why we shouldn't follow the much more modern approach of being fluid across midfield with players interchanging. Get serious!! Do you really think Porter can play central midfield??? He for one isnt good enough and strong enough for left wing so saying centre mid is an absolute joke!!!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 In which case he would get a free kick.I don't understand why people seem to think League teams just fill there teams with strong retards that can't play football. :D
Jon the Hat Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Get serious!! Do you really think Porter can play central midfield??? He for one isnt good enough and strong enough for left wing so saying centre mid is an absolute joke!!! His time in the academy team was spent in the centre I believe, where he was very effective.
Webbo Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 I don't understand why people seem to think League teams just fill there teams with strong retards that can't play football. Paul Henderson might disagree.
Jimmy Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 His time in the academy team was spent in the centre I believe, where he was very effective. the physicality's of Academy football compared to League 1 are totally different
Daggers Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 I think this diagram explains everything: Average League player 0 | | | |......0 |......| |......| /\..../\ ......Supersonic Levi Porter It is the same principal as the Blackbird spy plane - only instead of flying over their radar he'll be screaming underneath it...just like John Travolta in that film where he stole a couple of nuclear bombs. Obviously, I am not suggesting that Levi has a couple of nuclear bombs though. Or am I?
Thracian Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 His time in the academy team was spent in the centre I believe, where he was very effective. He also finished up in central midfield for the reserves, had a bad first game and then ran the show. I never saw him get knocked around and some of those reserve teams, particularly the likes of Crystal Palace, were pretty big and bullish. As for Division One football Porter's already played over 30 Championship games and I don't remember him being knocked about much generally.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 He also finished up in central midfield for the reserves, had a bad first game and then ran the show. I never saw him get knocked around and some of those reserve teams, particularly the likes of Crystal Palace, were pretty big and bullish.As for Division One football Porter's already played over 30 Championship games and I don't remember him being knocked about much generally. He also didnt do much too!!
Foxhateram Posted 5 July 2008 Author Posted 5 July 2008 He also didnt do much too!! hve you even bothered to read the rest of this thread? we have already established that he had more effect on games then any winger we played last season. I didnt want this thread to end up as Porter lovers VS Porter Haters. I think everyone needs to have a fresh start this year, and a chance to prove themselves. i am looking forward to the competition between the 5 wingers we now have at the club. Gradel, Porter, Adams, Dyer, and maybe Hayes aswell. With all five of those battling for two positions im sure they will all up their game, and improve considerably. Assuming we learn how to use wingers properly. i cant remember thelast time we did that which worries me slightly.
Thracian Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 He also didnt do much too!! He didn't? In 2006/7 before last season's injury Porter topped Leicester City's list of assists with 7 a total which beat all last seasons best performers, Clemence (6), Sheehan (5) and Fryatt/Hume (3 each). As for his three goals from the left wing that would have put him joint fifth last season, behind front line strikers Hume (10), Howard (6) and Campbell (5) plus centre-back Kisnorbo with 4. Porter would have been level with Fryatt, Clemence, Stearman and McAuley. His combined score of 10 goals/assists would have placed him second last season behind only Hume (13) but ahead of Clemence (9) and Sheehan (7). That's a pretty commendable performance for a bloke in his first season of senior football. More so considering he only started 30 of the 50-odd matches.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 He didn't? In 2006/7 before last season's injury Porter topped Leicester City's list of assists with 7 a total which beat all last seasons best performers, Clemence (6), Sheehan (5) and Fryatt/Hume (3 each). As for his three goals from the left wing that would have put him joint fifth last season, behind front line strikers Hume (10), Howard (6) and Campbell (5) plus centre-back Kisnorbo with 4. Porter would have been level with Fryatt, Clemence, Stearman and McAuley. His combined score of 10 goals/assists would have placed him second last season behind only Hume (13) but ahead of Clemence (9) and Sheehan (7). That's a pretty commendable performance for a bloke in his first season of senior football. More so considering he only started 30 of the 50-odd matches. Oh i am sorry, didnt realise that makes him a great player!! Well we will see how many games he starts this season!! We still have that bet on remember that you think Dodds will score more than Fryatt next season!! Perhaps you want to have to have a little wager on how many games the so called outstanding porter will play seeing you are an expert!!
Simi Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 the physicality's of Academy football compared to League 1 are totally different True, but it doesn't mean that he can't be tried there. You can see what he's capable of from what he did to Chelsea.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 True, but it doesn't mean that he can't be tried there.You can see what he's capable of from what he did to Chelsea. mmmmm, i remember how well Cort played when he come on too that game!!!!....... Look where he is now!!
Simi Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 mmmmm, i remember how well Cort played when he come on too that game!!!!....... Look where he is now!! But Levi has done it in our first team before hasn't he? Plus, as has been said, he's had experience playing there for the academy.
Thracian Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Oh i am sorry, didnt realise that makes him a great player!!Well we will see how many games he starts this season!! We still have that bet on remember that you think Dodds will score more than Fryatt next season!! Perhaps you want to have to have a little wager on how many games the so called outstanding porter will play seeing you are an expert!! I don't remember calling him a great player. He doesn't have to be anywhere near great to get in our team. I simply stated the facts and said what is obvious - that his record is far better than any of his competitors have managed since they've been here. If you've any evidence for arguing to the contrary I'm all ears. As for the Dodds bet, I've made a note you needn't worry.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 I don't remember calling him a great player. He doesn't have to be anywhere near great to get in our team.I simply stated the facts and said what is obvious - that his record is far better than any of his competitors have managed since they've been here. If you've any evidence for arguing to the contrary I'm all ears. As for the Dodds bet, I've made a note you needn't worry. Dont worry about it Thracian, im not worried thats for sure!!! Ok you may not have said great player, but you are one that as backed him and said we have missed him! I hope i am proved wrong and he plays left wing all season and does well........but i very much doubt it!!
Daggers Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 Ok you may not have said great player, but you are one that as backed him and said we have missed him! I hope i am proved wrong and he plays left wing all season and does well........but i very much doubt it!! I've backed him too - but neither myself or Thracian want to see him on the left-wing...that's not his natural position.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 I've backed him too - but neither myself or Thracian want to see him on the left-wing...that's not his natural position. Fair enough!! But i also know he wont play centre midfield for us next season daggers and lets be honest.... you do too!!!
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 As for this Smokey/Thracian bet, I think that Dodds will score more than Fryatt. Fryatt has zero confidence.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 As for this Smokey/Thracian bet, I think that Dodds will score more than Fryatt.Fryatt has zero confidence. You have a right to your opinion, Thracian bottled the money bet, we settled for a couple pints!! Do you fancy buying me a couple too??? I think Fryatt will come good, he was looking good last pre-season but was over looked by Allen for deep freeze, he never really got a look in after that other than games here and there and played out of position. I agree he wasnt that good last year but who was? I think a fit Matty Fryatt in League One will get you a lot of goals (if given the chance) and i think he and DJ could be a great partneship! I have nothing against Louis Dodds and i think a move to Lincoln will do him good but he wont get the same amount of goals per game ratio as Fryatt this season (whoever he plays for)!!!
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 You have a right to your opinion, Thracian bottled the money bet, we settled for a couple pints!! Do you fancy buying me a couple too???I think Fryatt will come good, he was looking good last pre-season but was over looked by Allen for deep freeze, he never really got a look in after that other than games here and there and played out of position. I agree he wasnt that good last year but who was? I think a fit Matty Fryatt in League One will get you a lot of goals (if given the chance) and i think he and DJ could be a great partneship! I have nothing against Louis Dodds and i think a move to Lincoln will do him good but he wont get the same amount of goals per game ratio as Fryatt this season (whoever he plays for)!!! I've no doubt that Fryatt can score in this division. But it's a question of confidence. Will Pearson merely look at his record, and not give him any chance in pre-season? And how long will it take him to get fit? Fryatt's an age old arguement, and one that I don't think will ever be fully settled.
smokey Posted 5 July 2008 Posted 5 July 2008 I've no doubt that Fryatt can score in this division. But it's a question of confidence. Will Pearson merely look at his record, and not give him any chance in pre-season? And how long will it take him to get fit?Fryatt's an age old arguement, and one that I don't think will ever be fully settled. You may be right!! I hope pearson gives him a chance as i think he will be a very clever player at this level, a bit slow for a higher level but not this! Again i think Howard and DJ were crap last year but surely between the 3 plus hopefully a bit of help from Chambers and Sapleton we should get goals galore this year!!
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