Darkzzz_ Posted 8 September 2008 Posted 8 September 2008 Exactly, and he was up for a fight against Hatton. What a wally. Khan may hit hard but his defence has never been solid, thats the first fight Khan has fought where his opponent can pack a punch and look whats happend. Fighting Hatton could be a big mistake, be good financially but his career after could take a big blow. Hatton would dismantle him....
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 I honestly don't see where this cockey thing comes from, in regards tot the way he speaks to the Media anyway. For a boxer, he's quite down to earth, all boxers have to super confident bordering on the arrogant and he's not as bad as most. He's driving offences I admit can't really be excused.
James. Posted 9 September 2008 Author Posted 9 September 2008 I honestly don't see where this cockey thing comes from, in regards tot the way he speaks to the Media anyway. For a boxer, he's quite down to earth, all boxes have to super confident bordering on the arrogant and he's not as bad as most.He's driving offences I admit can't really be excused. I've been thinking this as well. He's getting a lot of unwarranted abuse in this thread. When have you ever seen a boxer that wasn't cocky in pre fight interviews? They are few and far between. It's part of the build up, you need that attitude to a certain extent. Any perceived mental weakness will be exploited in the fight. Fair enough he was battered by Prescott and it's clear there's some serious issues with his chin but does that warrant the abuse? No. Amir Khan by all accounts is an excellent role model for young people, he won silver in the Olympics and from what I've read he does a lot for his local community and charity on a wider scale. Maybe that's his downfall, that he's lacked the total commitment required to progress on the professional stage but it still grates with me when I see people taking enjoyment out of knocking him.
Alexikokopops Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 I've been thinking this as well. He's getting a lot of unwarranted abuse in this thread. When have you ever seen a boxer that wasn't cocky in pre fight interviews? They are few and far between. It's part of the build up, you need that attitude to a certain extent. Any perceived mental weakness will be exploited in the fight.Fair enough he was battered by Prescott and it's clear there's some serious issues with his chin but does that warrant the abuse? No. Amir Khan by all accounts is an excellent role model for young people, he won silver in the Olympics and from what I've read he does a lot for his local community and charity on a wider scale. Maybe that's his downfall, that he's lacked the total commitment required to progress on the professional stage but it still grates with me when I see people taking enjoyment out of knocking him. He's not the best. Chek out Ultra's post 7 above yours
Darkzzz_ Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 I can see what you are saying, all boxers do have that arrogance about them, they have to really. But you have to be able to walk the walk and talk the talk in this sport. Khan can't take big hits and it is something he needs to work on and very quickly, if he wants to be the best. I wouldn't say he was a role model though, He done well at the 2004 Olympic games, then someone waved a few notes in his face and he was gone. (Although maybe I would have as well) I genuinely hope he bounces back, but he really needs to sort his defence out, good luck to him.
James. Posted 9 September 2008 Author Posted 9 September 2008 He's not the best. Chek out Ultra's post 7 above yours Not the best no and there's no excuse for those speeding offences (although I'm sure Thracian could come up with a few). But a young person driving fast is not exactly uncommon and when I look at the other things he gets involved in I really don't see why so much abuse is necessary. People took pleasure out of him getting battered... I didn't. The coach and promoter made a massive mistake and the damage to his confidence is going to take a long time to repair. I think they believed his hype more than Khan himself. He probably won't make it on the world stage but having a go at him for being arrogant and cocky is petty and stupid.
Dr The Singh Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 I've been thinking this as well. He's getting a lot of unwarranted abuse in this thread. When have you ever seen a boxer that wasn't cocky in pre fight interviews? They are few and far between. It's part of the build up, you need that attitude to a certain extent. Any perceived mental weakness will be exploited in the fight.Fair enough he was battered by Prescott and it's clear there's some serious issues with his chin but does that warrant the abuse? No. Amir Khan by all accounts is an excellent role model for young people, he won silver in the Olympics and from what I've read he does a lot for his local community and charity on a wider scale. Maybe that's his downfall, that he's lacked the total commitment required to progress on the professional stage but it still grates with me when I see people taking enjoyment out of knocking him. My comments were not made because of his pre match interviews but because of the hype himself and his camp have set around him. Pre match is all about selling the fight but the voices from him and his camp put him on such a high pedastool without any justification and he is now subsequently found out!! I think his post match comments after taking a battering sums up how much hype and bull surrounds him, "I'm a world beater...'WHERE, WHEN,.....??????? It's not neccessarily his fault, his camp and the people around him and the media have hyped him so much, so much Amir Khan was thinking he could be world champoin before he was 22 without actually fighting anybody really decent until you could say now!!!
James. Posted 9 September 2008 Author Posted 9 September 2008 It's not neccessarily his fault, his camp and the people around him and the media have hyped him so much, so much Amir Khan was thinking he could be world champoin before he was 22 without actually fighting anybody really decent until you could say now!!! That bit in bold is exactly my point. Does he therefore deserve all the abuse? People should get off his back and look at the way he has been coached and promoted. Also a lot of the public believed the hype and then as such had unreasonable expectations of him...
Alexikokopops Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 Not the best no and there's no excuse for those speeding offences (although I'm sure Thracian could come up with a few).But a young person driving fast is not exactly uncommon and when I look at the other things he gets involved in I really don't see why so much abuse is necessary. People took pleasure out of him getting battered... I didn't. The coach and promoter made a massive mistake and the damage to his confidence is going to take a long time to repair. I think they believed his hype more than Khan himself. He probably won't make it on the world stage but having a go at him for being arrogant and cocky is petty and stupid. But young people overtaking traffic at 47 in a 30 zone, running a red light and hitting a pedestrian causing him to break his leg and lose his job is pretty uncommon.
Dr The Singh Posted 9 September 2008 Posted 9 September 2008 That bit in bold is exactly my point. Does he therefore deserve all the abuse?People should get off his back and look at the way he has been coached and promoted. Also a lot of the public believed the hype and then as such had unreasonable expectations of him... Personally I think he should wake up and smell the gravy, it's one thing being lead down the wrong path but to carry on going on it, knowing something's not right is another!! He needs to be realistic and tackle his demons and his career henceforth!!!
James. Posted 9 September 2008 Author Posted 9 September 2008 But young people overtaking traffic at 47 in a 30 zone, running a red light and hitting a pedestrian causing him to break his leg and lose his job is pretty uncommon. Ok it was a poorly worded sentence. My point still stands though. I think there's a problem in this country with the expectations and hype surrounding our sportsmen and women. This hype is not engineered by them, it is engineered by their promoters and the media who all have ££££ flashing in their eyes. Not only that but mistakes (like the one Amir Khan made on the road) are used against him when something goes wrong. I'm not making excuses for him but I think if we spent more time supporting our sports people as opposed to taking enjoyment out of seeing them beaten then maybe we'd have a few more world champions instead of nearly men.
Ultra Posted 20 September 2008 Posted 20 September 2008 Khan sacks trainer Rubio Looks like he's been made a scapegoat..
Manwell Pablo Posted 21 September 2008 Posted 21 September 2008 Khan sacks trainer RubioLooks like he's been made a scapegoat.. Funny. Not his fault the lad has a glass jaw.
sdb Posted 21 September 2008 Posted 21 September 2008 can i be really stupid and ask what exactly the term 'glass jaw' emplies?! i've heard it a feew time regarding khan. ta!
Matt Posted 21 September 2008 Posted 21 September 2008 ricky hatton has sacked his trainer too Not sacked, His trainer has retired has he not? Ricky Hatton is now being trained by Floyd Mayweather Senior. That how i've understood it, Unless he has sacked Floyd Mayweather Senior already?!
Zingari Posted 21 September 2008 Posted 21 September 2008 Not sacked, His trainer has retired has he not?Ricky Hatton is now being trained by Floyd Mayweather Senior. That how i've understood it, Unless he has sacked Floyd Mayweather Senior already?! yes i think you're correct , it was in the newspaper today that R H was pretty mean and disrespectful about him in a speech though
Jimmy Posted 21 September 2008 Posted 21 September 2008 can i be really stupid and ask what exactly the term 'glass jaw' emplies?! i've heard it a feew time regarding khan. ta! that he can't take a proper punch so when he does get hit he gets knocked out ...
mancunianfox Posted 22 September 2008 Posted 22 September 2008 I'm sorry but expecting Khan to beat an unknown boxer ranked 110th in the world is not an unreasonable expectation, especially when Frank Warren and Sky Sports are charging £15 to watch the fight. Its not like he was fighting a Pacquiao or a Campbell...fighters he has claimed he can beat despite not having ever fought a decent fighter. He fought a guy ranked 110th and got rocked by a jab 10 seconds into the fight before getting put on the floor twice within a minute. Its not that people have unreasonable expectations...is that he has been exposed as a fraud in such a devastating fashion. I actually feel sorry for Rubio having been made a scapegoat because at the end of the day Khan ignored whatever he had been told and once again kept a low defence with his feet planted firmly to the floor. Khan has been there for the taking long before Rubio showed up as his fights with Gomez and Limond had demonstrated. I just hope that he can hire someone who can teach him to protect his chin and use his speed to be an effective counter-puncher because its the only style that is going to work for him with his limitations.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 September 2008 Posted 22 September 2008 I'm sorry but expecting Khan to beat an unknown boxer ranked 110th in the world is not an unreasonable expectation, especially when Frank Warren and Sky Sports are charging £15 to watch the fight. Its not like he was fighting a Pacquiao or a Campbell...fighters he has claimed he can beat despite not having ever fought a decent fighter. He fought a guy ranked 110th and got rocked by a jab 10 seconds into the fight before getting put on the floor twice within a minute. Its not that people have unreasonable expectations...is that he has been exposed as a fraud in such a devastating fashion. I actually feel sorry for Rubio having been made a scapegoat because at the end of the day Khan ignored whatever he had been told and once again kept a low defence with his feet planted firmly to the floor. Khan has been there for the taking long before Rubio showed up as his fights with Gomez and Limond had demonstrated. I just hope that he can hire someone who can teach him to protect his chin and use his speed to be an effective counter-puncher because its the only style that is going to work for him with his limitations. Agreed, as i've stated before, Khan needs to get his head out of his own arse and smell the fresh air and stop believing his own hype!! This shows he still believes it wasn't his own fault he got clapped, what a shame!!!
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