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HeadHoncho

Our central defense was the MAIN reason we were relegated. Their distribution from the back was so poor that we hardly ever had any decent attacking moves, the hoofed clearances just kept coming back time and time again!

With Kisnorbo and (to a lesser extent) Mattock restored it is no coincidence that we have slipped back into our old ways. It is pointless to blame Hobbs, he has filled in at fullback before and been more than competent, defensively at least, but last night our whole back 4 was a mess, even Tunchev looked lost at times. Get Morrison and Powell back in and FFS play midfielders not fullbacks in midfield!

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I think a lot of these posts were written in the heat of the moment, just after the match when the frustration was still raw. Now people have calmed down they may start to think clearly again.

Posted

Still angry this morning ..

When I look at the table im annoyed to see us 6th :(

However im pretty sure had we already of played our game in hand *and won* people would not be AS angry ..

:dunno:

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When we was winning, Pearson was the best thing since O'Neill, now he should be sacked. Some people need to grow up, as if at the end of the season we're in the championship, Pearson will be a god to you all.

The players lost the game last night, not NP. Okay, so maybe he could've shuffled it around a bit last night, but he didn't. He's the manager, the one with the coaching badges, the one that gets paid to make the decisions, and of course everyone has a right to their own opinion, but sacking Pearson is not the way to go.

We need to steady the ship, sacking Pearson will only sink it even more than it already has done.

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HeadHoncho

Our central defense was the MAIN reason we were relegated. Their distribution from the back was so poor that we hardly ever had any decent attacking moves, the hoofed clearances just kept coming back time and time again!

With Kisnorbo and (to a lesser extent) Mattock restored it is no coincidence that we have slipped back into our old ways. It is pointless to blame Hobbs, he has filled in at fullback before and been more than competent, defensively at least, but last night our whole back 4 was a mess, even Tunchev looked lost at times. Get Morrison and Powell back in and FFS play midfielders not fullbacks in midfield!

The MAIN reason we were relegated was the fact that we didn't score enough goals. I'd also like to remind you that Powell played last night. :frusty:

I've got faith in Pearson putting it right. Over the last few seasons we've been too quick to get rid of our managers, let's not make the same mistake again. I can't even believe people are talking about this, it's ridiculous.

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Getting rid of Pearson would be 100% the wrong thing to do, we have hit a bad patch, 3 points out of a possible 12 is no where near good enough, against average sides (except Oldham) the players need to pull their finger out.

Pearson has been unlucky with injuries etc, & maybe thought he had a bigger squad than he actually has, he is doing the best with what he has, maybe a few loan signings wouldn't be such a bad idea.

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The Pearson out brigage must be a minority. I can only recall 1 or 2 in this thread. The fact that even one or two think that is quite alarming and very very fickle...should bash their bleeding heads together, get some sense of em! :whistle:

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Colbo

I can't get to as many games as I would like but as I am back in the UK (north London) for a while I have been doing better this year.

Our early season form showed great promise, a much more attacking attitude than last season plus a solid defense made me think we would do well this year.

BUT we have failed to build on that and, in the last few games, become stale and rigid! And now we are now repeating the mistakes of last season, players out of position, defending too deep, hoofball from the back.

It is not all the players fault by any means, they were pretty good early season, but the inability to build on a good start and to adapt tactics and formations as more of the opposition clubs started to 'work us out' that is inexcusable.

just to make it clear, I'm certainly not calling for NP's head, far from it - the thing I don't understand and this was most obvious to me with Ollie at the helm last season, is the over-reliance on the long-ball game, to Howard, to get flick-ons. I honestly thought that NP would play differently to this. If the argument is that we don't have the players to play nice football, on the floor, through the middle then we MUST replace Howard with a better target man - one that can flick-on to our players, is more mobile and can score more goals. Howard's game to goal ratio is appalling, fact. This is not to lay the blame solely at the feet (or the head) of the big man, I just don't think he is good enough, having seen most games homes and away this year, if we are going to persist with long-ball tactics. This situation, for me, must be addressed in the transfer window.

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Overreaction is an understatement.

Apparently, and in all seriousness, we should sack Nigel Pearson and bring in Ian Dowie, because he will be guaranteed to get results and will take us out of this league.

We should also send Jack Hobbs back to Liverpool, because he's really shit and should be nowhere near our first team. Even though Liverpool hold him in high regard.

Steve Howard is woeful and doesn't benefit Fryatt in any way whatsoever. He should be dropped in favour of somebody who will compliment Fryatt.

And lastly, a little more tongue in cheek, we should make ourselves safe, be content with it, and start building for next season.

Seriously. I could not believe it.

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SamL

And the main reason we scored so few goals was THE COMPLETE LACK of any buildup play coming from the back. Stringing 5, often 6 players across the 18 yd line then hoofing the ball to isolated front men is NOT good defending.

Playing like that simply returns the ball to the opposition, and it is very difficult to score when you do not have the ball.

Powell was decent enough last night but was hardly a force going forward, like the rest he was far too deep. The point about Kisnorbo and Mattock was the more general one that with their return we seem we seem to be sliding back into our old ways.

That way lies madness, and the 4th Division!

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Colbo

Your point about NP persisting with the long ball is well made, but just replacing Howard with another target is not the answer.

We have to get away from this neanderthal style of play that involves hitting the "big man" and playing for the flick ons. We have a fair number of players who are pacy and good on the ground, why do we persist with putting the ball in the air?

Play Fryatt as the front man and play the ball INTO FEET, any 3 of Gradel, Dyer, Adams, Porter, Dickov and even DJ coming at the defense from deeper positions. Save the high ball for corners!

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Lisa,

I have not lived in Leicester for many a year so I know little about what goes on at the club off the pitch.

I would have thought that the 2 (or is it 3) massive regime changes that have occurred in recent years would have brought in new people at virtually all levels of club but if this is not the case then I would love to know who the corrosive influence is.

Personally I feel the problems lie closer to the pitch. Pearson appears to be a decent manager with some experience but I am not sure that he has had to handle the level of expectation that is being heaped upon him at this time.

From the chairman to the fans the expectation is huge, this affects the manager in many ways, the most obvious being the inability to change thing in a positive manner for fear of the changes not working and the tendency to try and 'play safe' by taking the conservative and often defensive action.

No, we have a squad of players capable of taking this league apart, we just need to find a way to let them do it!

We also had a squad capable of doing something last season, and it never happened. As I said, I don't know what is going on, but all this chopping and changing has done nothing constructive in the long term. I think it's time for some consistency. Calling for the manager's head at this point in time is a knee jerk reaction, let's hope it's just a blip.

2) Moaning about international breaks

I back Nigel 100% on this issue. The players that would have been missing for the international breaks are Tunchev, Adams and King. Whilst I'm fairly happy with Hobbs and Morisson, Tunchev is a class apart. We currently only have one fit centre midfielder in the squad (and yes I do accept that previously Wesolowski and Oakley have been available but the point remians that injuries can happen at the most inconvenient of times), why would we want to play without him? What happens if Gradel picks up a knock when Adams is away with Wales? Apparantly we have one of the biggest squads in the league (personally I don't see that, but then we do have a lot of injuries at the minute), but why make problems for yourself?

We'll have to disagree on this issue then. Yes, Tunchev is quality, but this club is bigger than one player, and if we are unable to cope without him, then I hope he doesn't get injured or suspended!! Back in the day, when players went off on international duty, it was a chance to give someone else a run out. That cannot be a bad thing, especially if that international was to return injured. This is all part and parcel of football regardless of internationals, and I find it sad that managers aren't expected to use their brains any more by having to adapt in changing situations.

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I could be wrong and to be honest i can't be fooked to read all of the recent threads, but has anybody actually called for his head?

Raj and two schoolchildren.

I think that's it - but then no one would be able to moan about people moaning if that fact came to light so 'shhhhhh!', don't let on to anyone.

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Raj and two schoolchildren.

I think that's it - but then no one would be able to moan about people moaning if that fact came to light so 'shhhhhh!', don't let on to anyone.

That was going to be my next point.

Any excuse for a 'Pearson in' thread, even with ficticious opposition...

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Lisa

As I pointed out, I did not see that many games last season but at NO POINT did I get the impression that the squad was capable of doing something'.

Mid table was the best I could hope for and even that was WAY beyond us in the end.

As for replacing NP, no way. Just tell him to be a bit more adventurous and get on with it!

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Lisa

As I pointed out, I did not see that many games last season but at NO POINT did I get the impression that the squad was capable of doing something'.

Mid table was the best I could hope for and even that was WAY beyond us in the end.

As for replacing NP, no way. Just tell him to be a bit more adventurous and get on with it!

The CCC is not that strong a league, as evidenced by some of the so-called "freak" results. Being at The Hawthorns, and seen what we were capable of doing made our relegation even worse, if you ask me. Still, it's all about opinions, and we're not all going to agree, are we.

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RANT!

1. Anyone who will try to justify Sacking NP is an idiot, yes an Idiot! He hay have some faults but there is simply no justification for such knee jerk reactions to a few bad results.

2. LCFC fans have the right to voice their opinions as they are the life blood of the club, but get behind the ****ers and lets see what we get in return.

3. The players STILL do not have the mentallity of a winning side. They need to be more combatative and win the ball, stick their foot in to the 50/50 challenges and win the fooking ball!!!!!! We are too soft certainly in midfield even with Oakleys improved performances. King should be dropped as the job he is currently being asked to do is not his forte. King is a player who plays delightful football some of the time, we need a destructive midfielder who gets stuck in not a pansy with fancy touches once in a blue moon in the mould of Gareth Williams.

4. I have said it too many times on here for anyone to take any more note, but I am correct when I say that a player who has a driven personallity needs to be instilled as captain to dish out a hammering or to to underperforming individuals when on the pitch. A LEADER Please!!!!!!!

5. Leicester MUST beat these poor sides if they are to get automatic promotion. The only half decent team we have played this season was Oldham IMO. People will say I think LCFC are Billy Big Balls but look who these teams are FFS! We as a club have to get on track mentally and be an efficent unit to win football matches, this requires a few well organised players playing in a committed manner, spice in some of the tallen we have and we have a team of Champions in Division 3.

6. Lastly there are some areas of the side which are frightenly thin! Goalkeepers, Right Back, Centre Midfield, Strikers are all under manned and if I may say so lack sufficent quality in depth. Gilbert is fine but who is replacing him now? It's not good enough! Centre Mid needs a hard man to win it and give it, we need Goals! look at our defensive record compared with the scoring record and not alot has changed from last year :angry:

The problems we have are easily fixable, especially the attitude! Get it done Nigel we believe in you! Blue Army! :thumbup:

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RANT!

1. Anyone who will try to justify Sacking NP is an idiot, yes an Idiot! He hay have some faults but there is simply no justification for such knee jerk reactions to a few bad results.

2. LCFC fans have the right to voice their opinions as they are the life blood of the club, but get behind the ****ers and lets see what we get in return.

3. The players STILL do not have the mentallity of a winning side. They need to be more combatative and win the ball, stick their foot in to the 50/50 challenges and win the fooking ball!!!!!! We are too soft certainly in midfield even with Oakleys improved performances. King should be dropped as the job he is currently being asked to do is not his forte. King is a player who plays delightful football some of the time, we need a destructive midfielder who gets stuck in not a pansy with fancy touches once in a blue moon in the mould of Gareth Williams.

4. I have said it too many times on here for anyone to take any more note, but I am correct when I say that a player who has a driven personallity needs to be instilled as captain to dish out a hammering or to to underperforming individuals when on the pitch. A LEADER Please!!!!!!!

5. Leicester MUST beat these poor sides if they are to get automatic promotion. The only half decent team we have played this season was Oldham IMO. People will say I think LCFC are Billy Big Balls but look who these teams are FFS! We as a club have to get on track mentally and be an efficent unit to win football matches, this requires a few well organised players playing in a committed manner, spice in some of the tallen we have and we have a team of Champions in Division 3.

6. Lastly there are some areas of the side which are frightenly thin! Goalkeepers, Right Back, Centre Midfield, Strikers are all under manned and if I may say so lack sufficent quality in depth. Gilbert is fine but who is replacing him now? It's not good enough! Centre Mid needs a hard man to win it and give it, we need Goals! look at our defensive record compared with the scoring record and not alot has changed from last year :angry:

The problems we have are easily fixable, especially the attitude! Get it done Nigel we believe in you! Blue Army! :thumbup:

Agreed :thumbup:

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..it could be worse, spare a thought for me, i've just inadvertantly listened to 'never miss a beat' by the kaiser cheifs... :cry:

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..it could be worse, spare a thought for me, i've just inadvertantly listened to 'never miss a beat' by the kaiser cheifs... :cry:

Sorry, but I quite like it. :ph34r:

Although it reminds me of something else, and I can't think what the hell it is!!

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Lisa

Freak results were just that, freak.

At no point did we string together a sequence of decent games, let alone decent results. Sometimes I think a little perspective is needed especially from the diehards who see pretty much every game.

We have been mediocre for a while now, the last 6 games have seen 2 lucky wins, 3 poor draws and last nights 'performance'. The last 4 games have been relegation standard!

Pearson appears to be competent and we have some decent coaches, (look at our young players) so why are we playing such a rigid formation? Why are we still playing long balls to the big man? Why are we playing a fullback in center midfield? Why are our wingers looking less potent with every passing game? Why, why why?

So far I have seen no attempt to even address these issues and until we do, we will not move forward!

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Lisa

Freak results were just that, freak.

At no point did we string together a sequence of decent games, let alone decent results. Sometimes I think a little perspective is needed especially from the diehards who see pretty much every game.

We have been mediocre for a while now, the last 6 games have seen 2 lucky wins, 3 poor draws and last nights 'performance'. The last 4 games have been relegation standard!

Pearson appears to be competent and we have some decent coaches, (look at our young players) so why are we playing such a rigid formation? Why are we still playing long balls to the big man? Why are we playing a fullback in center midfield? Why are our wingers looking less potent with every passing game? Why, why why?

So far I have seen no attempt to even address these issues and until we do, we will not move forward!

:unsure:

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