So much for looking after our people....

[Thracian]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090519/tuk-s...6s-6323e80.html

[Monk]

So, the increase in cases is because they are testing more people? Can't be a bad thing though it sounds pretty shocking how widespread it really is.

[Dr The Singh]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090519/tuk-s...6s-6323e80.html

DO you think this is because more teens etc are having sex, with more partners?? Or that STI clinics and the awareness of STI's has lead for these people to go and get more routinely checked????

[Alexikokopops]

So, the increase in cases is because they are testing more people? Can't be a bad thing though it sounds pretty shocking how widespread it really is.

DO you think this is because more teens etc are having sex, with more partners?? Or that STI clinics and the awareness of STI's has lead for these people to go and get more routinely checked????

I love it when people think about stats

[Guest]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090519/tuk-s...6s-6323e80.html

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but are you blaming the government for this?

[Dr The Singh]

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but are you blaming the government for this?

Immigrants???

[Guest]

Immigrants???

I blame Peter Andrex and Katie Price. If they could have kept their marriage going, none of this would have happened.

[Dr The Singh]

I blame Peter Andrex and Katie Price. If they could have kept their marriage going, none of this would have happened.

Amazingly those two have been on the front pages for the last 2 weeks and on the news, it just shows how messed up general society is, I wonder if Gordon Brown will jump on the bandwagon and bring it up in the house of commons???

[Finnegan]

It's all about them Africans and their monkey AIDS this is.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Further proof, if any were required, of the need for the wholesale deportation of these so called 'young people', or at the very least their internment in forced labour camps prior to their eventual liquidation

[davieG]

Coincidently I'd just posted this in the joke forum in response to a Smuts post.

This is an old Grenadier Guards song - shows nothing much changes in the world other than there's more people doing it - whatever it is!

Some die of masturbation,

And some of drinking beer.

Some die of constipation.

And some of diarrhoea.

But of all diseases in this world.

There's none that can compare.

With the drip, drip, drip,

Of the syphilis ****,

Or the smell of gonorrhoea.

[Jon the Hat]

I blame the government. Oh yes. If they would just stop blooding counting stuff and releasing the numbers then the media would have to find things out for themselves.

[Zingari]

"The Government has slashed public health spending over recent years. This short-sightedness is putting a whole generation at risk of a sexual health crisis."

i wonder what caused them to go short sighted

[Thracian]

DO you think this is because more teens etc are having sex, with more partners?? Or that STI clinics and the awareness of STI's has lead for these people to go and get more routinely checked????

I'm quite sure it's a bit of both.

But the increase is dramatic and put alongside the likelihood that those are dramatically understated Government figures in that they represent only those who have been checked rather than the likely numbers who won't have been checked for various reasons, and I think it fair to say that the figures make serious but entirely predictable reading.

Put alongside so many other things they serve again to reflect the entirely misguided approach of this government to serving our country and its people's welfare.

Such issues as family breakdown, the effective encouragement of underage sex, the dramatic influx of people from all over the world which has contributed to a far greater range of sometimes incurable STI's now being seen, the seemingly increasing and irresponsible gang culture, the hugely increased and highly impersonal promotion of the sex industry, the jobs crisis which has increased the feeling of hopelessness and indifference among not just individuals but whole communities and left so many of them twiddling their thumbs in idleness and only too eager to seek other comforts whatever the outcome...it's all - with many other things - a connected downward spiral and one that needs to be arrested.

[lou]

Whos "our People" and who isnt?

[Thracian]

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, but are you blaming the government for this?

Government policies have made a considerable contribution - and doubtless far more than any of its supporters would willingly admit.

And, whether you like it or not, the huge increase in different STI's seen in this country since it's open-all-hours immigration policies revved into full swing, has clearly been a consequence of that policy.

But it isn't the only factor. I've mentioned a few other factors in another post and am quite sure there are enough others to fill a book.

Long ago as it is I think the liberalising sexual revolution of the 60s had some effect too but, on its own, that was never going to lead to the hugely wide-ranging and complex problems of today.

Bottom line is I'm not particularly bothered about who's fault, or combination of faults, it is either. Except that it would be nice to think we might learn from what I believe has been a succession of mistakes.

What I'm concrned about is changing the trend for the better and that will only come about if, as a nation, we start to have some collective values and start to show greater respect for our bodies. Which probably means improving the general standard of parenting and education from day one.

[Dr The Singh]

Government policies have made a considerable contribution - and doubtless far more than any of its supporters would willingly admit.

And, whether you like it or not, the huge increase in different STI's seen in this country since it's open-all-hours immigration policies revved into full swing, has clearly been a consequence of that policy.

But it isn't the only factor. I've mentioned a few other factors in another post and am quite sure there are enough others to fill a book.

Long ago as it is I think the liberalising sexual revolution of the 60s had some effect too but, on its own, that was never going to lead to the hugely wide-ranging and complex problems of today.

Bottom line is I'm not particularly bothered about who's fault, or combination of faults, it is either. Except that it would be nice to think we might learn from what I believe has been a succession of mistakes.

What I'm concrned about is changing the trend for the better and that will only come about if, as a nation, we start to have some collective values and start to show greater respect for our bodies. Which probably means improving the general standard of parenting and education from day one.

You say that there's a liberal attitude towards sex, but most of the people on this forum are virgins, or lack sexual activity!! So Thrac, if you can tell me and the rest of the forum, where there are people with liberal attitudes towards sex, it would be much appreciated, personally I just want to be a statistic!!!

[skinnydipper]

Superb idea. Doubtless it will run into all sorts of hurdles once the club gets involved but if it does, somehow, get the green light then count me in. I shall turn a deaf ear to shouts of "you fat bastard

Government policies have made a considerable contribution - and doubtless far more than any of its supporters would willingly admit.

And, whether you like it or not, the huge increase in different STI's seen in this country since it's open-all-hours immigration policies revved into full swing, has clearly been a consequence of that policy.

But it isn't the only factor. I've mentioned a few other factors in another post and am quite sure there are enough others to fill a book.

Long ago as it is I think the liberalising sexual revolution of the 60s had some effect too but, on its own, that was never going to lead to the hugely wide-ranging and complex problems of today.

Bottom line is I'm not particularly bothered about who's fault, or combination of faults, it is either. Except that it would be nice to think we might learn from what I believe has been a succession of mistakes.

What I'm concrned about is changing the trend for the better and that will only come about if, as a nation, we start to have some collective values and start to show greater respect for our bodies. Which probably means improving the general standard of parenting and education from day one.

" COUGH "

[Koke]

It's all about them Africans and their monkey AIDS this is.

I was born here, blud.

[davieG]

I'm quite sure it's a bit of both.

But the increase is dramatic and put alongside the likelihood that those are dramatically understated Government figures in that they represent only those who have been checked rather than the likely numbers who won't have been checked for various reasons, and I think it fair to say that the figures make serious but entirely predictable reading.

Put alongside so many other things they serve again to reflect the entirely misguided approach of this government to serving our country and its people's welfare.

Such issues as family breakdown, the effective encouragement of underage sex, the dramatic influx of people from all over the world which has contributed to a far greater range of sometimes incurable STI's now being seen, the seemingly increasing and irresponsible gang culture, the hugely increased and highly impersonal promotion of the sex industry, the jobs crisis which has increased the feeling of hopelessness and indifference among not just individuals but whole communities and left so many of them twiddling their thumbs in idleness and only too eager to seek other comforts whatever the outcome...it's all - with many other things - a connected downward spiral and one that needs to be arrested.

You could have posted 99% of that under the previous Tory government and the government's previous to that.

There's been a ongoing decline in morality and what passes as acceptable behaviour through successive governments probably since Victorian times, so it's inevitably reached a peak. It would be naive to believe that much of the above could be curtailed by electing another government what ever their hue was.

[Thracian]

" COUGH "

If you're saying I must try harder you're absolutely right. Trouble is, as I hurry through my 61st year, my body seems to have its own opinion.

[Thracian]

You could have posted 99% of that under the previous Tory government and the government's previous to that.

There's been a ongoing decline in morality and what passes as acceptable behaviour through successive governments probably since Victorian times, so it's inevitably reached a peak. It would be naive to believe that much of the above could be curtailed by electing another government what ever their hue was.

I wouldn't trouble myself to disagree but as I've mentioned before on this and other issues, I'm not concerned with the failings of long-gone governments, I'm concerned with not extending and prolonging the failings of this one, especially as they seem to be endless and unremitting.

Solutions won't be easy for anyone given the earthquake effect of this Government's impact. But a start needs to be made by someone.

[Jon the Hat]

You could have posted 99% of that under the previous Tory government and the government's previous to that.

There's been a ongoing decline in morality and what passes as acceptable behaviour through successive governments probably since Victorian times, so it's inevitably reached a peak. It would be naive to believe that much of the above could be curtailed by electing another government what ever their hue was.

It cannot be any worse than the endless spin, reannouncement of the same funding and populist nonsense that we have put up with for the last 12 years. Labour have been more interested in the appearance of doing something and spinning results to say they have than actually doing it. You cannot deny that in all areas of public life the bureaucracy and time wasting have increased.

[Dr The Singh]

It cannot be any worse than the endless spin, reannouncement of the same funding and populist nonsense that we have put up with for the last 12 years. Labour have been more interested in the appearance of doing something and spinning results to say they have than actually doing it. You cannot deny that in all areas of public life the bureaucracy and time wasting have increased.

Moral decline has alot to do with family values, education, discipline by peers and the influence of external factors, such as media, access to immoral materials, societies inability to punish bad behaviour!!

The government, like on many occassions just pay lip service, and want to be seen to be proactive!! Unfortuantely within there ranks, are the 'do-gooders' who have a very dosile attitude to discipline!!!

[davieG]

I wouldn't trouble myself to disagree but as I've mentioned before on this and other issues, I'm not concerned with the failings of long-gone governments, I'm concerned with not extending and prolonging the failings of this one, especially as they seem to be endless and unremitting.

Solutions won't be easy for anyone given the earthquake effect of this Government's impact. But a start needs to be made by someone.

I wasn't excusing other governments I just think it's naive to expect any significant change - maybe I'm just too cynical now to expect such a change because I've not seen anything from any current politician or political party that indicates anything other than scratching the surface - I'm also cynical enough to believe that whoever wins an election and what ever they promise will disappear like the wind once they are in power and feeling comfortable for 5 years.