Smudge Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 Ouch.But on the other hand, it says that the life jackets were not inflated suggesting that they did not know they would crash so would death have been permanent? Also, if death was instant, they would still have shit themselves I guess with the rapid deceleration and seeing the sea outside It's my understanding that death is pretty permanent .
DB11 Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 It's my understanding that death is pretty permanent . Oh dear I meant instant
StanSP Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 Another air disaster: http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-...entid=148299900
Fox You Forest Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 I thought El Empty solved this a few pages back?
Edmund Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 I wonder who was on this one? I bet there's more VIP's like the executives from the South American steel companies and the two leading gun runners who were on the other Air France jet a few weeks ago. Plus many more. In fact it is unreal the amount of high fliers with connections to the White House who were on the last one. Got the list if anyone wants it to check.Dodgy as piss
BoneDog Posted 3 July 2009 Posted 3 July 2009 Bold statement. The pilots in the Air France jet could have flown around the storm, and Air France could have replaced the know to be faulty Pitot tubes (as all airlines have done since). In the second crash the pilots were flying a known to be dangerous plane into a poorly equipped airport and it looks likely they hit the water with a wingtip after deciding they were going to miss the runway and attempting to turn around and try again. It wasn't the storm or plane faults that made this plane (the 1st one) disappear, I bet ya. It was taken out cos of a few people on board who were gonna lose some big dog US criminal/businessmen millions maybe billions of dollars. Or at least make the job harder for them. I don't know anything about the 2nd plane (Yemen I think) but it was a miracle that girl survived which was a bit of good news in a tragic situation.
BoneDog Posted 3 July 2009 Posted 3 July 2009 nice one! But yes I am serious! Do you not believe that our world is run by gangsters of the highest most cold hearted kind? I know you think some of my beliefs are crazy, but you surely know that our leaders and most others in the world are not the nice caring people they pretend to be? Given the amount of people they kill elsewhere I don't see why people might not believe they are capable of taking out an airliner or two. Just like they did on Sep 11. And 7/7 was a big lie too (who did it I mean).
BoneDog Posted 3 July 2009 Posted 3 July 2009 I thought El Empty solved this a few pages back? Correct, thankyou
James. Posted 3 July 2009 Author Posted 3 July 2009 And 7/7 was a big lie too (who did it I mean). Come on then, let's hear it.
Edmund Posted 3 July 2009 Posted 3 July 2009 nice one!But yes I am serious! Do you not believe that our world is run by gangsters of the highest most cold hearted kind? I know you think some of my beliefs are crazy, but you surely know that our leaders and most others in the world are not the nice caring people they pretend to be? Given the amount of people they kill elsewhere I don't see why people might not believe they are capable of taking out an airliner or two. Just like they did on Sep 11. And 7/7 was a big lie too (who did it I mean). Did you watch that documentry the 7/7 ripple effect the other day. It showed how conspiracy theories can be taken out of context. It was about a video some guy produced claiming facts that the government had set the bombers up. They tracked the guy down and he was some matey who thought he was Jesus. Here he is : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8124687.stm You should watch the program its on BBC iplayer. As musch as I admire your persistence. Surely if you have uncovered all the facts and know the truth they will be hunting you next. If I was you I wouldn't fly to New york, take an Air France flight or travel by tube anytime soon.
BoneDog Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Did you watch that documentry the 7/7 ripple effect the other day. 1. It showed how conspiracy theories can be taken out of context. It was about a video some guy produced claiming facts that the government had set the bombers up. They tracked the guy down and he was some matey who thought he was Jesus. Here he is : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8124687.stmYou should watch the program its on BBC iplayer. As musch as I admire your persistence. 2. Surely if you have uncovered all the facts and know the truth they will be hunting you next. If I was you I wouldn't fly to New york, take an Air France flight or travel by tube anytime soon. 1. I agree with you on that. There are thousands of conspiracy theories that are crazy. That doesn't mean that there are no conspiricies though. A conspiracy is a secret plan by a small group of people. And they happen. 2. I haven't uncovered any facts. I just say that our leaders have no love for us and that they do alot of shit around the world including to their 'own' people. And I don't believe a word they say (with good reason cos they are proven to lie to us often). I do know that Sep 11th was different than they say. And I believe the same of 7/7 too. This quote is from the link above ... "But it took nearly a year for the official account (of 7/7) to be published, and much of the evidence, such as CCTV and photographs, only came out slowly afterwards." I would say this ... the photos of four guys walking into a train station is not evidence at all. How is that evidence of anything? It's not.
Edmund Posted 14 July 2009 Posted 14 July 2009 http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-07-12-csiplane_N.htm Sorry to burst your bubble empty but : An examination of the tail fin, which rises vertically from the fuselage, shows that it was torn forward from its moorings, the BEA said. That suggests that it came loose when the jet stopped suddenly. As a result, French investigators suspect that the jet was intact when it hit the water and that the impact tore off the tail.
BoneDog Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 I re-read it and decided to delete! I will say this though : No matter how it came down I still say it was a 'job'. There were some nuisances on board who were needed gone. They were on their way to present some documents in Switzerland I think about how certain people are involved in arms smuggling. And they weren't the only nuisances on board, it's amazing how many were in one plane at the same time
Tabou Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 I actually cannot get my head around some of the suggestions in this thread.
James. Posted 15 July 2009 Author Posted 15 July 2009 I re-read it and decided to delete! I will say this though : No matter how it came down I still say it was a 'job'. There were some nuisances on board who were needed gone. They were on their way to present some documents in Switzerland I think about how certain people are involved in arms smuggling. And they weren't the only nuisances on board, it's amazing how many were in one plane at the same time Has anything ever happened in the history of the world that wasn't a conspiracy? Is Foxestalk actually run by MI5 to spy on football fans? Is Mark who he says he is? Did Leicester really beat Watford 4-1 when Martin Allen was in charge? When I took a shit last night was it the CIA that were behind it? So many questions, Empty!
lou Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 I dont have a clue whos right, who did what, who killed who etc but am loving all this conspiracy theory stuff. Love watching those sort of programmes, 9/11, The New World Order etc. Really is food for thought and Im pretty sure we're fed a whole lot more propaganda than most of these so called 3rd world countries/dictatorships that were supposed to be being attacked by.
Monk Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 Did Leicester really beat Watford 4-1 when Martin Allen was in charge? No, it never happened. It was a mirage of our combined expectations...
Zingari Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 I dont have a clue whos right, who did what, who killed who etc but am loving all this conspiracy theory stuff. Love watching those sort of programmes, 9/11, The New World Order etc. Really is food for thought and Im pretty sure we're fed a whole lot more propaganda than most of these so called 3rd world countries/dictatorships that were supposed to be being attacked by. You better believe it .. Anyone who thinks JFK was killed by a lone nut gunman is seriously out of touch , And if he wasn't, then the proof is there that governments in league with rogue elements of the CIA, FBI, Mafia etc can orchestrate massive cover ups
BoneDog Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 I dont have a clue whos right, who did what, who killed who etc but am loving all this conspiracy theory stuff. Love watching those sort of programmes, 9/11, The New World Order etc. Really is food for thought and Im pretty sure we're fed a whole lot more propaganda than most of these so called 3rd world countries/dictatorships that were supposed to be being attacked by. Hooray
BoneDog Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 You better believe it ..Anyone who thinks JFK was killed by a lone nut gunman is seriously out of touch , And if he wasn't, then the proof is there that governments in league with rogue elements of the CIA, FBI, Mafia etc can orchestrate massive cover ups Yes! He was killed by the driver, I can put a video up where you can see the driver put his hand over his shoulder with a gun and BAM. Might be a bit bad for a forum with youngsters though Weren't he supposed to have been shot from above and behind (by the lone gunman)? On the vid I've got you can clearly see him being shot from the front and the exit out the back of his head
BoneDog Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 Has anything ever happened in the history of the world that wasn't a conspiracy?Is Foxestalk actually run by MI5 to spy on football fans? Is Mark who he says he is? Did Leicester really beat Watford 4-1 when Martin Allen was in charge? When I took a shit last night was it the CIA that were behind it? So many questions, Empty! Yes we defo beat Watford 4-1 cos I was sat at the side of the pitch (great day where my love for Martin Allen began!) I don't know about Mark but DavieG is a spy for sure Only jokin. As for your shit, did you eat out yesterday at all?
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 15 July 2009 Posted 15 July 2009 Yes!He was killed by the driver, I can put a video up where you can see the driver put his hand over his shoulder with a gun and BAM. Might be a bit bad for a forum with youngsters though Weren't he supposed to have been shot from above and behind (by the lone gunman)? On the vid I've got you can clearly see him being shot from the front and the exit out the back of his head This is absolutely laughable, I'm reading David aaronivtich's book currently and he completely blows arguments like this out of the water. It's absolute fantasy.
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