Guest Bilo Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Only this time we'd beat Argentina.Messi is no match for Vidic. Is it wrong that I'm not sure whether you're joking?
Father Ted Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Is it wrong that I'm not sure whether you're joking? And why would I be joking?
StanSP Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Only this time we'd beat Argentina.Messi is no match for Vidic. And why would I be joking? Because Messi would rip Vidic to parts. Just like Etoo did for his goal in CL Final
Father Ted Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Because Messi would rip Vidic to parts. Just like Etoo did for his goal in CL Final Ermmm No. And we have Branislav Ivanovic. Most underrated defender in the Premiership.
lildave3 Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Ermmm No. And we have Branislav Ivanovic. Most underrated defender in the Premiership. As much of a tool you are, that is actually true.
Guest Bilo Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Because Messi would rip Vidic to parts. Just like Etoo did for his goal in CL Final Yes. Messi is the best player on the planet, safe to say there is no central defender who he 'isn't a match for.'
Guest Bilo Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 And why would I be joking? Call me presumptuous but.....
Tilley Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Don't really like him but Ted is right, Vidic and Ivanovic are two quality defenders to have in your team, both better than Rio.
StanSP Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Don't really like him but Ted is right, Vidic and Ivanovic are two quality defenders to have in your team, both better than Rio. Fair enough, but against a potential strikeforce of Messi, Tevez, Aguero (over-rated by some I know), and Maxi Rodriguez, I think I know who I'll put my bets on
Edmund Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Call me presumptuous but..... Oh no here we go. It's going to be hell on here if we draw Ivory Coast. Forget England Vs Ivory Coast. Yaya Toure Vs Steven Gerrard.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 What's peoples opinions of Australia and how do you rate us?
dandannieldanok Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 What's peoples opinions of Australia and how do you rate us? My favourites for the tournament personally.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Torres made Vidic look a complete shower of shit.
StanSP Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Torres made Vidic look a complete shower of shit. In both matches last year. Vidic got torn a new one each time.
TrickyTrev Posted 2 December 2009 Posted 2 December 2009 Torres made Vidic look a complete shower of shit. As did Sami Etoo. Obviously a class act, but there are questions marks when he goes up against really good athletes. Serbia still have one of the best defenses in the tournament and enough quality going forward for me to want to avoid them. Socceroo. I think English fans know less about the current Australia side, we knew before that Kewell and Viduka were key players and had a good look when you stuffed us at Upton Park. I'm not sure how you are set up these days, I presume Cahill and Bresciano are your most important players? What are your hopes and expectations, just to get out of the group? Id rather draw you than USA, Mexico or South Korea, but I don't know much about either your or the Koreans so there is a bit of guessing involved in that.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 Socceroo. I think English fans know less about the current Australia side, we knew before that Kewell and Viduka were key players and had a good look when you stuffed us at Upton Park. I'm not sure how you are set up these days, I presume Cahill and Bresciano are your most important players? What are your hopes and expectations, just to get out of the group? Id rather draw you than USA, Mexico or South Korea, but I don't know much about either your or the Koreans so there is a bit of guessing involved in that. The important players are probably Kewell and Cahill as our main scorers We predominatly play 4-5-1 much like at the last World Cup and all thru the qualifiers were in 14 qualifers we only conceded 1 goal which was in the last game....our game is built on controling the tempo with a Midfeild of Cullina, Emerton, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell and Cahill. I think Quarter finals are realistic considering how close we were in Germany, assuming players stay fit as depth will be our issue. Find it intresting that you would rate South Korea ahead of us but they did beat us in a friendly in South Korea 6 months ago but it was really what a friendly is about with us resting many first team players and our lack of depth evident. My favourites for the tournament personally. I wish.
Finnegan Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 Would agree with you on the Ivanovic point, Ted, but Vidic looks immensely shakey up against anyone with a bit of speed. He's terrified of Fernando Torres and the skill and agility of Messi would give him nightmares. He's a quality player, sure, but I doubt Messi fears anyone.
Uncle Albert Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 Yaya Toure Vs Steven Gerrard. Won't happen unless Toure plays right midfield, maybe a good thing for Toure. Torres made Vidic look a complete shower of shit. Amen, just because Torres has done it twice to Vidic it doesnt mean Messi will, Torres is alot stronger and this is something Vidic doesnt like, Argentina wouldnt be able to lump the ball up to Messi and him do Vidic like that and I doubt Vidic would let himself get sucked out of position to go after Messi. So comparing them really is pointless. Spain are the only team I fear going into the World Cup - there are no other teams that I think would beat with our best eleven out, people saying Brazil completely outclassed us, yeah they did but we missed alot of players. France, Portugal, Germany, Itlay, Holland, Serbia, Argentina and Ivory Coast I fancy us to beat any of them, with our best eleven out.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 3 December 2009 Author Posted 3 December 2009 32 hrs 15 minutes to the BBC2 transmission
Joe. Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 I don't give a shit of they're hosts, South Africa getting seeded is a joke. Can't wait for this though, love World Cup draw. Worst case scenario we get USA, Ivory Coast and France/Portugal, still all very much winnable.
purpleronnie Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 England with a full strength squad shouldnt fear anyone. For me its all down to the big moments during the match thats when you have to give that little extra and pull through, its those moments that england have failed to win in the past that has cost us, I guess its down to keeping your heads and not to panic.
lcfc_jme Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 Won't happen unless Toure plays right midfield, maybe a good thing for Toure.Amen, just because Torres has done it twice to Vidic it doesnt mean Messi will, Torres is alot stronger and this is something Vidic doesnt like, Argentina wouldnt be able to lump the ball up to Messi and him do Vidic like that and I doubt Vidic would let himself get sucked out of position to go after Messi. So comparing them really is pointless. Spain are the only team I fear going into the World Cup - there are no other teams that I think would beat with our best eleven out, people saying Brazil completely outclassed us, yeah they did but we missed alot of players. France, Portugal, Germany, Itlay, Holland, Serbia, Argentina and Ivory Coast I fancy us to beat any of them, with our best eleven out. So I should just stick money on an England - Spain final with Spain going on to win it and hope the England squad stays fully fit?
Edmund Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 I don't give a shit of they're hosts, South Africa getting seeded is a joke. Why is it a joke It's always been like this. This is football snobbery at it's finest
The Doctor Posted 3 December 2009 Posted 3 December 2009 Only this time we'd beat Argentina.Messi is no match for Vidic. the result of last years CL final suggest otherwise
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