EDL (English Defence League)

[Fosse Boy]

We're not bombing the mosque, Barry.

Barry: Fuck, Fuck, fuck it!

Omar: Did you fix this then, Barry?

Barry: Yes, I fixed it!

Omar: Did you?

Barry: It's the parts... they're Jewish

Omar: What parts in a car are Jewish?

[pause]

Omar: Hmm?

Fessal: Spark plugs.

Barry: Spark plugs! Jews invented spark plugs to control global traffic.

[Finnegan]

Has your dad ever bought a jaffa orange? He's buying nukes for Israel, mate, he's a Jew!

[FoxyPV]

The homeland security and patriot acts are part of a master plan to a new world order make it easier for the US govt to target political undesirables.

Finners - definitely up for that! We need ACF to design a logo for us.

[Guest Bilo]

That EDL forum is one of the funniest I've ever read for sheer delusional nonsense.

I'm still convinced that Chris Morris started it for a huge joke and a Brass Eye special is coming.

[Dr The Singh]

That EDL forum is one of the funniest I've ever read for sheer delusional nonsense.

I'm still convinced that Chris Morris started it for a huge joke and a Brass Eye special is coming.

We will have less of that, i'm a mod on that forum, along with Strom Front. It's far better then this forum!!!

[Guest Bilo]

We will have less of that, i'm a mod on that forum, along with Strom Front. It's far better then this forum!!!

You bridge loving Nazi you!

[adam1]

this sounds a bit like the Hegelian , "problem reaction solution" , principle favoured by some of us loopy conspiracy theorists

This is why the EDL forum is stating that football supporters aren't what they used to be. when they are referring to this thread!

Fosse Boys, you have been linked to the UAF, see this link, http://uaf.org.uk/2010/09/football-fans-leaflet-24-grounds-against-racist-edl/.

Also from the EDL forum

it will more than likley be someone from the fosse boys ultras, very uaf connected flag wavers thats all.

Agreed - Fosse Boys Ultras are the latest incarnation of Leicester UAF.

It seems to me if you don't like racists, and are against attacking individual religions, you are deemed to be a legitimate target by the EDL. This is a common theme on their forums. Which journalists to target, which photographers to attack etc etc. You are now a target. Which makes me a target. Why does it make me a target? Because I do not want other people being attacked because they refuse to adhere to racial and religious hatred.

THIS IS FACISM

This is what Churchill was against and yet the EDL think that Churchill if alive would be supporting them.

The EDL are equivalent to the Nazis or Mosleys British Union of Fascists.

And those EDL supporters/members who are visiting this board, do not come back and call me a UAF activist. I hate socialism. I am not a 'lefty.' I am educated. I have knowledge. I am myself. I think what I want to think. I do what I want to do. I WILL NOT BE TOLD WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO THINK BY A FASCIST ORGANISATION. You can threaten me all you want because I will always be... me.

[BoneDog]

Maybe you need to refresh your knowledge empty, the quran has many verses on slavery NOT servents, including price, possesion, treatment and release. A servent in the context of 6th century Arabia can leave there employee or master as and when they wish....BOLLOX. In the 6th century, slavery was rife, and if you look at many of the battles Mohammed had, the booty included women and children slaves, who had very little rights and could not leave there masters without there masters say so. This is explianed in the quran, infact the quran and mohammed were revolutionary, they insisted on treating slaves better BUT, not once does the Quran or Mohammed abolish possesion of a human being ie slavery or servitude!!!!

The quran and Mohammed never once abolished forceful sex with slaves, and please do tell me, did the slaves or servents as you say have the option of refusal.............

You were incorrect about the age of Aisha and you are wrong about this aswell (imo of course). You were correct when you said that Muhammad tried to make life easier for slaves and the downtrodden (and yes slavery was rife back then, way before Islam came along).

As for your last sentence. are you seriously saying that the Quran condones rape, because it obviously doesn't? It seems to me like you enjoy trying to sow seeds of hatred towards Muslims and especially Porkistan as you call it, but I might be mistaken. I agree with you that there are extremists in Pakistan but the same can be said about India (which I know you do talk about so I'm not saying you try to deny that), the UK, USA and many other places. From what I've learned about much of the terrorism in Pakistan it seems that it is orchestrated by the ISI along with certain rogue elements of the CIA. Things are about to get much worse (i know it's already seriously hard) for Pakistanis on the military side and I, for one, feel very sorry for the majority of people there who are just trying to live normal lives because they are being played like a kipper.

Many people will celebrate when Pakistan starts getting destroyed by elements of it's own elite and outside agencies working together but I will be sad.

[Dr The Singh]

You bridge loving Nazi you!

...you know me too well!!

[BoneDog]

Generally though, it was because they felt they were defending their political ideology rather than their theology.

For example, Stalin turned to state sanctioned anti-semitism because he felt that Jews were conspiring against the Soviet state. The fact that he was an atheist was incidental, defence of what he saw as the Communist ideal was his motivation. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were all Communists, and Communism has traditionally had a deep antipathy of and mistrust for organised religion as they feel it reinforces social inequality and therefore represents a threat.

If you change Jews (because the Jews suffered just like everyone else) to zionists in the bold sentence then Stalin was absolutely correct. Some well known zionists at the time even spoke about and admitted this.

"What worked so wonderfully in Russia is going to become reality for the whole world", from The American Hebrew, September 10th 1920 (apparantly!). "We have exterminated the property owners in Russia and we are going to do the same in America and Europe", is another attributed quote but I haven't looked for sources on this one.

Stalin worked with the zionists though and was a wonderful servant to them by the sounds of it.

[lcfc_jme]

I think this can be best summed up by stating that not everyone in the EDL is an Islamophobic racist interested in causing trouble, but there are large numbers who are. In the same way it can be said that there are a lot of members of the MDL and UAF who want to turn up to demonstrations against the EDL in order to get heated, fight and generally cause chaos.

What irks me is that all of the trouble seems to be reported to come from the EDL side, when in reality for every member of the EDL being a cunt there are almost as many on the other side willing to act in the same way. A bit of a balance in the reporting wouldn't go amiss at times, really.

I don't have ties to any of the groups I've mentioned in the above, and if there's evidence to the contrary of what I've said above, I'd be happy for people to show me it.

[Dr The Singh]

You were incorrect about the age of Aisha and you are wrong about this aswell (imo of course). You were correct when you said that Muhammad tried to make life easier for slaves and the downtrodden (and yes slavery was rife back then, way before Islam came along).

As for your last sentence. are you seriously saying that the Quran condones rape, because it obviously doesn't? It seems to me like you enjoy trying to sow seeds of hatred towards Muslims and especially Porkistan as you call it, but I might be mistaken. I agree with you that there are extremists in Pakistan but the same can be said about India (which I know you do talk about so I'm not saying you try to deny that), the UK, USA and many other places. From what I've learned about much of the terrorism in Pakistan it seems that it is orchestrated by the ISI along with certain rogue elements of the CIA. Things are about to get much worse (i know it's already seriously hard) for Pakistanis on the military side and I, for one, feel very sorry for the majority of people there who are just trying to live normal lives because they are being played like a kipper.

Many people will celebrate when Pakistan starts getting destroyed by elements of it's own elite and outside agencies working together but I will be sad.

Mate, i didn't say the quran allows rape, I said it doesn't give rights to slaves to deny such actions. The only religion that sanctions prostitution and a form of religious inacted rape is hinduism (please read about devdasi's and some of Shiva's purinas)we could argue cases against and for, for days, people can do there own research and make there own minds up. If people want to know more about the koran or hadiths maybe they should check the religious text section of the University of Southern California, it compares many translations of koran and hadiths, most I must admit follows my chain of thought:

http://www.usc.edu/s...esources/texts/

I don't sow no seeds and the fact is porkistan has since independance used islamic militants as proxy for war against it's enemies. The fact is that these training camps have also trained Sikh seperatist and they know what the militants do, believe and what goes on and what there ideology is. The ISI, has fermented a jihadi mentality on a very poor narrow minded part of pakistani society that is hell bent on crusades that initially began against India and now have become training grounds for any that wishes to inact against anyone!!

The CIA, armed and trained miltiants during the afghan invasion by ruskies, and won by proxy, but today, it's those that they have trained that are killing US soldiers. The ISI, no run these exteremists and continue to do so!!

Pakistan in it's 50 years has always been run by a handful elite families, just like hindustan. Without the elite, the country will be run by illiterates or the army (which is alos run by elites), either way, as a nuclear power a very dangerous scenario. Unfortunately the average joe is getting sick and tired of the corrupt government and are beginning to see extremism as a alternative, the country will become a new afghan, and due to the nuclear element, the world are gonna have to do something. At the end of the day, it's porkistanis own fault, they should never have used extremism as a tool for it's own purpose, those that they manipulated are now growing and turning on there masters. The prokistani governments, people and the army have for the last 50 years allowed these extremist to train and propagate terror and done nothing.........you reap whta you sow!!!

Thsi isn't me being derogative or nasty, it's how I see it. Like i said the Afghans on the other hand don't give a shit about the world, only afghan, but prokistani's, they have training camps for all!!!

India or hindustan as i call it has it's safron brigade, the RSS, Bajrang dal, VHP etc etc, which are hindu militants, these guys are massive infact the BJP is the second biggest party, it's like having the BNP as the labour party, but the biggest extremist and terrorist is the hindustani government, they have inacted acts of genocide against, kashmiri's, hyderabadi's, Sikhs, biharis, naga's. India's interest are only porkistan and i would say they have via there secret service are responsible for alot of terror attacks. But, the hindu's have no ideals on propagating it's terror to any other country or have training grounds for foriegners in a sort of religious crusade. Hindustani's are cowards and only act tough on there own turf and where they are in a majority. The Uk branch of the safffron brigade, hide behind the hindu council UK, yet the india branch walk around tough and bully!!

[BoneDog]

Do they mean us?

I think they misunderstood my quote because I never said Bin Laden was Jewish, I said that he is a puppet, or partner in crime! And the folk pretending to be Muslim extremists in the videos I posted were not Muslims at all so I wasn't making that up.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Laden did have Jewish roots 'cos it seems that some of the Saudi Royals do. And, according to that Daily Telegraph report, even Ahmadinejad has Jewish roots and changed his name from Sabourjian (which is a Jewish name) to Ahmadinejad. Not that it matters, but apparantly it's true.

[Dr The Singh]

Atleast on that EDL site they didn't say anything bad against the 'The Original Fosse Boys', otherwise I would be pissed!

[BoneDog]

Many Sikhs fought and died in the WW1 and WW2. They are a warrior race similar to the Gurkhas and very loyal to Great Britain. To tarnish all Asians with the same brush is a disgrace. To this day the vast majority of Sikhs that I know love this country and are hard working and loyal.

I don't understand the loyal part. Sikhs are loyal to who and for what reason?

[Dr The Singh]

I don't understand the loyal part. Sikhs are loyal to who and for what reason?

To the truth!!!

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'm leaving the county for the day on Saturday.

I'm a bit worried as I read a book once and that probably qualifies me as one of the intelligentsia

[Finnegan]

To be fair Jme, that's generally for two reasons: one, the UAF wouldn't be there if the EDL weren't and the UAF aren't preaching politics that make the majority sick.

[BoneDog]

Apologies to Dr the Singh for insinuating he might be prejudiced. I dived in and responded before I had properly read what was said! It's a touchy subject.

I'm leaving the county for the day on Saturday.

I'm a bit worried as I read a book once and that probably qualifies me as one of the intelligentsia

I've read three.

[Dr The Singh]

Apologies to Dr the Singh for insinuating he might be prejudiced. I dived in and responded before I had properly read what was said! It's a touchy subject.

I've read three.

No apologies needed. It's a very bad situation for alot of people, especially because of the flood disaster in pakistan! The rich and elite will always survive, unfortunately in any crisis, it is always the poor that are hit the hardest!!

[Dr The Singh]

I'm leaving the county for the day on Saturday.

I'm a bit worried as I read a book once and that probably qualifies me as one of the intelligenitalia

Being a intelligent cock isn't so bad!!

[lcfc_jme]

To be fair Jme, that's generally for two reasons: one, the UAF wouldn't be there if the EDL weren't and the UAF aren't preaching politics that make the majority sick.

I'm here merely throwing ideas out there; I'm not having the greatest of days so wana keep occupied..

Fair on the UAF front I'd say, but it's generally more the MDL I was on about. I mean, I'm not excusing what the vast majority of the EDL are portrayed to be, not by a long shot. But I just can't understand why instances of violence against the EDL by a few members of the UAF (I'd imagine it has happened) and the MDL go largely unreported. I mean, on the MDL Facebook page (told you I've been trying to keep occupied), there's people* discussing actually wanting to fight, and one encouraged people to carry parker pens around because they cannot be confiscated and will cause maximum damage when stabbing white people and EDL members in the neck?! Pretty sinister and twisted in itself**, can't imagine it'd have been unique to just this planned demo either.

Would I be right in saying it's basically football hooliganism but on a larger scale and instead of football being the reason for fighting, it's Islam and Islamophobia?

*I realise these aren't the majority, which is evident just reading the page. The majority are trying to move away from violence.

**I'm aware that if I dug around enough I could probably find things as bad said by EDL members, but I've not got round that far just yet. I do usually tend to avoid topics like this because of my own conscious ignorance.

[Dr The Singh]

I'm here merely throwing ideas out there; I'm not having the greatest of days so wana keep occupied..

Fair on the UAF front I'd say, but it's generally more the MDL I was on about. I mean, I'm not excusing what the vast majority of the EDL are portrayed to be, not by a long shot. But I just can't understand why instances of violence against the EDL by a few members of the UAF (I'd imagine it has happened) and the MDL go largely unreported. I mean, on the MDL Facebook page (told you I've been trying to keep occupied), there's people* discussing actually wanting to fight, and one encouraged people to carry parker pens around because they cannot be confiscated and will cause maximum damage when stabbing white people and EDL members in the neck?! Pretty sinister and twisted in itself**, can't imagine it'd have been unique to just this planned demo either.

Would I be right in saying it's basically football hooliganism but on a larger scale and instead of football being the reason for fighting, it's Islam and Islamophobia?

*I realise these aren't the majority, which is evident just reading the page. The majority are trying to move away from violence.

**I'm aware that if I dug around enough I could probably find things as bad said by EDL members, but I've not got round that far just yet. I do usually tend to avoid topics like this because of my own conscious ignorance.

I've seen it with my own eye's all of them groups are hell bent on violence against each other, non of them are of any use in society, they all should fook off!!

[hairy]

I've seen it with my own eye's all of them groups are hell bent on violence against each other, non of them are of any use in society, they all should fook off!!

but I like the Fosse Boys

[Dr The Singh]

but I like the Fosse Boys

It's time to bring the Original Fosse Boys back!!!