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That pic was of the WDL and it was a few guys from Swansea. They were kicked out of the WDL once it was discovered they were mini hitlers.

Pretty sure one of the members is Wayne Baldwin, an EDL member who claims that the EDL "ain't racist, fook all to do with the BNP" I showed a video earlier that you and the other EDL supporters chose to ignore.

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That pic was of the WDL and it was a few guys from Swansea. They were kicked out of the WDL once it was discovered they were mini hitlers.

dont let the truth get in the way of a good story though mate ;-)

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Pretty sure one of the members is Wayne Baldwin, an EDL member who claims that the EDL "ain't racist, fook all to do with the BNP" I showed a video earlier that you and the other EDL supporters chose to ignore.

stop buzzing around! there were no videos! say something constructive! like this post!

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almost certainly a tethered goat wind up merchant , but fookin good at it :D

i've got a funny feeling that "terrance ginola" is a crafty anagram involving something like "o a cretin angler" :fishing:

Guest lcfc80
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Pretty sure one of the members is Wayne Baldwin, an EDL member who claims that the EDL "ain't racist, fook all to do with the BNP" I showed a video earlier that you and the other EDL supporters chose to ignore.

if one of those members is who you say then you ignored the last bit of the post, they were kicked out of the WDL, infact it doesnt matter who they are, they got kicked out of the wdl

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Pretty sure one of the members is Wayne Baldwin, an EDL member who claims that the EDL "ain't racist, fook all to do with the BNP" I showed a video earlier that you and the other EDL supporters chose to ignore.

Couldn't say if it was him mate. I'm not a supporter of theirs, just like to be in the know about both groups (EDL + UAF)

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dear oh dear, I feel for the kid's who have those ignorant views thrust upon them.

Quite right.

How any British/European person can have the Swastika tattooed on their body is beyond me. I'm an open minded chap but fook me, what the sign represents is just inhumane imho. 8 million people murdered because of the belief of one sadistic regime and their emblem.

Be right wing all you like but don't use the Nazi's emblem. Thankfully living in Nottingham, I didn't have to witness any of these incidents yesterday. But both groups are as bad as each other imo, they were both there yesterday for one reason - a scrap. They were just hiding behind their "it was meant to be a peaceful demonstration" "they attacked us" "it wasn't our fault" crap. I don't really pay any attention to either group.

Yes the country is in a rubbish state, yes immigration is a serious problem for the UK, but so is so much else. I'm sorry but there's no way a street fight can solve any problem whatsoever.

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As for the lad who was chased in Highfields I feel for you but I can understand why it happend Im not saying its right but maybe why. These guys live and were probably born and bred in Highfields when you see a bunch of guys (EDL) coming to where you live and wanting a fight your gonna hit back. Unfortunatly for you and your friends your in the wrong place at the wrong time, they were just defending their patch from EDL. You guys got tarnished with the same brush. I bet next week if you go down there again nothing will happen to you.

Hmm.. I can understand wanting to "defend their patch" as it were, but surely acting like savages after the vast majority of the EDL is surely going to cause even more trouble than behaving in the same way to the EDL whilst in town? I mean, it's one thing for them to go looking for a scrap with an equally moronic bunch of meatheads, but to go after innocent young locals who've done nothing more than step off a train, avoid the city centre and attempt to walk home? That to me just serves to further alienate themselves from the local community and create tension after the demonstration has finished. Infact, if that kind of thing happened to innocent people a lot more, more often than not it'd just end with more people lending their support to organisations like the EDL. After all, having not been in the city all day and then being chased by a gang who aren't exactly going to ask you for a chat and if you want company on your trip home will make you think they're the cvnts spoiling for trouble, not the EDL.

Luckily, my bro and his mates are level-headed enough not to have taken that view, thanks in no part to the level-headed folk around them. But the same can't be said for every instance in which this happens.

Oh, and JME, sorry to hear about your brother mate. Like I say, you get prejudiced twats from all backgrounds and these vile thugs should be held to account just as much as the EDL ****** who decided to smash up parts of our city yesterday.

Cheers lad, least they managed to get away, eh? I know full well the fvckers who chased them aren't representative of the Muslim community as a whole, I still talk to a lot of the Muslim kids I went school with. As I said yesterday, if they were all put in a fvcking field in the middle of nowhere and allowed to smash seven shades of shit out of each other away from cities and innocent people, society as a whole would win.

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Why is everyone who is in disagreement with the EDL called a lefty? I wouldn't consider myself left wing just for not being against Muslims.

Mhmm.

I'd describe myself as pretty fooking right wing, but I'm not racist.

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dear oh dear, I feel for the kid's who have those ignorant views thrust upon them.

Non-Christian religions in Wales make up less than 1.5% [that's all non-Christian religions].

Talk about being bigots and sheeps. In 10-15 years time when this Muslim thing is played out and people get over it, and a new "external enemy" image has been created in order to continue to create disarray and division between the working class people of all colours & religions,, these same sheeps will again jump on the bandwagon and have a crusade against that newly created enemy image.

Stupid pricks don't know they are being used.

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Take a look at the "friendly visit" the EDL paid to a local dinner.

Notice there were women and children in there and you can clearly hear the cries of the kids. Yet these thugs just came in and started attacking people.

Just gob smacked. Of course it was a "minority"...... :rolleyes:

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Take a look at the "friendly visit" the EDL paid to a local dinner.

Notice there were women and children in there and you can clearly hear the cries of the kids. Yet these thugs just came in and started attacking people.

Just gob smacked. Of course it was a "minority"...... :rolleyes:

How dare you, you lefty.

The EDL are an entirely peaceful group and those people were all UAF plants there to make the wonderful EDL look bad. :rolleyes:

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Take a look at the "friendly visit" the EDL paid to a local dinner.

Notice there were women and children in there and you can clearly hear the cries of the kids. Yet these thugs just came in and started attacking people.

Just gob smacked. Of course it was a "minority"...... :rolleyes:

Disgusting

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Take a look at the "friendly visit" the EDL paid to a local dinner.

Notice there were women and children in there and you can clearly hear the cries of the kids. Yet these thugs just came in and started attacking people.

Just gob smacked. Of course it was a "minority"...... :rolleyes:

bloody hell :(

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In 10-15 years time when this Muslim thing is played out and people get over it, and a new "external enemy" image has been created in order to continue to create disarray and division between the working class people of all colours & religions,, these same sheeps will again jump on the bandwagon and have a crusade against that newly created enemy image.

Stupid pricks don't know they are being used.

How to Run a Country 101

Next week: oh look, a new superbug

All of this is just basic political divide and rule with help from a profiting sensationalist media. To be perfectly honest, if a few poorly designed human beings indulging their homo-erotic pseudo-violence fantasies is the worst thing going on in our lives, then we're doing alright.

I only fear that too many people might start to take them seriously.

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Mhmm.

I'd describe myself as pretty fooking right wing, but I'm not racist.

Tis a pity but something we can work on :thumbup:

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Non-Christian religions in Wales make up less than 1.5% [that's all non-Christian religions].

Talk about being bigots and sheeps. In 10-15 years time when this Muslim thing is played out and people get over it, and a new "external enemy" image has been created in order to continue to create disarray and division between the working class people of all colours & religions,, these same sheeps will again jump on the bandwagon and have a crusade against that newly created enemy image.

Stupid pricks don't know they are being used.

Have you been watching those Adam ( power of nightmares ) Curtis DVD s again ? :)

What percentage does the EDL make up of the total population of England?

probably a fraction of a per cent ,

But does that stop the UAF getting it's knickers in a twist ?

Maybe we all need the bogey man in our lives

EDL are wankers but UAF does seem to be a bunch of fookin hypocrites though

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I repeat the following again. The EDL are racist. The EDL are fascists.

Racism is more or less a buzzword. It is short for racial hatred.

There is no equivalent word for religious hatred. But it still is as bad as racism.

In the eyes of the law, racial and religiously aggravated offences are considered together, for example Racially or religiously aggravated assaults s.29 Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

Now I have stated that the EDL are racists as well as being fascists, if inciting religious hatred isn't bad enough.

Racial group means a group of persons defined by reference to race, colour, nationality or ethnic or national origins.

Religious group means a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief.

So how are they racist?

They are against 'extreme/militant/radical' (interchangeable) muslims.

How do you define an 'extreme/militant/radical' muslim?

What makes a muslim 'extreme/militant/radical?

The answer according to the EDL are those hell bent on attacking this country. However if you ask a number of 'EDL' members or supporters that question you will get differing levels of response.

So how do you visualise a 'radical/extreme/militant' muslim. How do you visualise 'radical/extreme/militant' Islam. What do they look like? Can the EDL give me a definitive answer? No. I would get differing levels of response.

The problem with the EDL is that it is at this identifying 'the enemy' point where it becomes racial. At this point people are targeted because of their ethnic origins. Racial. They are targeted because they are a different nationality. Racial. They are targeted for wearing a Galabiyya and having a beard. Racial. A common occurrence at EDL gatherings is the shout of 'fook off you pakis'. Racial.

Fascism?

It is clear the EDL reject and resist the autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of 'their nation'.

Oh and as to claims about being the biggest mobilised street army this country has ever seen, barely 700 people when they stated 3k+? Laughable. Oh and 100 people out of about 700 at a protest IS a sizeable amount.

Stating on BBC Radio Leicester that the EDL do not attack people, they are the English DEFENCE League. Yet on their forums they have a thread of people to attack. Supposedly leftist photographers, journalists and the leaders of the UAF. Also the big johns video. Hmmm

Yes some elements of the UAF and locals wanted some confrontation. But who originally set out for the confrontation by organising a march? The EDL. Pot kettle black. It doesn't matter who instigated each individual disorder yesterday. The EDL knew that having a march in Leicester was going to create racial/religious tension. This is what they do.

And another point. Apparently every muslim who was involved in some sort of disturbance is automatically a member of the MDL? Somehow I think not. Again just because they are muslim doesn't mean they are 'extreme.' This has been used on the EDL board and is well advertised on the youtube clips that were uploaded (look at the titles).

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Can someone on the EDL "side" of things tell me what exactly is being protested by their marches, by the way?

What exactly is "protesting against Islamic extremists?" I mean, who are they protesting to? Who are they trying to convince and what exactly are they trying to convince them?

I know you like your posh newspapers so I'll try and show my points with links you can all check out as I seriously think some of you don't have the self respect to do any research of your own. Why are you all so happy to just follow the story that fits your type of music, or mates, or pubs, or NUS, or how that quirky girl thinks.........do some research and gain some knowledge!

1) - Started after Islamic Extremists targeted and verbally abused our troops on a homecoming march even calling them baby killer. Even is there was only 20, lets not ignore this is our own country. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-antiwar-protesters-abuse-troops-1642232.html

2) - Personal one this....can you imagine going to any other country in the world and holding placards like this. This is in TRAFALGAR SQUARE! http://www.hoax-slayer.com/muslim-protest-london.shtml

3) - The potential that primary school swimming lessons are to be changed over muslim parents not agreeing with historic british swimming lesson tradition and refusing their daughters to be present with other boys or male teachers. Not full story but http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Muslim-father-unhappy-daughter-s-school-swimming-sessions/article-2739192-detail/article.html

4) - No link but in Huddersfield Examiner the Muslim who caught dealing cocaine and heroin - fully expected a heavy sentence but after the mitigation LET OFF!!! due to the stress he was under over the turmoil in Pakistan?!? How is that relevant!

5) - This will sound like a cheap shot but I wont go into my job etc but for me Christmas is basically cancelled this year due to not wishing to offend non christians

6) - The muslim policeman who has CHOSEN not to like Israel is allowed to pick and choose what duties he does in london based on who he chooses to support - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfmEpKsUS5k

7) - Halal meat is slaughtered in torturous conditions and Asda, KFC and other mainstream places all serve it without your knowledge. Interesting Mcdonalds served it by mistake and apologised knowing its wrong. Now I'm no veggie, but I find this discusting as animals dont have to suffer!! They wouldnt be put down humainly - but because islam has the whip hand over England they have to suffer! If they advertised Halal meat then at least we could shop somewhere else and eventually they'll loose business - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319218/Chicken-McHalal-An-MoS-investigation-reveals-halal-meat-IS-used-McDonalds-popular-meals.html

This is without mentioning the 52 murders on 7/7 by Militant Islam - tell me its only 0.1% of muslims thats fine, its the 0.1% of muslims we were protesting against

The above 7 statements are all fact and I presume you all agree with me thats its disgusting that its happening in the UK. So my challenge to you is that if you don't like mass protests from the EDL - how would you get a serious, high level conversation on the direction we want the country to go brought to the powers that be? I want christmas and I'm not happy!

On a little side note 1st time i've seen very up close the power of the babysquad. Think we'll be hearing a lot more about them and cov in the next few weeks. Also seen loads of L1 and koppites/SK1 lot out so fair play.

Please go ahead, rip my points or if you dare do a proper reply (without the easiest of answers of racist) then I look forward to it. Maybe you'll find the answer and the EDL can disband?

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Have you been watching those Adam ( power of nightmares ) Curtis DVD s again ? :)

What percentage does the EDL make up of the total population of England?

probably a fraction of a per cent ,

But does that stop the UAF getting it's knickers in a twist ?

Maybe we all need the bogey man in our lives

EDL are wankers but UAF does seem to be a bunch of fookin hypocrites though

I don't know much about either group but I'd guess they are as bad as each other.

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