J.Lisemore Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 For anyone that went...is it now safe for me to go and buy something from town tomorrow?
Professor Terrance Ginola Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 just like the EDL with not all members 'hating pakis' etc ok lefty back to your student pub. These left wing students dissolve me like sugar in hot water. Ten pints of watered down Carling and they've got the answer to all our immigration problems.
gazzer Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 EDL and UAF are just 'rent-a-crowd' puppets of the globalists contributing to their 'divide and conquer' strategy to achieve World Government. Pawns. Makes me angry when they arrange their scrap in my locality though. Council Tax is expensive enough as it is.
BoneDog Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Sorry. i don't buy this conspiracy bollocks about non muslims pretending to be islamic radicals on Youtube spouting off hate any more than I believe someone tipped off jews not to go to work on the morning of 11th september 2001 at the world trade centre. The Taliban did make a very public state visit to the united states, so what if they went to south dakota to visit mount rushmore? Almost every single post terror event I have seen so far, no one representing nom-radical Islam has ever wanted to say anything remotely accusatory about the perpetrators. Until this internal wall of almost uniform silence and denial stops and muslims realise protecting the terrorists within causes nothing but unjust resent to ordinary, peaceful and harmonious muslims ,who are a wonderful and welcome addition to any community they choose to settle in. I'm afraid this is a problem that muslims need to resolve, and resolve soon if they wish to play any sort of role in a progressive, harmonious and multi cultural community without the smoke screen of blaming thugs like the EDL for their self inflicted victimisation. Ok fair enough, we both hate the terrorists and whoever planned the attacks but I just think that different people were responsible other than the ones who were blamed. The thing that bothers me most about 9/11 for example is the fact that if the American fighter pilots were allowed in the air that day then none of the attacks would have happened. Who had the authority to keep the fighter pilots on the ground when on every other single day for 30 years they would have been straight in the air to intercept? 9/11 is the only day ever that the fighter pilots weren't given permission to intercept, and the person who gave the order not to intercept was either Cheney or Rumsfeld (can't remember which one without checking). Don't you find that a little bit strange?
Guest DavidJCW Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Sorry to show my utter ignorance here, but did anything happen in Leicester today? I just stayed at home and did what I was going to anyway... nothing but watch TV!
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Link I dont condone this sort of behaviour. However, this is one hell of a punch!!!!
Guest lcfc80 Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Only one doing the Sieg Heil? :laugh: Bugger me, if these are all UAF plants they must be short on numbers. they dont look like the ENGLISH defence league to me
Guest lcfc80 Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 I think people get called racist when they show themselves in that light. By making sweeping generalisations about a race of people usually. Don't you find that all the fear mongering about Muslims wanting shariah law and strapping bombs to themselves left right and centre is nonsense though? Extreme Islam has not affected my life one iota. Has it yours? I live in a mostly muslim area and even the middle of the road ones haven't affected me. In fact, there's a halal shop just up the round that's really handy for garlic when I've run out. Different cultures are good, as long as we aren't afraid of them. i'll fooking tell you how it effected me by having a communication blackout from london the morning of the fooking bombs going off and not knowing if my 2 brothers were some of the unfortunate people to be killed by them bastard suicide terrorists who were hell bent on damaging our way of life. or is worrying about your family racist aswell now
Nick Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 so thats none then , i actually know quite a few that are leading members of the EDL (remember im not a member before you explode over your computer) and was invited to go by some birmingham fella, now i was going to take my muslim friend aswell who is against islamic extremisam and he would of been perfectly safe, but as you know best because you've spoken to ZERO members i'll leave you to look silly and get angry f that was the whole of the EDL then you would have a point but me and you know it wasnt. the lefties have the same problem with factions just wanting to kick off wth the other side. for example at one edl meeting a few months back they held a 2 minutes silence out of respect for the fallen troops that have died serving our country and some leftie bird decided to shout through a megaphone all th way through it, pure class eh yeah ok, we wont lash out blowing people up on a bus is fair???!! Im glad it makes there life hell for a day, try being a parent who has lost there kid because of islam and the nutters it produces. Work of the Devil. I look at the EDL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azYIgTOBv4s And all I see are some marginalised white men with their own problems, channelling their lack of voice through a weak and fragmented political argument using fear and violence as a vehicle to express themselves. lcfcstu - You are probably an alright fella, but be careful you are just a few steps shy of becoming indoctrinated by hate. 90% of the above is just nonsense. You need to make some new friends and get a more balanced view, before it's too late and you are just a beer'd up **** in the street taking public resources away from those who really need it. We could have paid for the EDL to undertake degrees in radicalism and new media with what it cost to Police Leicester this weekend. They could have carried out some real research in the area and maybe sourced some new learning materials. The EDL is a disillusioned, racist organisation run by marginalised white men who understand bugger all about British Foreign Policy around the globe over the last 500 years. Reading this thread made me really sad this morning that there are so many marginalised, polarised people prepared to take such vile action, equipped with so little knowledge. On another note, I'm liking the new 'Sweden' emoticon. N.
bluefox9er Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Ok fair enough, we both hate the terrorists and whoever planned the attacks but I just think that different people were responsible other than the ones who were blamed. The thing that bothers me most about 9/11 for example is the fact that if the American fighter pilots were allowed in the air that day then none of the attacks would have happened. Who had the authority to keep the fighter pilots on the ground when on every other single day for 30 years they would have been straight in the air to intercept? 9/11 is the only day ever that the fighter pilots weren't given permission to intercept, and the person who gave the order not to intercept was either Cheney or Rumsfeld (can't remember which one without checking). Don't you find that a little bit strange? what i find very alarming is that it's almost as if you are saying 9/11 was given a helping hand because a bunch of muppets at NORAD were alseep on the job on the morning of the attacks. The only thing I found strange about 9/11 is why Muslims refuse to blame even of radical islam for the events of 9/11 . it's even more tiresome when radical islam has taken full responsibility yet I have yet to meet a Muslim who says or agrees that 9/11 was the results of planned and premeditated plans carried out by MUSLIMS. I know some muslims who even think GW Bush was in florida guiding planes by remote control into the buildings. It's exactly people like this who make not only radical islam easy to hate for the masses, but moderate islam , too...and again herein is the problem. Moderate islam needs to pull it's finger out of it's arse and start naming and shaming the ****ers in their midst who wish harm on innocent people instead of protecting them. By protecting them and denying they even exist, moderate islam sails dangerously close to the line of radical islam....and the responsibility to differentiate between the 2 lies in the hands of those who have a very limited tolerance threshold towards mass murder of innocents and even smaller intellectual capacity to know that radical is different and totally distinct to peaceful, harmonious moderate islam. In the UK , the ball is squarely in the court of the Moderate Islam to brand it's self as a faith of tolerance and peace, but as long as it continues to protect the radicals, EDL and others who sympathise will continue to flourish.
bluefox9er Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 they dont look like the ENGLISH defence league to me welsh defence league and a picture o=f random nazis to me. i'm sure neither group would want to be mistaken for the EDL.
purpleronnie Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 dear oh dear, I feel for the kid's who have those ignorant views thrust upon them.
adam1 Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 they dont look like the ENGLISH defence league to me You are a complete tool. In fact everything you have just said in this thread can now officially be regarded as completely incorrect to the extent that it should be ignored, and any future posts shall be ignored. The Welsh Defence League are an offshoot of the EDL alongside the Scottish equivalent. For all intent and purposes they are the same. The EDL created divisions for organisational purposes. Obviously the Welsh were not going to stand under a banner marked 'english defence league.' And here is something interesting, it has been taken from the welsh defence league website. Standing up against Militant Islam and the extremists behind the plot to make Britain an Islamic State. We will peacefully protest every time they attempt to stir up hatred in Wales and will travel to help our English, Scottish and Irish brothers and sisters whenever needed. This is not a racist group, and all races are welcome to join. No BNP, NF or Nazis here. Even if you cant attend protests, you can become one of our army of "armchair warriors" to bombard people/MPs/venues allowing hatespeakers we choose to protest against with (non threatening) emails and phonecalls and letters, leaving them in no doubt that large numbers of people oppose them.
FoxyPV Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Adam1 - I think the bit you have highlighted is contradicted by the men in the photo with swastikas tattooed and the sieg heil salute They seem like a pretty open minded bunch to me. If you are going to salute you might as well do it with your right arm and do it properly. (and without a beer can in one hand)
Bugg Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Adam1 - I think the bit you have highlighted is contradicted by the men in the photo with swastikas tattooed and the sieg heil salute They seem like a pretty open minded bunch to me. It was the idea. Adam1 is against the EDL.
FoxyPV Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 It was the idea. Adam1 is against the EDL. Touche! Good point well made Adam1
Pst Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 I have nothing to do with the EDL or UAF, but isn't tarring all the EDL members as 'drunken thugs' the same as saying all Muslims are extremists? On another note, I had to drive through the outskirts of town yesterday with my mate who is a Muslim. The first thing he said was 'Why are all these Muslims hanging around? There's no need to make things worse.' In my eyes he's correct, if they weren't there and the EDL still kicked off there's no excuses at all. Both groups were as bad as eachother yesterday, there's elements of both groups who just go out looking for trouble.
purpleronnie Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Not really, I don't see 100's of muslims piling into coaches and trains and going off to mainly white areas looking for trouble.
Guest Bilo Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 I have nothing to do with the EDL or UAF, but isn't tarring all the EDL members as 'drunken thugs' the same as saying all Muslims are extremists? On another note, I had to drive through the outskirts of town yesterday with my mate who is a Muslim. The first thing he said was 'Why are all these Muslims hanging around? There's no need to make things worse.' In my eyes he's correct, if they weren't there and the EDL still kicked off there's no excuses at all. Both groups were as bad as eachother yesterday, there's elements of both groups who just go out looking for trouble. No it isn't the same. The EDL are the equivalent of the Muslim dickheads who protested at the Royal Anglian Regiment's homecoming in Luton. It would be fair to say that all those Muslims are extremists but not to say all Muslims per se are. Stating that members of a group with a deserved reputation for racism and violence are extremists is not the same as saying all 3 million adherents to the UK's second most practiced religion are. The MDL are little better as anybody unfortunate enough to be mistaken by them for an EDLer will testify but if you mean the UAF behaved as badly as the EDL yesterday, I would say you obviously weren't there or have spoken to anybody who was there. It was a carnival atmosphere on the UAF side on the whole with some really friendly and decent people from all communities of Leicester. Even so, the MDL would not have been out looking for blood if the EDL hadn't been in town so while they are twats, think about why they were there in the first place.
Nick Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 I have nothing to do with the EDL or UAF, but isn't tarring all the EDL members as 'drunken thugs' the same as saying all Muslims are extremists? On another note, I had to drive through the outskirts of town yesterday with my mate who is a Muslim. The first thing he said was 'Why are all these Muslims hanging around? There's no need to make things worse.' In my eyes he's correct, if they weren't there and the EDL still kicked off there's no excuses at all. Both groups were as bad as eachother yesterday, there's elements of both groups who just go out looking for trouble. True, however one group are intruding on the peaceful with an aggressive and violent intent. The other are being oppressed and standing against the oppressors (rightly or wrongly in terms of making a judgement on this) Secondly, the EDL are drunken thugs. Pick a video on youtube and see for yourself. This is nothing like making a sweeping statement regarding the beliefs and intentions of those who embrace the Muslim faith. In fact that comparison is not just laughable, it's nothing more than stupid and senseless. Lastly, in the face of racism and ignorance, it takes a great deal of life experience, judgement and self control to prepare and deliver an appropriate and effective behavioural response. It is only natural and normal that not everybody will respond in a non confrontational fashion and I do not blame people for turning out to face their oppressors though agree that direct action is not always the path forward though it is the most accessible path for many to demonstrate their disgust for this group of violent nationalist extremists. N.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Can someone please just explain to me how going to random places around the country, getting pissed and shouting 'allah is a peado' is protecting us from extremists?
Bugg Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 Okay, just thought I'd drag this video up that was on here earlier: Oh, wait a minute, that's matey in the picture of the WDL who is also part of the EDL. But the EDL can't be racist because they have that Abdul bloke who is like a top man there, right? No, turns out he's just as much of a bigoted **** as the rest of them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kL_URt4uo&feature=related I rest my case.
Koke Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 I have nothing to do with the EDL or UAF, but isn't tarring all the EDL members as 'drunken thugs' the same as saying all Muslims are extremists? On another note, I had to drive through the outskirts of town yesterday with my mate who is a Muslim. The first thing he said was 'Why are all these Muslims hanging around? There's no need to make things worse.' In my eyes he's correct, if they weren't there and the EDL still kicked off there's no excuses at all. Both groups were as bad as eachother yesterday, there's elements of both groups who just go out looking for trouble. He has a point. It doesn't help the situation. But EDL are worse. They go from city to city and terrorise people and cause mayhem in communities. All week I was telling the Asian lads to stay inside and don't get involved, because all it will do is add more fuel to the fire.
Samilktray Posted 10 October 2010 Posted 10 October 2010 It makes me sick seeing folk doing the Nazi salute thing. Vile wastemanz. Thats my 1 serious post for the week done.
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