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Since the Championship/Division 1/Division 2 became a 24-team division (88-89 season), the average points for certain positions has been as follows;

1st 93 points

2nd 85 points

6th 74 points

21st 49 points

Our average points accrual so far this season will take us to 75.

Leicester City have never failed to make at least 6th place when they've had 46 points or more after 33 games;

1991 - 92; after 33 games, 8th position, 52 points, 44 goals scored, +3 GD; end of season, 4th position, 77 points, 62 goals scored +7 GD (lost play-off final)

1992 - 93; after 33 games, 7th position, 52 points, 48 goals scored, +5 GD; end of season, 6th position, 76 points, 71 goals scored +7 GD (lost play-off final)

1993 - 94; after 33 games, 2nd position, 57 points, 54 goals scored, +15 GD; end of season, 4th position, 73 points, 72 goals scored +13 GD (won play-off final)

1995 - 96; after 33 games, 10th position, 46 points, 49 goals scored, +2 GD; end of season, 5th position, 71 points, 66 goals scored +6 GD (won play-off final)

2002 - 03; after 33 games, 2nd position, 68 points, 56 goals scored, +26 GD; end of season, 2nd position, 92 points, 73 goals scored +33 GD (auto promo)

Yeah, I know - I need to get out more.

Posted
Since the Championship/Division 1/Division 2 became a 24-team division (88-89 season), the average points for certain positions has been as follows;

1st 93 points

2nd 85 points

6th 74 points

21st 49 points

Our average points accrual so far this season will take us to 75.

Leicester City have never failed to make at least 6th place when they've had 46 points or more after 33 games;

1991 - 92; after 33 games, 8th position, 52 points, 44 goals scored, +3 GD; end of season, 4th position, 77 points, 62 goals scored +7 GD (lost play-off final)

1992 - 93; after 33 games, 7th position, 52 points, 48 goals scored, +5 GD; end of season, 6th position, 76 points, 71 goals scored +7 GD (lost play-off final)

1993 - 94; after 33 games, 2nd position, 57 points, 54 goals scored, +15 GD; end of season, 4th position, 73 points, 72 goals scored +13 GD (won play-off final)

1995 - 96; after 33 games, 10th position, 46 points, 49 goals scored, +2 GD; end of season, 5th position, 71 points, 66 goals scored +6 GD (won play-off final)

2002 - 03; after 33 games, 2nd position, 68 points, 56 goals scored, +26 GD; end of season, 2nd position, 92 points, 73 goals scored +33 GD (auto promo)

Yeah, I know - I need to get out more.

Blimey We only came 2nd with 92 points. Pompey must have got a hell of a lot points that season?

Interesting statistics there. looks promising indeed.

Posted

That's decent IoWf, thanks

What was the lowest number of points required for automatic promotion by any team since it became a 24 team league? Any idea?

Posted
That's decent IoWf, thanks

What was the lowest number of points required for automatic promotion by any team since it became a 24 team league? Any idea?

79 points was the lowest number of points scored by the teams in second place in seasons 94-95, 95-96 and 07-08.

However in those seasons, the third place team scored 77, 75 and 75 points respectively.

In season 93-94, the third placed team only scored 74 points.

Therefore the lowest points score that would have been required to gain automatic promotion would have been 75, in season 93-94.

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Blimey We only came 2nd with 92 points. Pompey must have got a hell of a lot points that season?

Interesting statistics there. looks promising indeed.

96 I think.

Edit. 98 even.

Posted
96 I think.

Edit. 98 even.

Cheers for the info. That is pretty good going.

Has anyone got any idea of what the lowest amounts of points we have been promoted from this division with is?

Posted
Cheers for the info. That is pretty good going.

Has anyone got any idea of what the lowest amounts of points we have been promoted from this division with is?

Since the format changed to 46 games, we were promoted with 71 points in season 95-96 via the play-offs (and Stevie's shin!)

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Since the format changed to 46 games, we were promoted with 71 points in season 95-96 via the play-offs (and Stevie's shin!)

Ah ha. Yes remember my dad telling me about that play off win. Cheers again for the info :thumbup:

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Bump (flick-on header, rather)

I stumbled across this today: Leicester are ranked the 26th-best team among the top 128 English football clubs from 2005/6 to 2009/10, according to this complicated formula.

A little irrevelevant background info on this "Voros" McCracken guy (skip the next three paragraphs if you hate baseball, hate stats or become bored easily):

McCracken is a baseball stathead (that, it seems, has switched his focus from America's national pastime to the association game). Back in 1999, McCracken started posting on newsgroups about some research he'd done over the past few years about baseball pitchers--particularly, when/why they can have fluke great seasons and/or fluke horrible seasons. He pretty much narrowed his data set to include only instances where a batter hits the ball in play and further, if the play is neither a home run nor a foul ball (possibly-flawed cricket analogy: whenever a batsman hits the ball but doesn't hit a sixer). McCracken's research showed that 1) the results of these plays are out of the pitcher's control and 2) one can almost always determine whether a pitcher's success is due, to oversimplify the argument, to good luck or bad luck if the total average results of these plays (a pitcher's Batting Average of Balls in Play, or BABIP, against) is higher or lower than a normal BABIP (usually around .300).

While other sabermetricians have since figured out that really awesome pitchers can influence the results of these batted balls in their favor (to a debatable extent), McCracken's work on Defense-Independent Pitching Statistics (or, as you all know them, DIPS) is regarded by statheads to have been the most important piece of baseball statistics research since the '70s.

If you think McCracken seems like kind of guy that would fit the living-in-his-mother's-basement stereotype, well... he actually was living in his mother's basement when he was doing all of this. Smart dude, though. A few years later, the Boston Red Sox came calling and hired him as a consultant--now, that's movin' up. I'm not sure where the great Voros dwells now--however, in this case, I do doubt the Everton or Spurs or whatever brass will invite him for an interview anytime soon. For the record, I may myself seem like I live in mom's basement by posting this, I actually live in a three-bedroom apartment with two other fellow twentysomethings (close enough).

Anyway, here's what's really important about this table:

26. Leicester City

31. Nottingham Forest

44. Derby County

45. Coventry City

127. Droylsden

128. Lewes

Posted

Bump (flick-on header, rather)

I stumbled across this today: Leicester are ranked the 26th-best team among the top 128 English football clubs from 2005/6 to 2009/10, according to this complicated formula.

A little irrevelevant background info on this "Voros" McCracken guy (skip the next three paragraphs if you hate baseball, hate stats or become bored easily):

McCracken is a baseball stathead (that, it seems, has switched his focus from America's national pastime to the association game). Back in 1999, McCracken started posting on newsgroups about some research he'd done over the past few years about baseball pitchers--particularly, when/why they can have fluke great seasons and/or fluke horrible seasons. He pretty much narrowed his data set to include only instances where a batter hits the ball in play and further, if the play is neither a home run nor a foul ball (possibly-flawed cricket analogy: whenever a batsman hits the ball but doesn't hit a sixer). McCracken's research showed that 1) the results of these plays are out of the pitcher's control and 2) one can almost always determine whether a pitcher's success is due, to oversimplify the argument, to good luck or bad luck if the total average results of these plays (a pitcher's Batting Average of Balls in Play, or BABIP, against) is higher or lower than a normal BABIP (usually around .300).

While other sabermetricians have since figured out that really awesome pitchers can influence the results of these batted balls in their favor (to a debatable extent), McCracken's work on Defense-Independent Pitching Statistics (or, as you all know them, DIPS) is regarded by statheads to have been the most important piece of baseball statistics research since the '70s.

If you think McCracken seems like kind of guy that would fit the living-in-his-mother's-basement stereotype, well... he actually was living in his mother's basement when he was doing all of this. Smart dude, though. A few years later, the Boston Red Sox came calling and hired him as a consultant--now, that's movin' up. I'm not sure where the great Voros dwells now--however, in this case, I do doubt the Everton or Spurs or whatever brass will invite him for an interview anytime soon. For the record, I may myself seem like I live in mom's basement by posting this, I actually live in a three-bedroom apartment with two other fellow twentysomethings (close enough).

Anyway, here's what's really important about this table:

26. Leicester City

31. Nottingham Forest

44. Derby County

45. Coventry City

127. Droylsden

128. Lewes

I went to lewes once, can't remember if its pronounced 'Loos' or 'lewis'.

bloody good football team though, they were awsome in europe last season weren't they? (!!!!!!!)

are Croft f.c. above them?

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I went to lewes once, can't remember if its pronounced 'Loos' or 'lewis'.

bloody good football team though, they were awsome in europe last season weren't they? (!!!!!!!)

are Croft f.c. above them?

Lewis.

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