Shitty Twats

[Matty_89]

Sad.

It take some very pathetic and disgraceful people; who lack completely in morals, to do such a thing. The sooner caught the better, not that much will be done to them mind you...

My thoughts are with everyone affected by this mindless, moronic act.

[lou]

My condolences to Backinthebigtime, you and your mother have enough to deal with at this difficult time without having this to contend with as well.

The pathetic morons that did this will hopefully be caught and punished but I have my doubts as to whether that will happen. I am not normally a fan of the big brother society but is there CCTV footage of this area or its approaches?

On DanLFC's point about names not being released for legal reasons that usually only applies to where it is children who are involved and there is definately less to be gained from pillorying kids when there may be some hope for redemption for them when they mature. Never the less in general one of the strenghts of our legal system is that accused and convicted convicted people are named, although whether some of then feel any shame is very debatable.

Cutting pieces off offenders is a touch severe for me but a severe dose of peer pressure from the whole LCFC community e.g. by being paraded in handcuffs (and some stewards as security for their own safety) at half time at a home game as suggested by another poster does appeal to me as a suitable way of expressing our abhorrence of this behaviour without getting too medieval about it.

There is CCTV footage and they were kids... as per DavieGs post

[purpleronnie]

So f**ck ed of with this this morning,

lost my Father suddenly 10 days ago,

We have the funeral this comming Tuesday and it is my Mums wish to have Dads ashes scattered at the garden and have arrranged it with the club, who incidently have been brilliant, organising get well cards from the players when he was first taken ill , for this comming Friday...ifthese people could of seen the anger and upset on my Mums face when I had to tell herwhat had happened I hope they would have been truley ashamed...but somehow I doubt it.......complete bastards.

RIP Malc Colwell

Sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts are with you and yours.

[Orkneyfox]

There is CCTV footage and they were kids... as per DavieGs post

[Shrenchel]

The day I hear this case become "can't be named for legal reasons" is the day I lose that last 0.01% faith I currently have in the UK's Legal System.

If reports of them being 13 are right, the UK's legal system is one of very few in the western world that could charge them with any kind of criminal offence at all, never mind publically releasing their identities.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

So f**ck ed of with this this morning,

lost my Father suddenly 10 days ago,

We have the funeral this comming Tuesday and it is my Mums wish to have Dads ashes scattered at the garden and have arrranged it with the club, who incidently have been brilliant, organising get well cards from the players when he was first taken ill , for this comming Friday...ifthese people could of seen the anger and upset on my Mums face when I had to tell herwhat had happened I hope they would have been truley ashamed...but somehow I doubt it.......complete bastards.

RIP Malc Colwell

I can only imagine how you must feel, and the pain and anguish that has been heightened by this atrocious act of indecency. Those who committed this act, are at the very best, cowards.

My thoughts go out to you, and those of your family.

[Karljohn]

My brother in law ashes are scattered at the memorial garden and we have a plaque on the stone down there, just returned from my summer hols to find this disturbing news.

Hope the bastards who did it are proud of themselves, particularly when my bro in law left a 15 year old son (same age as the suspected culprits)

Scum of the earth.

[davieG]

From the Merc:

Memorial vandals 'are sorry'

Five boys responsible for vandalising the Walkers Stadium's memorial garden have been told of the heartache their actions caused.

The boys – aged 11 to 13 – met police and club officials at the garden at Leicester City's ground, and were spoken to by club ambassador Alan Birchenall and Pc Dave McCartney.

The boys were captured on CCTV entering the stadium car park on June 3, and damaging the memorial garden.

Police took the CCTV to local schools, where teachers identified the boys.

Mr Birchenall said: "The boys came down to the stadium with their families and I gave them a rollicking in no uncertain terms.

"I told them they should be grateful they haven't got a criminal record, and then we took a walk down to the memorial garden.

"I made them read some of the plaques and they brought a bunch of flowers to put down.

"I saw genuine remorse from the boys and their families were totally shocked and apologetic.

"I think at the end of the day this was the best way to deal with it."

The move was part of the police's increasing use of restorative justice for minor crimes.

[Collymore]

"The move was part of the police's increasing use of restorative justice for minor crimes."

minor crime? Sums up everything wrong with this country

[Zingari]

I'm genuinely shocked

Is this true ?

Have the police have actually caught someone comitting a crime ?

[Fosse Boy]

So in the police's eyes someone having a few beers at the football is more of a crime than this?

This ****ing country.

[Webbo]

The boys – aged 11 to 13

We're all a bit twattish at that age. It was a shitty thing to do but they don't deserve a criminal record at their age for that.

[Bellend Sebastian]

We're all a bit twattish at that age. It was a shitty thing to do but they don't deserve a criminal record at their age for that.

I honestly think a Birchenall 'rollicking' has got as much chance of stopping these kids getting into more trouble than having them go through the courts, which wouldn't be able to impose much of a sentence anyway. I know a lot of people think that if it doesn't involve fifty lashes or being locked in a room without natural daylight for years on end it isn't justice, but if these kids have had some insight into the hurt they've caused and feel some actual guilt and remorse then that's to be a good motivator for staying out of trouble

[samjohnson]

Birch should have shown some of the messages at the beggining of this thread...

[Bellend Sebastian]

Birch should have shown some of the messages at the beggining of this thread...

I expect the feelings of those that contacted the club over it will have been communicated to them, if not by Birch then by the Old Bill

[AoWW]

Could they not do some sort of community service - maintaining the garden over the summer, or something? Perhaps then they'd realise how much time and effort goes into it, and how much it means to some people.

[Callabinho]

Makes you sick ! I hope those responcible get what they deserve ! Hartless tossers !

[DB11]

Makes you sick ! I hope those responcible get what they deserve ! Hartless tossers !

Not read what happened or something?

[Rich Fox]

Not to happy that they were taken back to the memorial garden where my uncle Len is, hope they did not read his message out they should be nowhere near the place. They should be given some community punishment well away from the memorial garden.

[Guest Bilo]

I honestly think a Birchenall 'rollicking' has got as much chance of stopping these kids getting into more trouble than having them go through the courts, which wouldn't be able to impose much of a sentence anyway. I know a lot of people think that if it doesn't involve fifty lashes or being locked in a room without natural daylight for years on end it isn't justice, but if these kids have had some insight into the hurt they've caused and feel some actual guilt and remorse then that's to be a good motivator for staying out of trouble

Yeah I agree, especially at that age.

They probably thought it was a bit of fun and it'd make them look hard, but a rollicking from a relative of one of those commemorated at the garden and someone as well respected as the Birch will make them realise they were being arseholes. I wouldn't mind seeing them made to repair the damage they caused or help to maintain the garden for a few hours over the summer to make them see how much hard work goes into its upkeep though.

[lcfc_jme]

Yeah I agree, especially at that age.

They probably thought it was a bit of fun and it'd make them look hard, but a rollicking from a relative of one of those commemorated at the garden and someone as well respected as the Birch will make them realise they were being arseholes. I wouldn't mind seeing them made to repair the damage they caused or help to maintain the garden for a few hours over the summer to make them see how much hard work goes into its upkeep though.

Funnily enough, I can't see this being true if I'm honest mate. "Someone as well respected as the Birch"?! My arse. I bet they don't even know who "the Birch" is. Making them both repair the garden and maintain it over the summer would be perfectly fine, but if all they've had is that "telling off" from somebody they a) have no connection to and b) no respect for, I can't see it making them better people either in the short or long term.

[Guest Bilo]

Funnily enough, I can't see this being true if I'm honest mate. "Someone as well respected as the Birch"?! My arse. I bet they don't even know who "the Birch" is. Making them both repair the garden and maintain it over the summer would be perfectly fine, but if all they've had is that "telling off" from somebody they a) have no connection to and b) no respect for, I can't see it making them better people either in the short or long term.

Fair.

Kind of mixing up the potential effectiveness of this due to their age with them actually having a fvcking clue who Birch is.

I'd definitely go for making them repair the garden though, I still think that would be more effective than any other punishment they could dish out.

[lou]

We're all a bit twattish at that age. It was a shitty thing to do but they don't deserve a criminal record at their age for that.

I honestly think a Birchenall 'rollicking' has got as much chance of stopping these kids getting into more trouble than having them go through the courts, which wouldn't be able to impose much of a sentence anyway. I know a lot of people think that if it doesn't involve fifty lashes or being locked in a room without natural daylight for years on end it isn't justice, but if these kids have had some insight into the hurt they've caused and feel some actual guilt and remorse then that's to be a good motivator for staying out of trouble

Could they not do some sort of community service - maintaining the garden over the summer, or something? Perhaps then they'd realise how much time and effort goes into it, and how much it means to some people.

As someone who has a friend remembered in there I actually think it was the best way to handle it given the age of the boys responsible. Yes it was a callous and heartless thing to do but they were 11-13 ffs! they really dont consider the effects their actions would have at that age, not to the extent an adult would. I can remember doing some really stupid things when I was 11/12 (more dangerous than malicious I hasten to add) but the fact is kids of that age dont think all the time & Im sure they would have been made very aware of the effects of their actions on people. I personally would have made them apologise in person to some of the families who have memorials in there, if any of the families would have been willing to do so. Would have hit home even more. Im sure they are all genuinely sorry and am pretty sure The Birch wouldnt have let them get away lightly! Also agree they should be made to do some voluntary work around the ground perhaps but I wouldnt want them anywhere near that garden again to be honest. <_<

Kids are kids though at the end of the day and it doesnt mean theyre inherently evil for goodness sake.