markbsac Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 I hope peter taylor enjoys reading that article..........
Bellend Sebastian Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 Ian Walker was alright, and I think Matthew Jones would probably have been pretty good if he hadn't have got injured. I'm no Taylor apologist but the fact that it was the golden age of shit players being massively over-valued (Seth Johnson for £7 million, anyone?) didn't help, and most of the players came to us with good reputations. Walsh's assertion that Collymore was forced out contradicts what Taylor said at the time, which is that the plan was for a Collymore/Akinbiyi strikeforce, with sad cow eyed Trev being signed 'for the future'. I think he was a bit of a div for not anticipating that Stan would throw his toys out of the pram and bugger off, because that's what he'd always done prior to that. The departure of Neil Lennon was a killer blow that I think any team would have struggled to get over too. Cottee and Walsh might have done OK, we'll never know, but judging by the number of managerial and coaching roles the two have enjoyed since, the football world didn't share their optimism. The Taylor set up was doing alright, until that bloody game against Wycombe
Corky Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 The departure of Neil Lennon was a killer blow that I think any team would have struggled to get over too. .The Taylor set up was doing alright, until that bloody game against Wycombe Agree with both of these. Lennon was a quality player who we missed badly. The week before we'd beaten Liverpool, fifth in the league, quarter-finals of the cup and a home draw, things were looking great.
markbsac Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 Agree with both of these. Lennon was a quality player who we missed badly. The week before we'd beaten Liverpool, fifth in the league, quarter-finals of the cup and a home draw, things were looking great. i cant remember the date but i pinned up a prem league table at work as we had a sheep shagger working with us.......city were top derby were bottom...it looked so good
Bettsj2 Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 Agreed. Cottee for the tactics, Walsh for the team spirit - everyone continuing their roles from the MON reign, would've been more straightforward. With a few signings from players that they knew and respected - it might've ended up like a pub team, but they would've done a job and not lose to Wycombe... and get relegated. All those blogs about the former managers have been good, but this one is epic - I bet he's held back more for his book! Chris Sutton. I want to know who else was on that list. They would have been a mint management partnership at the time and would certainly have kept us in a better position than PT.
Guest DavidJCW Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 You could look back and now say that Cottee and Walsh, who haven't ever been in management, would have been crap for us, but I think it would have been very different back then. 1. They knew the whole team and how they played so would have kept the same sort of style going. 2. I think a lot of players who eventually did leave would have stayed and therefore kept the nucleus of the team. 3. The team spirit would have been kept as there wouldn't be wholesale changes like there were under Taylor. As for my views on Taylor... well I can barely write or speak his name without it making me feel physically sick... that twat completely ruined our club and is the sole reason for us having been in the positions we have over the last few seasons. I'm glad he's been managing in the lower leagues as that's the only place for him. Shit players signed, awful man management, dreadful tactics, money wasted left, right and centre and an idiotic self belief when things really started to go dreadfully wrong. The day we signed him as manager was the day this club started it's decline and coming up to 10 years later, we're still recovering.
lookwhaticando Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 Interesting insight into the Peter Taylor scene. But, more importantly, what does Walshy make of the new kit?
ousefox Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 A Steve Walsh autobiography, definitely looking forward to that.
Webbo Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 Walsh doesn't seem to think that he was in anyway even slightly responsible for his exit from the club. He obviously hadn't heard any of the rumours going around at the time.
carterfox90 Posted 9 July 2010 Posted 9 July 2010 just read the whole lot of them-great stories from the great man who showed he was a leicester fan who played his heart out in most games i will always remember him scoring in that great 3-3 against arsenal & the winner at wembley what a great leicester legend
dave the caveman Posted 10 July 2010 Posted 10 July 2010 Seems like a self-obsessed, arrogant willy puller, to be honest, and not knowing the difference between 'then' and 'than' certainly doesn't inspire confidence in his ability to write a good book. You've got legendary status, Walshy, even though I don't think anybody is quite sure why. Don't be greedy and ruin it.
foxoffderby Posted 10 July 2010 Posted 10 July 2010 Seems like a self-obsessed, arrogant willy puller, to be honest, and not knowing the difference between 'then' and 'than' certainly doesn't inspire confidence in his ability to write a good book. You've got legendary status, Walshy, even though I don't think anybody is quite sure why. Don't be greedy and ruin it. What are you on about Steve Walsh is a legend at the club, and I for one cant wait to read his book.... I've watched him when he first started out at theclub to the great captain he became. Have you? The bloke wore his heart on his sleave and gave it his all every game for us. I've met him a few times and hes a top bloke. Although Taylor ruined the club the chairman\directors must also take some of the blame for getting Taylor in the first place and giving him an open cheque book.
Rich Fox Posted 10 July 2010 Posted 10 July 2010 Seems like a self-obsessed, arrogant willy puller, to be honest, and not knowing the difference between 'then' and 'than' certainly doesn't inspire confidence in his ability to write a good book. You've got legendary status, Walshy, even though I don't think anybody is quite sure why. Don't be greedy and ruin it. Washie was a winner and if he was arrogant so be it, think you have to be a bit selfish and arrogant to get to the top in football. You can bet Martin oneill was arrogant as were plenty of top players and managers over the years. You cant really be a fan calling Walshie a willy puller after all he did for the city. Did you not enjoy beating Derby at wembley or watching us win the league cup twice or that classic 3 3 come back at home to Arsenal?
Salieri Posted 10 July 2010 Posted 10 July 2010 Love him or loathe him, the guy spent 14 years at our club, and deserves respect. In today's climate the chances of a player spending that long at a club is very rare.. I have many great memories of Walshy's time at the club and if he's a bit arrogant so what? He loves the club and i still miss his sheer will to win on the pitch. What he lacked in ability he made up 1000X over by his never say die attitude. I wish we could find a role for him at the club, i'm sure it wouldn't hurt adding him to the coaching staff.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 10 July 2010 Posted 10 July 2010 I remember actually being really excited when Dennis Wise signed for us.
CosbehFox Posted 12 July 2010 Posted 12 July 2010 The week before we'd beaten Liverpool, fifth in the league, quarter-finals of the cup and a home draw, things were looking great. It was about the only time at school no-one could challenge me about City. We'd been top, we were beating top sides on a more consistent basis and were outsiders for a Champions League spot. However, we knew the signs were there when I watched us at Arsenal, Boxing Day hammered 6-1 and it was well deserved but I think Taggart got injured, we had Jones playing centre half for 60 plus and a bench full of strikers who couldn't bag. Week after Wycombe we also went Old Trafford were unlucky to lose 2-0 but a reet awful side out, Ellison got a run-out. Chris Sutton. I want to know who else was on that list. They would have been a mint management partnership at the time and would certainly have kept us in a better position than PT. Cottee's managerial spell at Barnet was a disaster and it's more than often that when someone is expected to go from chum/colleague to manager/displicine, it never works. Taylor looked a clever appointment at the time. I'd say he's a good coach but a woeful manager. I wish we could find a role for him at the club, i'm sure it wouldn't hurt adding him to the coaching staff. Let's not forgot the occasional mishap in terms of team spirit he used to cause having his way with team-mate's partners etc. I won't argue again but I have been at a charity event where everyone of his chums turned up and we're waiting around for him. He arrived at the very end of the occasion excused it on having too much drink and then his first act was buy himself a drink. It was no surprise that this year he wasn't invited back for the event and replaced.
Foxblogger Posted 12 July 2010 Posted 12 July 2010 Was I the only one who, after reading Walsh slag off Taylor for throwing money down the drain, raised an eyebrow at his top transfer target? In the season before O'Neil left Chris Sutton managed one league goal at Chelsea, not exactly dynamite.
foxoffderby Posted 12 July 2010 Posted 12 July 2010 Was I the only one who, after reading Walsh slag off Taylor for throwing money down the drain, raised an eyebrow at his top transfer target? In the season before O'Neil left Chris Sutton managed one league goal at Chelsea, not exactly dynamite. Horses for courses he had a great record for Norwich and formed the SAS partnership at Blackburn. He played well for Celtic too. Its all about ifs and buts, however cant help thinking if Sutton had signed what a partnesship with Collymore that would of been. I think he would of suited our direct style of play. But its all hearsay
Corky Posted 12 July 2010 Posted 12 July 2010 It was about the only time at school no-one could challenge me about City. We'd been top, we were beating top sides on a more consistent basis and were outsiders for a Champions League spot. However, we knew the signs were there when I watched us at Arsenal, Boxing Day hammered 6-1 and it was well deserved but I think Taggart got injured, we had Jones playing centre half for 60 plus and a bench full of strikers who couldn't bag. Same here. Was great to be near Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and their fans couldn't turn round and say "you're crap, you're nowhere near us". Our home form up to the Wycombe game was outstanding if I recall correctly, hardly lost a game at Filbert St but that day something wasn't right from the start.
wirralsimon Posted 13 July 2010 Posted 13 July 2010 Looking back at the Taylot era now I think much of the blame lies with the board at the time. Peter Taylor had never had a transfer budget of any decent size before he came to the club and the board should never have risked the whole future of the club by mortaging it to the hilt and beyond in the chase for some unachievable European dream Giving him millions to spend when he hadn't even demonstrated he could spend hundreds of thousands properly was a very silly thing to do. Sure Peter Taylor got it badly wrong. But if he hadn't been allowed to spend money we didn't have it would't have sent the club into a decade-long tailspin when the very existence of the club was under threat. Simon
Foxblogger Posted 13 July 2010 Posted 13 July 2010 It would surely have been quite difficult for the club to appoint Taylor and then veto his signings. John Elsom has stated in interviews at the time and since that the club felt they needed to back their man. It would have been incredibly difficult for the board not to double down on Taylor, to do otherwise would have effectively been a vote of no confidence. Of course we all see the folly of this now, but it was far from easy to make that call in late 2000 when Taylor had spent most of the money and the club was flirting with a European place.
wirralsimon Posted 13 July 2010 Posted 13 July 2010 It would surely have been quite difficult for the club to appoint Taylor and then veto his signings. John Elsom has stated in interviews at the time and since that the club felt they needed to back their man. It would have been incredibly difficult for the board not to double down on Taylor, to do otherwise would have effectively been a vote of no confidence. Of course we all see the folly of this now, but it was far from easy to make that call in late 2000 when Taylor had spent most of the money and the club was flirting with a European place. I do see what you are saying, but some of the dodgy dealings like taking out loans using the value of existing players as security were a bridge too far. I am not saying he shouldn't have been backed but a little more honesty about how far we were going to be in the sh*t financially as a result of the transfer spend would have saved a lot of aggro in the long run.
OzFox Posted 13 July 2010 Posted 13 July 2010 Walsh doesn't seem to think that he was in anyway even slightly responsible for his exit from the club. He obviously hadn't heard any of the rumours going around at the time. Remind me.....what were those rumours again?
samuel Posted 14 July 2010 Posted 14 July 2010 Oooh, An Autobiography by Steve Walsh, what a treat! You were got rid of because you were the bad apple Steve. Your boozy ways ever since have vindicated Peter Taylor somewhat. How many times have you been done for drink driving again? Please do a blog and remind us all how many businesses you have set up or been involved in, that still remain and are flourishing? That my friend will give you the answer as to why you were not boss, never will be a boss either! Steve Walsh was a LCFC stalwart but that doesn't give you any rights to be involved in another capacity with the club. Golfing holiday in Spain anyone?
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