Weale

[hackneyfox]

I'm here all season

[dandannieldanok]

As for funds, have you not heard about the takeover, I believe that comes under the heading 'drastic'.

Well if it does happen it's not a full takeover, in fact Mandaric will still be in charge. The change will not be drastic. And takeovers don't instantly mean we'll have a pot of gold to spend in the transfer window, until they do actually buy a stake in the club and announce their investment intentions, not one person can assume Sousa will have cash to spend. It's completely up in the air at the moment.

[hackneyfox]

Well if it does happen it's not a full takeover, in fact Mandaric will still be in charge. The change will not be drastic. And takeovers don't instantly mean we'll have a pot of gold to spend in the transfer window, until they do actually buy a stake in the club and announce their investment intentions, not one person can assume Sousa will have cash to spend. It's completely up in the air at the moment.

And no one person can assume that Weale will be our goalie for seasons to come let alone all of this one.

As Sousa seemed happy to let Weale go should West Ham have offered enough then it may mean that he doesn't rate him that highly.

You mention that it's completely up in the air at the moment, and people shouldn't assume that Sousa will have cash to spend yet you seem to have assumed that the change will not be drastic.

Money will apparently be available to spend.

[dandannieldanok]

And no one person can assume that Weale will be our goalie for seasons to come let alone all of this one.

As Sousa seemed happy to let Weale go should West Ham have offered enough then it may mean that he doesn't rate him that highly.

You mention that it's completely up in the air at the moment, and people shouldn't assume that Sousa will have cash to spend yet you seem to have assumed that the change will not be drastic.

Money will apparently be available to spend.

Well Weale is our literal number 1 and we only have Logan to compete with him so I'd happily wager with you that he'll play the majority, if not all of our games this season. Of course it's wrong for me to assume that he'll be number 1 for seasons to come, but as it stands, there is more chance of that than the club suddenly being able to splash millions about in the transfer market.

The change cannot be drastic if Mandaric is still going to be holding the biggest stake, he'll still get the final say on everything just like he does know. Drastic change would be for a complete change of ownership and a new man/group at the helm (or at least a majority stake).

[Fox92]

I might've known Fox92 would bowl up in this thread before long

I couldn't resist.

Well, what did I say last year? I got slated by most people on here when I had a go at Chris Weale, now look at this thread!

Anyway, if anybody is looking for a better keeper, take a look at Joe Murphy at S****horpe. I think he's the best keeper in the division.

[hackneyfox]

If Mandaric holds 51% and someone else is pending their own cash why would he say no.

51% of a premiership club is a lot more than 51% of a Championship club.

You have as much idea of what will happen as the rest of us, very little, if that.

But I don't believe that someone with no ties to the city will pay millions to own 49% of it and then not spend more to get us promoted.

The takeover is being done for one or both of 2 reasons, to make money or to raise their profile by owning an English side.

Both of these will only come about through promotion to the Premier league.

Promotion will only come about through spending money.

[dandannieldanok]

If Mandaric holds 51% and someone else is pending their own cash why would he say no.

51% of a premiership club is a lot more than 51% of a Championship club.

You have as much idea of what will happen as the rest of us, very little, if that.

But I don't believe that someone with no ties to the city will pay millions to own 49% of it and then not spend more to get us promoted.

The takeover is being done for one or both of 2 reasons, to make money or to raise their profile by owning an English side.

Both of these will only come about through promotion to the Premier league.

Promotion will only come about through spending money.

I hope you're right I really do, I hope they do come in and spend money but I'm a glass half-empty man, especially when it comes to things like this. Until the deal is done and Sousa is given the chequebook, I have major reservations about all of this.

[martyn]

Weale was fantastic for 2/3 of a season, iffy for 1/3.

1 poor game at the start of the new season and suddenly he's been crap all along? Give me a break, the told you so merchants will soon be quiet once he starts pulling off saves again to win us points.

[OutFoxing-Cov-Since1884]

I couldn't resist.

Well, what did I say last year? I got slated by most people on here when I had a go at Chris Weale, now look at this thread!

Anyway, if anybody is looking for a better keeper, take a look at Joe Murphy at S****horpe. I think he's the best keeper in the division.

Good shout! Forgot about him.

P.S. I've thought the same about him since probably about the Ipswich game on TV when Ryan McS***ern scored that OG! So I'm with you on this opinion mate. Just know that, that probably like you, we'll just get critised for this opinion!

[VampLCFC]

I think for the majority of the second half of last season, certainly the last third of the season, Weale was very shaky, gets beat easily from distance, let's in weak goals, he seems to just lose concentration sometimes

I think the howler at Derby was a freak occurrance, but he flaps a lot at crosses/corners, often looks very uncomfortable with back passes and doesn't scream commands at his defenders like he should

Just look at the last two games alone, couldve done better with the first Sunderland goal, obviously their second was a bit of a howler, shouldve saved the second Palace goal and flapped at the third

Also noticed he's started charging out of his area a lot and even heading the ball, ok sometimes this is unavoidable due to our defence going walkabouts, but can be very dangerous

The first half of the season he was mostly excellent, but his form certainly faded later on, I can't help but feel nervous any time an opposition player prepares to shoot from 20-30 yards, I can just see it going in

He's proved to us he is a decent keeper and can make some cracking saves, he's just not performing as good as he can for some reason, Blackpool away is a classic example, he was superb

COME ON WEALE, SORT IT OUT!!

[dandannieldanok]

Good shout! Forgot about him.

P.S. I've thought the same about him since probably about the Ipswich game on TV when Ryan McS***ern scored that OG! So I'm with you on this opinion mate. Just know that, that probably like you, we'll just get critised for this opinion!

You shouldn't get criticised, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I've never been as massive a fan of Weale as a lot of people are, but I personally think he's absolutely fine for the level we find ourselves at.

What gets me is that some people who are criticising Weale (not necessarily you), assume that we can just get a better keeper as easy as anything when in reality it would be very costly and there wouldn't be any guarantee they would be better anyway.

[The Doctor]

I didn't say he was a bad keeper, but if we want to do something this season I don't want a team full of players who aren't bad or who are adequate.

I want a team of good players and for me the goalie has always been one of the most important positions.

Why do you think Arsenal are rumoured to be willing to spend 25m on Reina?

Because Wenger realises the importance of a good goalie.

So weale is an adequate keeper - surely that means he's good enough for what we aim to achieve this season.

He was hardly a major culprit for the goals on saturday, the first was a missed header by hobbs then a strange mistake by morrison, The second neilson should have been out quicker to ambrose and the third - he made a good save and none of the defenders reacted at all.

He may have made a few mistakes (derby) but for the majority he's been solid, dependable and fairly consistant,

[OutFoxing-Cov-Since1884]

You shouldn't get criticised, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I've never been as massive a fan of Weale as a lot of people are, but I personally think he's absolutely fine for the level we find ourselves at.

What gets me is that some people who are criticising Weale (not necessarily you), assume that we can just get a better keeper as easy as anything when in reality it would be very costly and there wouldn't be any guarantee they would be better anyway.

Thanks mate and I know what you mean. It just hurts when some idiots say you have no idea what you're talking about/justification for your opinion!

[marbelladave]

I think for the majority of the second half of last season, certainly the last third of the season, Weale was very shaky, gets beat easily from distance, let's in weak goals, he seems to just lose concentration sometimes

I think the howler at Derby was a freak occurrance, but he flaps a lot at crosses/corners, often looks very uncomfortable with back passes and doesn't scream commands at his defenders like he should

Just look at the last two games alone, couldve done better with the first Sunderland goal, obviously their second was a bit of a howler, shouldve saved the second Palace goal and flapped at the third

Also noticed he's started charging out of his area a lot and even heading the ball, ok sometimes this is unavoidable due to our defence going walkabouts, but can be very dangerous

The first half of the season he was mostly excellent, but his form certainly faded later on, I can't help but feel nervous any time an opposition player prepares to shoot from 20-30 yards, I can just see it going in

He's proved to us he is a decent keeper and can make some cracking saves, he's just not performing as good as he can for some reason, Blackpool away is a classic example, he was superb

COME ON WEALE, SORT IT OUT!!

On the money, though whether he can 'sort it out' remains to be see.

I rate him as an above average Championship keeper but probably not among the divisions half dozen best.

If someone better is available for the right money then take him, if not keep working with Weale.

One point though, if the uncertainty at the center of our defense is primarily the keeper's fault, then a new one could make a huge difference!

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

From what I saw at Oxford, and again on Saturday, Weale and Hobbs are both liabilities, at this moment in time

[andy_croydz]

From what I saw at Oxford, and again on Saturday, Weale and Hobbs are both liabilities, at this moment in time

What did Weale do wrong on Saturday? Don't say he should have saved that Ambrose shot, in my opinion that is nonsense.

[hackneyfox]

The defence need to be better organised, a GOOD goalie would do that.

[Asha]

I gave Weale a personal vote of confidence after the Sunderland game, so he'll be fine.

I thought he had a very decent game on Saturday, it was those in front of him who let him down sadly. For instance, and I love a bit of Robbie, but he had a very poor game. And if you're all looking to target someone for Saturday, why look any further than Fryatt? His performance on Saturday was little short of disgusting, and he looked completely indecisive and uncomfortable. Still, I'm not suggesting we get rid of him, am I?

[hackneyfox]

So weale is an adequate keeper - surely that means he's good enough for what we aim to achieve this season.

He may have made a few mistakes (derby) but for the majority he's been solid, dependable and fairly consistant,

What do we aim to achieve this season?

[dandannieldanok]

The defence need to be better organised, a GOOD goalie would do that.

It's a good job we've got one then isn't it.

[hackneyfox]

I gave Weale a personal vote of confidence after the Sunderland game, so he'll be fine.

I thought he had a very decent game on Saturday, it was those in front of him who let him down sadly. For instance, and I love a bit of Robbie, but he had a very poor game. And if you're all looking to target someone for Saturday, why look any further than Fryatt? His performance on Saturday was little short of disgusting, and he looked completely indecisive and uncomfortable. Still, I'm not suggesting we get rid of him, am I?

Well I'd blame Morrison some way ahead of Fryatt.

And I am suggesting he be replaced by a more experienced CB who both Hobbs & Morrison can learn from.

[Suffolk_fox]

Same old same old.

You could replicate this thread and just change the name to any members of our squad and it would be applicable at some stage.

I will GUARANTEE that after a few clean sheets and the odd amazing save, most of the 'Anti Weale' posters on here will be knocking one out over videos of him on Youtube.

[hackneyfox]

It's a good job we've got one then isn't it.

As a reply to the previous point that makes no sense at all.

[hackneyfox]

Same old same old.

You could replicate this thread and just change the name to any members of our squad and it would be applicable at some stage.

I will GUARANTEE that after a few clean sheets and the odd amazing save, most of the 'Anti Weale' posters on here will be knocking one out over videos of him on Youtube.

Not me, I hope he improves and gets back his old form but he has never done enough for me to want to watch him on youtube.

At best he is an average championship goalie.

[fleckneymike]

At best he is an average championship goalie.

Got to agree with Hackney. I think people had got so used to Henderson and Logan that anything approaching adequacy in terms of goalkeeping was mistaken for genuine ability.

I'd level the same criticism at Hobbs, I think he's ok but the way some go on about him you'd think he was Premiership quality. Brown helped him so much last season, on his own he makes poor decisions positionally. He also offer no threat what so ever at set pieces, something he needs to improve on.