davieG Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging.
Cobbo Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. Nearly did davie, Tony James saved us remember Yes I'm not too confident of changing the manager brining any great success...unless they have some proven big shot lined up?
davieG Posted 26 September 2010 Author Posted 26 September 2010 Nearly did davie, Tony James saved us remember Yes I'm not too confident of changing the manager brining any great success...unless they have some proven big shot lined up? Yes remember it well meant to say edge of the abyss.
Cobbo Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Yes remember it well meant to say edge of the abyss. Oh I know you did, I was being a pedantic arse
Koke Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I feel like we are in 2007 again. New manager will get till Halloween before fans get on his back. Next one will get till Christmas before fans ask for him to be sacked. Football fans are a bunch of fickle and trigger-happy mugs.
davieG Posted 26 September 2010 Author Posted 26 September 2010 Oh I know you did, I was being a pedantic arse Not sure about the pedantic bit but the rest seems to fit
Edmund Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I feel like we are in 2007 again. New manager will get till Halloween before fans get on his back. Next one will get till Christmas before fans ask for him to be sacked. Football fans are a bunch of fickle and trigger-happy mugs. Completely different circumstances Kareem. I want stability as much as the next man but something has to give. Even in 2007 our club wasn't in this much disarray. The only mugs are the board for not keeping a relatively successful manager who led us to our most stable years since MON.
davieG Posted 26 September 2010 Author Posted 26 September 2010 I feel like we are in 2007 again. New manager will get till Halloween before fans get on his back. Next one will get till Christmas before fans ask for him to be sacked. Football fans are a bunch of fickle and trigger-happy mugs. [/quote This is it we can all be dissatisfied and pissed off but I just love the way so many assume it will automatically solve our current problems, if it does it will be purely down to luck and I can't say I've seen much of that with Mandaric's choice of Managers and this new lot seem to be looking for someone to make the front page of Hello magazine.
Corky Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm really not sure. Personally I don't see Sousa turning it round, because Friday's defeat was so damaging on the morale of the squad but would a new man be able to improve our situation?
Edmund Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 This is it we can all be dissatisfied and pissed off but I just love the way so many assume it will automatically solve our current problems, if it does it will be purely down to luck and I can't say I've seen much of that with Mandaric's choice of Managers and this new lot seem to be looking for someone to make the front page of Hello magazine. Luck?? You're having a laugh. Try telling the Norwich fans that replacing Bryan Gunn with Paul Lambert leading them to the league 1 title was luck, especially after their abysmal start.
Cat Burger Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. Brian Mcdermott did very well with Reading last year after the Sacking of Brendan Rodgers in December. A late play off push that just about fails would be okay for me right about now. They also look like they will be hovering in around that position for the rest of the season. Brian Mc was a caretaker manager who was eventually given the job even though he didn't start that well...Chrissy P to bring back some NP spirit anyone?
Webbo Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. Gordon Lee replaced Pleat and kept us up.
davieG Posted 26 September 2010 Author Posted 26 September 2010 Luck?? You're having a laugh. Try telling the Norwich fans that replacing Bryan Gunn with Paul Lambert leading them to the league 1 title was luck, especially after their abysmal start. Selecting any manager requires a great deal of luck for it to be successful, by the law of averages there's only so many that can be.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Kelly replacing Levein springs to mind?
Guest ttfn Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Kelly replacing Levein springs to mind? People forget what a cracking end we had to that season. Also, some have mentioned Sunderland 2006/7 as an indicator of how you can rise from bottom to top very fast. And it all happened after Niall Quinn stepped down as (a reluctant) manager and was replaced by Roy Keane.
Edmund Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Selecting any manager requires a great deal of luck for it to be successful, by the law of averages there's only so many that can be. Yep you're completely right. Any successful manager is based on the law of averages. How silly of me to think that tactics, player recruitment, coaching, sports science, team selections or anything football related was relevant.
Corky Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Kelly replacing Levein springs to mind? He moved us up six places in the three months in charge, but we all knew he wasn't a long-term manager.
unreachable Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. You might be being a little unfair to the memory of Matt Gillies. I thought he resigned but that may have been the public face of being sacked during a dissappointing start to the 1968/69 season when he had also being somewhat unwell. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-matt-gillies-1194992.html Finally, Gillies even left Leicester on a point of principle, resigning after the board had sacked his trusted coach, Bert Johnson, following a lean spell of results which was to culminate in relegation.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Nigel Worthington kept us up, in hindight he should have got the job ahead of Allen.
unreachable Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 Yep you're completely right. Any successful manager is based on the law of averages. How silly of me to think that tactics, player recruitment, coaching, sports science, team selections or anything football related was relevant. Spot on! Bill Shankly and Alex Ferguson are just lucky!
rabbid Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. There's examples outside the club, Pearson saving Southampton for one
Guest ttfn Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 He moved us up six places in the three months in charge, but we all knew he wasn't a long-term manager. At one point (before the pressure was off and we lost the last couple of games) he'd taken 30 points from 14 games.
Chrysalis Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 I'm finding it hard to remember it ever bringing any degree of success although some would say avoiding relegation would be a success. Frank O'Farrell for Matt Gillies got us to Wembley but we still got relegated David Pleat for Bryan Hamilton brought some respite but he eventually took us to the abyss that is League 3 Can't say before Matt Gillies but I think that's about it, not very encouraging. you dont rmemeber kelly improving our form after levein sacked?
Guest BlueBrett Posted 26 September 2010 Posted 26 September 2010 It's certainly risky getting rid of a manager mid campaign but I suppose the logic generally runs along the lines that things can't really get much worse. On balance I'd say if things clearly aren't working out it is probably better to make the switch during the season rather than waiting til the end and running the risk of a hangover carrying on into the following campaign. At least that way even if the initial season proves beyond salvage the new man can have very few excuses when the next one comes around.
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