I want us to lose to S****horpe

[Cunning Plan]

Baldrick laughs in your face

[Ozwin]

By getting another 0 points?

Better to get 0 points in 1 game than 0 points in the next 3 or 4.

Saying that I obviously want us to win, but it'll just be hiding the fact we've been wank all season.

[James.]

Hoping the owners see the bigger picture and don't rely on one result is the ideal situation, obviously. And if that's the case then a 3-0 win (to help the goal difference) and a goodbye to Sousa would be perfect.

I still stand by what I said earlier though. If it is all about the result (i.e. win he stays, lose he goes) then I would take the pain now as I believe (naively maybe) that our predicament would turn under someone like Curbishley/Pardew/whoever.

That doesn't make me a disgrace and it doesn't mean I should sod off and support someone else. As long as this view doesn't translate into booing at the match or anything like that then I see nothing wrong with it. It's all hypothetical anyway, so there's probably no point even talking about it.

[jimmer]

How many more ****tards are going to start utterly ridiculous threads. <_<

[Jackirius]

I want us to draw. Just to add an extra dimension to the argument.

[Kitchandro]

By getting another 0 points?

By the idea that if we get o points from the next game, we will get far more in the long run than if we got 3 points in the next game. It's the idea that you sacrifice 1 game to save your season.

I'm not saying if we lose Sousa will definately get the sack, or if he does get the sack the new manager will be better - these things are by no means certain and are obviously flaws in the argument.

But if he was sacked it would be hard for another manager to do worse. Wouldn't you rather lose the next game and avoid relegation than win it and get relegated?

Again, those are by no means the nailed on choices but you must see where they are coming from?

[caz05]

Oh and here was me worrying that the team would get lynched on saturday if we lost.

But by the sounds of it the fans will be cheering,should be a good atmosphere then

Surely nobody wants to see them lose

[CheshireFox]

How many more ****tards are going to start utterly ridiculous threads. <_<

i dont know, how many people are registered on here?

[wakeyfox01]

I'm quite frankly staggered at the idiocy that most seem to be showing on this forum at the minute! Wanting your team to lose? I always want the best from the team and will never boo or get on the back of anyone because what help does that do? Changing the manager and style of play will not guarentee anything. We played 4-4-2 and 'effective football' under Micky Adams and people were calling for his head saying how shit we were. We played it under Levein and look how effective that was, we played it under Kelly who himself got us in a relegation battle, although it worked in his first season. We played it under Holloway and went down. I'm not defending Sousa and know that results have not been good enough but most of the arguments against him are rubbish. 'He keeps playing players out of position', am I the only one who watched us last season and saw us regularly playing Waghorn on the right or left wing when we played 4-3-3/4-5-1 under Pearson, and this resulting in most of his best and exciting performances. Lets not forget he played up front on his own a lot as well and although he tried hard he looked lost. Everyone said you can't play him on his own and complained about the lack of outball and people are now saying play him through the middle? From what I have seen he is the only player you could argue is playing out of position in the team, so where are all these numerous others? Now after an entire summer of people talking up the morrison and hobbs partnership and demanding they play together when morrison was dropped at the start of the season, suddenly after a few poor performances we need Wayne Brown back and 'oh how we miss him'. I don't remember anyone being so effusive about him last year, he was the butt of many jokes and was not considered good enough. Suddenly people say Morrison is not a natural centre back and is a right back even though we signed him as a centre back and they were excited at the prospect of him playing there? Last year King was the anonymous man and not championship quality and never did anything, now he is essential and cannot be dropped and everyone is in uproar about Sousa dropping him, didn't he then go and have a run of scoring after being dropped? Sorry for the rant but Leicester fans are probably the most fickle in the country, get behind the lads, if we lose and Sousa goes so be it, but wanting us to lose so he goes is a ridiculous argument! We could win and go on a run, we could win and lose the next few, you can't predict what will happen.

[scatdoctor]

I'm quite frankly staggered at the idiocy that most seem to be showing on this forum at the minute! Wanting your team to lose? I always want the best from the team and will never boo or get on the back of anyone because what help does that do? Changing the manager and style of play will not guarentee anything. We played 4-4-2 and 'effective football' under Micky Adams and people were calling for his head saying how shit we were. We played it under Levein and look how effective that was, we played it under Kelly who himself got us in a relegation battle, although it worked in his first season. We played it under Holloway and went down. I'm not defending Sousa and know that results have not been good enough but most of the arguments against him are rubbish. 'He keeps playing players out of position', am I the only one who watched us last season and saw us regularly playing Waghorn on the right or left wing when we played 4-3-3/4-5-1 under Pearson, and this resulting in most of his best and exciting performances. Lets not forget he played up front on his own a lot as well and although he tried hard he looked lost. Everyone said you can't play him on his own and complained about the lack of outball and people are now saying play him through the middle? From what I have seen he is the only player you could argue is playing out of position in the team, so where are all these numerous others? Now after an entire summer of people talking up the morrison and hobbs partnership and demanding they play together when morrison was dropped at the start of the season, suddenly after a few poor performances we need Wayne Brown back and 'oh how we miss him'. I don't remember anyone being so effusive about him last year, he was the butt of many jokes and was not considered good enough. Suddenly people say Morrison is not a natural centre back and is a right back even though we signed him as a centre back and they were excited at the prospect of him playing there? Last year King was the anonymous man and not championship quality and never did anything, now he is essential and cannot be dropped and everyone is in uproar about Sousa dropping him, didn't he then go and have a run of scoring after being dropped? Sorry for the rant but Leicester fans are probably the most fickle in the country, get behind the lads, if we lose and Sousa goes so be it, but wanting us to lose so he goes is a ridiculous argument! We could win and go on a run, we could win and lose the next few, you can't predict what will happen.

Ikeme. Should be on the Wolves bench.

[wakeyfox01]

Ikeme. Should be on the Wolves bench.

That I do agree with

[Kitchandro]

I'm quite frankly staggered at the idiocy that most seem to be showing on this forum at the minute! Wanting your team to lose? I always want the best from the team and will never boo or get on the back of anyone because what help does that do? Changing the manager and style of play will not guarentee anything. We played 4-4-2 and 'effective football' under Micky Adams and people were calling for his head saying how shit we were. We played it under Levein and look how effective that was, we played it under Kelly who himself got us in a relegation battle, although it worked in his first season. We played it under Holloway and went down. I'm not defending Sousa and know that results have not been good enough but most of the arguments against him are rubbish. 'He keeps playing players out of position', am I the only one who watched us last season and saw us regularly playing Waghorn on the right or left wing when we played 4-3-3/4-5-1 under Pearson, and this resulting in most of his best and exciting performances. Lets not forget he played up front on his own a lot as well and although he tried hard he looked lost. Everyone said you can't play him on his own and complained about the lack of outball and people are now saying play him through the middle? From what I have seen he is the only player you could argue is playing out of position in the team, so where are all these numerous others? Now after an entire summer of people talking up the morrison and hobbs partnership and demanding they play together when morrison was dropped at the start of the season, suddenly after a few poor performances we need Wayne Brown back and 'oh how we miss him'. I don't remember anyone being so effusive about him last year, he was the butt of many jokes and was not considered good enough. Suddenly people say Morrison is not a natural centre back and is a right back even though we signed him as a centre back and they were excited at the prospect of him playing there? Last year King was the anonymous man and not championship quality and never did anything, now he is essential and cannot be dropped and everyone is in uproar about Sousa dropping him, didn't he then go and have a run of scoring after being dropped? Sorry for the rant but Leicester fans are probably the most fickle in the country, get behind the lads, if we lose and Sousa goes so be it, but wanting us to lose so he goes is a ridiculous argument! We could win and go on a run, we could win and lose the next few, you can't predict what will happen.

He was played on the left wing a bit, but not a lot. A lot of the time he partnered big Steve up front. And LEFT wing is important, he's left footed and being played the right. Up front in a 4-42 would clearly be beneficial to the team.

Morrison was playing right back last season, I could tell even then (as Pearson could) that he was not a centre back. Sousa's also played Moreno, a midfielder, at centre back. Dyer, again LEFT FOOTED, has been used on the right, despite the fact that he's far more effective when he gives us width. That's quite a few players out of position, you can't afford that.

It was clear we were missing Brown very early on in the season, I could have told you that after the Burnley game. We are struggling to deal with any long ball or cross. Who's missing? You do the math. Hobbs also looks lost without him. He was shocking with his distribution make no mistake, but distribution is a mere bonus for a defender. Brown was solid, you need that.

King is clearly vital for his goals from midfield. Do you disagree?

I'm fed up with people saying 'Leicester fans are the most fickle in the country' - how would you know that - you don't converse with a large group of any other teams fans do you? Do you use Newcastle's online forum? because if you did I'm sure you'd discover how fickle they can be! Their support makes us look like Jehovah's bleeding witnesses.

[Bellend Sebastian]

How many more ****tards are going to start utterly ridiculous threads. <_<

I've barely started

[ozleicester]

Disgusting.... what if we win this saturday?... will you want to lose the next game... and the one after.. and the one after...?

How long will it take... lets all dream that we go unbeaten for the next 10 league games, is PS still shit?

[Asha]

I just hope if we win people don't start to think "Paulo has turned it all round". We should be beating S****horpe regardless.

[Kitchandro]

Disgusting.... what if we win this saturday?... will you want to lose the next game... and the one after.. and the one after...?

How long will it take... lets all dream that we go unbeaten for the next 10 league games, is PS still shit?

Maybe, maybe not, but that is never going to happen.

[ozleicester]

Maybe, maybe not, but that is never going to happen.

Kinda worked with MoN

[Kitchandro]

Kinda worked with MoN

Well I don't think it's going to happen this time.

May I remind you that once O'Neill brought some players in - Claridge, Izzet and Lennon, results started to improve within a few games.

Paulo has brought players in but they have had little impact. And he's still not brought in a centre back.

Just don't see many reasons for optimism, or any real comparisons with O'Neill

[wakeyfox01]

He was played on the left wing a bit, but not a lot. A lot of the time he partnered big Steve up front. And LEFT wing is important, he's left footed and being played the right. Up front in a 4-42 would clearly be beneficial to the team.

Morrison was playing right back last season, I could tell even then (as Pearson could) that he was not a centre back. Sousa's also played Moreno, a midfielder, at centre back. Dyer, again LEFT FOOTED, has been used on the right, despite the fact that he's far more effective when he gives us width. That's quite a few players out of position, you can't afford that.

It was clear we were missing Brown very early on in the season, I could have told you that after the Burnley game. We are struggling to deal with any long ball or cross. Who's missing? You do the math. Hobbs also looks lost without him. He was shocking with his distribution make no mistake, but distribution is a mere bonus for a defender. Brown was solid, you need that.

King is clearly vital for his goals from midfield. Do you disagree?

I'm fed up with people saying 'Leicester fans are the most fickle in the country' - how would you know that - you don't converse with a large group of any other teams fans do you? Do you use Newcastle's online forum? because if you did I'm sure you'd discover how fickle they can be! Their support makes us look like Jehovah's bleeding witnesses.

Morrison was playing right back because Neilson was so shockingly bad, he started the season on the bench and it was out of neccesity that Morrison played there, although I think he did a good job and would be a good option there this season. He was a centre back at Cambridge and played well there in the League One season looking very assured but switched to right back eventually.

Waghorn is more of a Rooney type player in that he drops deep and picks up the ball running at people and setting others up and shooting from range, he also plays well getting in the channels. I just don't think he worked that well with Howard as he doesn't read his flick-ons very often and he looked better with Fryatt where he was able to provide for Fryatt and set up his own chances. Cutting in off the right wing allows him to try his luck from range, which he was successful with last year. I'm not saying I want him to play there, just that he is more than capable of it and has done it before.

When Moreno signed we were told he could play in either defence or midfield. He has not looked impressive at centre back but he is used to the Portuguese league and it will take him a while to adapt to defending in the English league. I think he is better off being played in midfield for now until he is used to the nature of the championship, but he can play in defence, so is not out of position.

Dyer has played really well on the right, especially in the Reading game, ala his goal, cutting in on his left and scoring into the far post. Again, I'm not saying I'd rather have him there than on the left, simply that he can play there and has performed well in that position and has been one of the few bright spots of the season so far.

I am not criticising Brown in any way, just showing how quickly people's attitudes toward him or a player like him have changed (not saying yours has). When people criticised him last year I was defending him with the exact same arguments you have used and I agree we need a solid no-nonsense defender to play with Hobbs who is more composed on the ball.

I also agree that King is a vital cog in the midfield, I am just pointing out that people ciriticised him last year but are suddenly talking him up this year, I always talked him up and knew how good a job he was doing and think that he is one of the most intelligent players at getting into the box I have seen, as he almost always pops up in the right place.

I live in Wakefield (near Leeds) in Yorkshire and always have done and support Leicester as my dad does. I come to uni in Leicester, with the chance to keep watching the team one of my motives in that decision. I have grown up surrounded by Leeds fans and fans of other Yorkshire teams and even some Newcastle fans and they are never as fickle or critical as a large proportion of Leicester fans seem to be. I didn't grow up in Leicester and even though I live here I don't know many Leicester fans, so as an outsider looking in our fans just never seem to be happy. We were getting booed off last year for drawing games even though we played well, we get booed off at half time because we're losing 1 nil and have dominated a match and were just caught on the break and we look like we are goin to win. People were saying Pearson was not good enough even when we were in the playoff positions. This year people wre saying how well Oakley was playing and then he has one bad game and they're right back on his back again saying he is not good enough? Maybe I exagerrated about how fickle we are as I'm sure most clubs have fans like that as well, but it just frustrates me and makes me wonder why people even support the club if they just live to slag everything about it off.

I was just saying get behind the team and whatever happens happens it's out of our control. I will never boo the team or manager even if I get frustrated because I just want us to do well and will stick by them no matter what, therefore I will back Sousa and the team till the bitter end because thats what supporting is. If Sousa goes then I will do the same with the next manager because I want us to succeed no matter who is in charge.

[Adster]

anyone who wants their team to lose a game is a disgrace, even despite the circumstances.

[anotherwin]

Ok,I just got in, and I'm not wading through all the pages of this load of crap,

what sort of statement is "I want my team to lose" ? call yourself a fan?. Look I'm as upset as the next man about our team at the minute, and maybe changing the manager is going to fix it, but to wish our team to lose is not - imo, going to help one bit, what are you gonna do? Boo them as soon as they come out, I'm not looking forward to the match as it is...the atmosphere is going to be diabolical

well that's my two cents

[Kitchandro]

Morrison was playing right back because Neilson was so shockingly bad, he started the season on the bench and it was out of neccesity that Morrison played there, although I think he did a good job and would be a good option there this season. He was a centre back at Cambridge and played well there in the League One season looking very assured but switched to right back eventually.

Waghorn is more of a Rooney type player in that he drops deep and picks up the ball running at people and setting others up and shooting from range, he also plays well getting in the channels. I just don't think he worked that well with Howard as he doesn't read his flick-ons very often and he looked better with Fryatt where he was able to provide for Fryatt and set up his own chances. Cutting in off the right wing allows him to try his luck from range, which he was successful with last year. I'm not saying I want him to play there, just that he is more than capable of it and has done it before.

When Moreno signed we were told he could play in either defence or midfield. He has not looked impressive at centre back but he is used to the Portuguese league and it will take him a while to adapt to defending in the English league. I think he is better off being played in midfield for now until he is used to the nature of the championship, but he can play in defence, so is not out of position.

Dyer has played really well on the right, especially in the Reading game, ala his goal, cutting in on his left and scoring into the far post. Again, I'm not saying I'd rather have him there than on the left, simply that he can play there and has performed well in that position and has been one of the few bright spots of the season so far.

I am not criticising Brown in any way, just showing how quickly people's attitudes toward him or a player like him have changed (not saying yours has). When people criticised him last year I was defending him with the exact same arguments you have used and I agree we need a solid no-nonsense defender to play with Hobbs who is more composed on the ball.

I also agree that King is a vital cog in the midfield, I am just pointing out that people ciriticised him last year but are suddenly talking him up this year, I always talked him up and knew how good a job he was doing and think that he is one of the most intelligent players at getting into the box I have seen, as he almost always pops up in the right place.

I live in Wakefield (near Leeds) in Yorkshire and always have done and support Leicester as my dad does. I come to uni in Leicester, with the chance to keep watching the team one of my motives in that decision. I have grown up surrounded by Leeds fans and fans of other Yorkshire teams and even some Newcastle fans and they are never as fickle or critical as a large proportion of Leicester fans seem to be. I didn't grow up in Leicester and even though I live here I don't know many Leicester fans, so as an outsider looking in our fans just never seem to be happy. We were getting booed off last year for drawing games even though we played well, we get booed off at half time because we're losing 1 nil and have dominated a match and were just caught on the break and we look like we are goin to win. People were saying Pearson was not good enough even when we were in the playoff positions. This year people wre saying how well Oakley was playing and then he has one bad game and they're right back on his back again saying he is not good enough? Maybe I exagerrated about how fickle we are as I'm sure most clubs have fans like that as well, but it just frustrates me and makes me wonder why people even support the club if they just live to slag everything about it off.

I was just saying get behind the team and whatever happens happens it's out of our control. I will never boo the team or manager even if I get frustrated because I just want us to do well and will stick by them no matter what, therefore I will back Sousa and the team till the bitter end because thats what supporting is. If Sousa goes then I will do the same with the next manager because I want us to succeed no matter who is in charge.

You make some good points, I agree that Waghorn, Dyer and Moreno can play in the positions mentioned, however I fel they would be far more effective being played up front, on the left and in midfield respectively. Whilst Sousa can be forgiven for trying to be flexible with their positions, it says a lot to me that he doesn't realise that it's not working. Certainly I feel that it is not.

I myself will never boo the team or manager at games (even if I do slate them on here!), but at every club there will always be those who do. TBH, in the case of Leicester fans I can't really blame them as we have been put through a lot of shit in the past 10 years, I can understand why the frustration would get to them. Look at this year, ticket prices for the 'platinum' games (Boro?!) have been even more expensive than last year yet the quality of football has been quite poor so far (the Reading first half performances was one of the worst I've ever seen). I'm not saying Leeds fans haven't had it rough too., cos they have.

Basically football is fickle. Look at how well Villa were doing with O'Neill and they still booed him. Chelsea drew 3-3 at home last season and were booed off. What I'm saying is, every group of fans have a fickle bunch, a patient bunch, and those inbetween.

[Simmo86]

Why would us losing on saturday be benefical in anyway??

Yes it might be Sousa's last game but then the new manager gets a team devoid of more confidence and in a worse position?

We've got 3 home games this month (Scunny, Hull, Preston) which are easily winnable and considering the nature of our performances pre pompey theres no reason why we can't win them all.

[ThurnbyLodgeFox]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1316195/Paulo-Sousa-ninth-managerial-casualty-years-Leicester.html

He's been given 1 game... your thoughts please

[Onions]

3 more points dropped. Yes of course it's a bad thing.