Uncle Tom Cobbler

[Mack]

Is anyone else getting disheartened with all these rumours about us signing every single Uncle Tom Cobbler and his cousin?

We simply dont need them.

It's to Sven's credit that he has managed to make so many sweeping changes to the team in such a short space of time yet we are still getting OK performances, because usually when you change the first team so drastically so quickly it can cause allsorts of problems.

And it's undoubtedly the reason why the team blow so hot and cold, there are just too many new faces trying to gel overnight. It will come, but we need continuity.

Sven keeps saying 'Why did'nt we play like that in the first half?' I can tell you fella, they hardly know each others names and understanding takes time.

All these loan players at the club starting in the first 11 has improved us in certain areas, but you can be sure there are as many players on permanent contracts that are pissed off, and morale at the training ground will worsen if yet more loans are brought in.

We dont need a sideshow, be it Beckham or Ljungberg, and we dont need anymore loans.

For me what we really need is quality permanent signings in January and those who Sven is not considering seriously for the first team (Fryatt etc) moved on to prevent any bad feelings developing within the squad.

No more Uncle Tom Cobblers please!

[Nick]

Is anyone else getting disheartened with all these rumours about us signing every single Uncle Tom Cobbler and his cousin?

We simply dont need them.

It's to Sven's credit that he has managed to make so many sweeping changes to the team in such a short space of time yet we are still getting OK performances, because usually when you change the first team so drastically so quickly it can cause allsorts of problems.

And it's undoubtedly the reason why the team blow so hot and cold, there are just too many new faces trying to gel overnight. It will come, but we need continuity.

Sven keeps saying 'Why did'nt we play like that in the first half?' I can tell you fella, they hardly know each others names and understanding takes time.

All these loan players at the club starting in the first 11 has improved us in certain areas, but you can be sure there are as many players on permanent contracts that are pissed off, and morale at the training ground will worsen if yet more loans are brought in.

We dont need a sideshow, be it Beckham or Ljungberg, and we dont need anymore loans.

For me what we really need is quality permanent signings in January and those who Sven is not considering seriously for the first team (Fryatt etc) moved on to prevent any bad feelings developing within the squad.

No more Uncle Tom Cobblers please!

I disagree, get them all in.

Let's have some competition for places.

Let's not blindly follow with unconditional loyalty otherwise we end up with a squad full of Matt Oakley's.

It's Sven picking and trialing these players - name me one he's signed who's gash without jumping on the Bednar bad game bandwagon?

Bring me your tired your poor and your hungry and let Mr. Fizackerley assess you until you are sent home or signed.

[Far Post Gerry]

I always rated Tom Cobbler; good feet for a big man. But I agree that his cousin is shite.

[Daggers]

Uncle Tom Cobley

[Finnegan]

Freddie is the only one I'd question. Anyone who thinks Beckham, Pires and Santa Cruz wouldn't improve our squad is a retard. End of.

[Karljohn]

I mentioned in the Ljungberg thread that the Thai's need to end their obsession with the big name signing, I do wonder what the likes of Wellens, Howard etc think of all the speculation, big players and voices for us on the pitch, I doubt it sits comfortably with them, Whereas the young kids like Schlupp and John must see it as another knockback too.

I can only think of one example where its worked for us in the past, in the shape of Tony Cottee brought back from the wilderness, he was loaned out immediately by MON but TC had amazing awareness of where a ball was going to end up and was arguably more of a predator than Lineker in the box.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Get everyone in, lets have some good competition and give us the best possible starting 11. Sure Fryatt, Howard and Oakley have been good players to us, but if we are now aiming for premiership quality players, we need to be aiming higher.

[Mack]

Seems that so far most who have replied disagree with me.

Dont you worry?

I mean, for example Naughton and Davies will have higher aspirations than playing in the championship, surely they are using the club for their own gain? And do we really need a pile more the same who dont have the best interests of our club at heart.

The squad we had was good enough for a top 6 finish last season, a few canny signings to increase competition and improve us in the weak areas would do us just fine for me.

I also think we are now starting to overlook players who are actually signed to the club that are good enough to play in the first 11.

Why waste money on new acquisitions if we have players who can do that job already?

Blackpool have shown there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Remember how the squad was post Levein.. Allen etc... full of journeymen self centred money grabbers who were not only poor quality but had little motivation to boot.

To Pearson's credit he weeded out most of the shit and tidied things up, is there any need to go back to paying players good wages for doing nothing?

[Daggers]

Dont you worry?

Only for the future of the nation's young.

[Thracian]

Freddie is the only one I'd question. Anyone who thinks Beckham, Pires and Santa Cruz wouldn't improve our squad is a retard. End of.

Why so restricted? I thought anyone who disagreed with you was "a retard" and fair game to be shouted down. I've seen teams with fading superstars and it often ends in tears.

But I wouldn't stoop to calling someone like Sven - or anyone else for that matter - insulting names just because they saw things differently.

And I doubt that Sven would. It's a matter of the "class" I've mentioned previously in relation to Sven. Class is not about money it's about consideration and good manners. But there's no sense talking to you about those things. Cos most of the many retards I know have far better manners than you.

[skinnydipper]

Freddie is the only one I'd question. Anyone who thinks Beckham, Pires and Santa Cruz wouldn't improve our squad is a retard. End of.

I beg to differ but I can't elaborate because the Sunshine Variety minibus has just arrived to take me to the Day Centre

[ACF]

Only for the future of the nation's young.

I fear for the future of the nation's OAPs, freezing their saggy bollocks off infront of their brand new 3D TV which they can't use because the TV glasses don't fit over their normal ones, so they'ce wasted their pension on a piece of crap instead of sherry and incontinence solutions.

[Guest BlueBrett]

Freddie is the only one I'd question. Anyone who thinks Beckham, Pires and Santa Cruz wouldn't improve our squad is a retard. End of.

Have you see him at Villa? He looks awful in just about every way. Think we dodged a bullet there to be honest.

[ibbosuk]

Why so restricted? I thought anyone who disagreed with you was "a retard" and fair game to be shouted down. I've seen teams with fading superstars and it often ends in tears.

But I wouldn't stoop to calling someone like Sven - or anyone else for that matter - insulting names just because they saw things differently.

And I doubt that Sven would. It's a matter of the "class" I've mentioned previously in relation to Sven. Class is not about money it's about consideration and good manners. But there's no sense talking to you about those things. Cos most of the many retards I know have far better manners than you.

Anyone who disagrees with Fannygun is a retard??

I always thought him to be one of those Intwatllectual thingy kind of peoples.

Humm... interesting.

[Finnegan]

Right so they were recently good enough for Milan, Villareal and Man City / Blackburn but they would flop here?

Give over. And Thracian, Sven didn't turn them down it was visa versa, and are we shocked?

I hated it when we brought in knackered old cripples like Horsefield. But Becks? I'm Welsh and even I think he's still top flight quality. Judge a player's merits, not his age, be he 16 or 32.

[Bettsj2]

I mentioned in the Ljungberg thread that the Thai's need to end their obsession with the big name signing, I do wonder what the likes of Wellens, Howard etc think of all the speculation, big players and voices for us on the pitch, I doubt it sits comfortably with them, Whereas the young kids like Schlupp and John must see it as another knockback too.

I can only think of one example where its worked for us in the past, in the shape of Tony Cottee brought back from the wilderness, he was loaned out immediately by MON but TC had amazing awareness of where a ball was going to end up and was arguably more of a predator than Lineker in the box.

They really dont.

If anything they need to push more for a big name signing.

Big name signing means quality.

Adam Le Fondre (or equivalent) means gamble.

Football maths equation for you: -

World class manager + nuff spending money + marquee signing = Teams being scared of you

Teams being scared of you + Big name signings = PREMIER CITEH!!!

[Kitchandro]

They really dont.

If anything they need to push more for a big name signing.

Big name signing means quality.

Adam Le Fondre (or equivalent) means gamble.

Football maths equation for you: -

World class manager + nuff spending money + marquee signing = Teams being scared of you

Teams being scared of you + Big name signings = PREMIER CITEH!!!

No it doesn't, that's where you're wrong.

Sometimes a bit of team spirit goes much further.

There are plenty of examples of big names being shit and harming team spirit, or a team with no big names and a lot of spirit doing well.

Sorry but I think everyone who wants a big name signing is not thinking about Leicester, only the orgasm they would get from seeing Becks in the flesh

[Kitchandro]

And before people have a go I'm delighted at the quality players we have brought in, but they aren't big names are they? Does that mean they aren't good enough?

And if we don't sign them on a permanent deal we have to find more replacements, it's no good having an endless conveyer belt of loans

[hackneyfox]

Some times a bit of team spirit can go further.

Sometimes training and playing alongside agifted and talented player can improve your game.-

We shouldn't be buying a player just because he's a big name, but if he helps those around him, increases crowds, and helps to bring in better players then where is the problem?

probably bst not to fall out with each other over it until we know who the big name will actually be.

But personally I think the Likes of Cruz, Beckham or Keane would surely improve the team and help us toward the Premier.

Currently we're being forced in to playing players who aren't match fit.

I am somewhat worried about this constant talk of orgasms, coming in Sven's eye etc.

Perhaps some of you should buy a packet of biscuits and have a quiet time together.

[hackneyfox]

And if we don't sign them on a permanent deal we have to find more replacements, it's no good having an endless conveyer belt of loans

I know what you mean but if good player who can get us to The Premier won't sign permanently in January then I have no problem with an endless conveyor belt of loanees if they can get us up.

The squad was always going to have to be rebuilt if/when we got promoted.

[Adster]

No it doesn't, that's where you're wrong.

Sometimes a bit of team spirit goes much further.

There are plenty of examples of big names being shit and harming team spirit, or a team with no big names and a lot of spirit doing well.

Sorry but I think everyone who wants a big name signing is not thinking about Leicester, only the orgasm they would get from seeing Becks in the flesh

Example: Edgar Davids.

[Kitchandro]

Some times a bit of team spirit can go further.

Sometimes training and playing alongside agifted and talented player can improve your game.-

We shouldn't be buying a player just because he's a big name, but if he helps those around him, increases crowds, and helps to bring in better players then where is the problem?

probably bst not to fall out with each other over it until we know who the big name will actually be.

But personally I think the Likes of Cruz, Beckham or Keane would surely improve the team and help us toward the Premier.

Currently we're being forced in to playing players who aren't match fit.

I am somewhat worried about this constant talk of orgasms, coming in Sven's eye etc.

Perhaps some of you should buy a packet of biscuits and have a quiet time together.

Yes, but sometimes being benched because a has-been is being played because he is a big name instead of you will piss you off

I think it would be a risk not worth taking, ihe MIGHT improve the quality of the squad, but he MIGHT piss a lot of players off just by being there. One thing he definitely won't do is win promotion single-handedly

[hackneyfox]

He may not have to though, one big name coming in could open the flood gates.

As I say most of the team will need replacing should we get promoted so I wouldn't be that bothered about pissing off many of the current squad, unless it is one that Sven was hoping to use next season, and he's unlikely to replace them anyway.

[hackneyfox]

You seem to assume that all big name players are has beens.

Probably right in that we're unlikely to tempt a player at the top of his game, but they may not be has beens.

[Kitchandro]

You seem to assume that all big name players are has beens.

Probably right in that we're unlikely to tempt a player at the top of his game, but they may not be has beens.

David Bentley's quite a big name and not a has been. But not big enough I'm sure.

But just as an example, if it was a choice between him and Becks who would the Thais rather have?

Bentley may be a poor man's Beckham, but on his day he'd be a better than Beckham is nowadays.

I'm just not interested in getting older players who are big names just for the sake of it - which is what Top wants. I'd rather have a not-so-big name who's good, than a really big name who used to be great but now is just OK.

Top on the other hand, wants it the other way round