Sparky Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Bit of a weird one, this weekend. What happens after the final whistle if England lose? I mean they can't actually hand them the trophy until we've played our game, presumably. Despite how unrealistic it is that we'd put twenty or thirty points over France it's still possible. If England lose the game but win the championship they get no presentation? Or what? And, in theory, what's to stop Ireland winning and then France (if losing in the last fifteen minutes) relaxing and letting Wales just run in a few more tries to tip the balance so that England lose the Championship? Not suggesting for one moment that the French would do that, that England will lose or that Wales will win but surely both games should be played at the same time? I appreciate that that would eat into coverage and viewing figures, but still... They will just do a token presentation at some other point mate, im sure France were given the trophy few years ago after another game not involving them finished. Your results since the 1st weekend highlight what a big win that was for us in Cardiff, Ireland away when we are aiming for the slam will never be easy but hoping that our half backs can dictate today.
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 They will just do a token presentation at some other point mate, im sure France were given the trophy few years ago after another game not involving them finished. But could that other game have decided the outcome of the tournament? I mean what would they do if the gap was, say, actually only about 10 points? And you lost by five? They'd give you the trophy and let you dance around with it and then if we won by seven you'd look like right tarts. I mean realistically you've already won the Championship, short of a miracle, but even so. It does seem a bit weird - I can't remember it being quite this strange on the last day before but maybe it's just that I've never thought about it. Your results since the 1st weekend highlight what a big win that was for us in Cardiff, Ireland away when we are aiming for the slam will never be easy but hoping that our half backs can dictate today. Yeah we said right from the start that the winner of that England / Wales game would be a likely front runner come the end of the campaign, I was more nervous about that game than any other in recent history to be honest - still gutted we lost. I think we've played fairly poorly, though, to be honest. As have Ireland and France. I don't want to fall into the trap of claiming it's been a weak tournament or hinting that England don't deserve it because it irked me when people came out with the same thing after 2008. That year I think it was Guscott that came out with a rare nugget of wisdom, pointing out that "you don't get a Grand Slam for free." It'll certainly be an achievement if England win today, no doubt. But taking my Wales hat off and looking at the tournament as a spectacle I have to say I've been a tad disappointed and it does make me fear for the Northern hemisphere come the World Cup.
MPH Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 This has been a very strange 6 nations so far...... England, presuming nothing calamitous happens in the welsh game deserve to win it, but not because they have been in fine form, they have simply been consistently average. Flashes of skill in certain games but nothing else. The 'home' nations need to be booking an early holiday after the world cup. all of them, including france, on this showing.
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 Fair summary, MPH, and I'm glad of your honesty. This is a fantastic game so far though. Hope Ireland can keep this up and give us a fighting chance going in to Paris! God, I love our green cousins.
MPH Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Fair summary, MPH, and I'm glad of your honesty. This is a fantastic game so far though. Hope Ireland can keep this up and give us a fighting chance going in to Paris! God, I love our green cousins. bloody irish
purpleronnie Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Kind of mixed emotions, I have a treble bet:- IRELAND +4.5 to beat ENGLAND FRANCE to beat WALES MAN UTD to beat BOLTON
FoxyPV Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 YEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Chris you're playing in white ya ****!!!
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 Mh. This is slipping away from us and we've not even started playing yet! Come on Ireland, ffs! Edit: Ireland's back row forwards have been absolutely fantastic today.
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE THE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIELDS
davieG Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 This game is a bit like watching LCFC this afternoon only one team wants to or believes they can win it and it isn't England and it wasn't LCFC.
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 Could, and should, have been about 35 - 40 points for Ireland. That was one of the most one sided games I have ever seen. Wallace and Heaslip were staggeringly good, Paulie and Sexton were great too as was O'Callaghan. Think it's still England's, though, France will need a soccer-style capitulation in their dressing room for us to do this.
FoxyPV Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Ireland stop England winning the Grand Slam and the Triple Crown. Oh yeah!
MPH Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 ireland were indeed terrific... it just felt like england couldnt be arsed which is scandalous really when you consider the grand slam was within grasp. its mind numbingly stupid to of given Wales a chance however slim. Now dont misunderstand me, ireland would probably have won even if we did put a shift in, we just didnt even seem to want to put that shift in. Bit like watching the Leicester game earlier really. Same level of effort anyway. Off to buy my all blacks shirt for the world cup
Finnegan Posted 19 March 2011 Author Posted 19 March 2011 England have already won. This is diabolical. After all the excitement of Dublin and the promise of a half-chance we've just remembered that we've been shit for the last three years and nothing's changed.
MPH Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 England have already won. This is diabolical. After all the excitement of Dublin and the promise of a half-chance we've just remembered that we've been shit for the last three years and nothing's changed. This game actually epitomises the whole 6 nations tournament...
The Doctor Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 not gonna get to me, we avoided the wooden spoon so i'm happy.
Jackirius Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Well England were shit, what do Wales need to win by tomorrow? Come on France
MPH Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Well England were shit, what do Wales need to win by tomorrow? Come on France tomorrow?
Leicester_Loyal Posted 19 March 2011 Posted 19 March 2011 Well England were shit, what do Wales need to win by tomorrow? Come on France France 28-9 Wales. 8 minutes left to play.
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