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Finnegan

2011 Nations Cup.

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You don't need to tell him twice. Jeeeeeeeeeez!

hah, thought i'd got away with that.

computer is completely buggered, os failure so i'm on an old laptop which, while it does the job okay, is worse than jim leighton in terms of quality

Posted

I never thought I'd see the day I'd say this. I am disappointed Scotland won 3-0.

That should have been 5,6 possibly even 7-0. Brilliant performance but it would have been fantastic if we had taken the chances and made a huge statement. I thought we would win tonight but I didn't think it would be that easy. We tore them to shreds and looked like scoring nearly every time we went forward. Great confidence booster for the boys anyway.

  • 2 months later...
Posted

No fucking way Bale will play.

The rest of our decent players will probably all be sunning it up some where resting up.

God I'm so disillusioned by this tournament after all the early promise. Nobody gives a toss. :(

  • 2 weeks later...
Guest Bilo
Posted

Without wishing to sound ludicrously arrogant and Anglocentric, I do feel this tournament would have been taken a lot more seriously if it had been a proper revival of the Home Nations and England had been included. The timing has of course been a massive factor in it being treated as something of a sideshow as well which is a shame.

A summer tournament ever four years between World Cup and Euros (i.e. 2011, 2015 and so on) surely wouldn't be too much to ask and would revive some interest in what was a very popular competition. It'd certainly do better than this farce.

Posted

Without wishing to sound ludicrously arrogant and Anglocentric, I do feel this tournament would have been taken a lot more seriously if it had been a proper revival of the Home Nations and England had been included. The timing has of course been a massive factor in it being treated as something of a sideshow as well which is a shame.

A summer tournament ever four years between World Cup and Euros (i.e. 2011, 2015 and so on) surely wouldn't be too much to ask and would revive some interest in what was a very popular competition. It'd certainly do better than this farce.

Sadly the British media find it almost impossible to actually give a shit unless England themselves participate, look at the coverage - even on the BBC - this has gotten, it's just a joke. No media coverage equals no money, no money equals no weight, no weight equals club managers effectively destroying the competition with withdrawals and limits on playing staff.

This has been an over-glorified set of friendlies, Gary Speed is making sure to give his whole squad "a go" over the next two games purely to "help keep fitness up". Okay, mate, thanks for that.

So, yes, England being in it would make a bit of a difference but only if they came with the right attitude.

Posted

Sadly the British media find it almost impossible to actually give a shit unless England themselves participate, look at the coverage - even on the BBC - this has gotten, it's just a joke. No media coverage equals no money, no money equals no weight, no weight equals club managers effectively destroying the competition with withdrawals and limits on playing staff.

This has been an over-glorified set of friendlies, Gary Speed is making sure to give his whole squad "a go" over the next two games purely to "help keep fitness up". Okay, mate, thanks for that.

So, yes, England being in it would make a bit of a difference but only if they came with the right attitude.

There was about 20 people in the Aviva last night. No one gives a **** about this.

I think it's the timing more than anything else - spread out of a load of months. Play the tournament over one/ two weekends to keep the interest high.

Guest Bilo
Posted

Sadly the British media find it almost impossible to actually give a shit unless England themselves participate, look at the coverage - even on the BBC - this has gotten, it's just a joke. No media coverage equals no money, no money equals no weight, no weight equals club managers effectively destroying the competition with withdrawals and limits on playing staff.

This has been an over-glorified set of friendlies, Gary Speed is making sure to give his whole squad "a go" over the next two games purely to "help keep fitness up". Okay, mate, thanks for that.

So, yes, England being in it would make a bit of a difference but only if they came with the right attitude.

Yup, we'd have to take it seriously without a doubt.

The main thing is that it's not as interesting for the fans or players really. Would any Welsh fan or player get as fired up for the visit of Norn Iron as they would for Rooney et al? No chance, just as a Scottish fan wouldn't be as excited to count the Mill Stad as their biggest away day of the tournament over Wembley. The press would love it, the fans would love it and the players would be much more interested. The only real rivalry I can see in this tournament is Eire v Northern Ireland, apart from that it's exactly as you described; a glorified set of friendlies. England-Scotland would NEVER be a friendly.

Posted

Can't imagine the England team or the FA would want anything to do with a tournament like this one.

If we win...ahh well we were supposed to win...much bigger country, highest paid footballers in the world, doesn't mean we will go on to beat the world's top 3, would mean nothing to us going forward if we wish to compete at the top again etc etc etc etc etc.

If we lose...national outrage, the England manager would be under serious pressure to resign/be sacked, it would totally destroy any confidence/pride the team is very fragilely trying to rebuild after 30 odd years of underachievement, and we'd never hear the last of it from our brothers across the borders.

In short, the tournament would be almost lose-lose from an English perspective. Sure there would be a **** ton more interest from the media/fans, but that would only be because most would just be waiting for England to **** it up so the knives can come out again.

Guest Bilo
Posted

Looking at it another way though BlueSi, surely it would be better for players to gain the experience of competitive games than play meaningless friendlies?

I'm pretty sure any English player would be far more fired up for a Home Nations game at Hampden than a meaningless friendly against Greece at Wembley. It would be an opportunity to sample an atmosphere and a meaningful set of matches closer to a World Cup or European Championship experience than any number of matches against Slovakia or Brazil's B team in Qatar could ever produce. It'd be great for the fans as well to see some matches with a bit of bite without having to traipse all over the world to watch Capello experiment with his team.

Posted

Can't imagine the England team or the FA would want anything to do with a tournament like this one.

If we win...ahh well we were supposed to win...much bigger country, highest paid footballers in the world, doesn't mean we will go on to beat the world's top 3, would mean nothing to us going forward if we wish to compete at the top again etc etc etc etc etc.

If we lose...national outrage, the England manager would be under serious pressure to resign/be sacked, it would totally destroy any confidence/pride the team is very fragilely trying to rebuild after 30 odd years of underachievement, and we'd never hear the last of it from our brothers across the borders.

In short, the tournament would be almost lose-lose from an English perspective. Sure there would be a **** ton more interest from the media/fans, but that would only be because most would just be waiting for England to **** it up so the knives can come out again.

The 6N is lose-lose for us. We expect to beat you amateurs every year and then there's national outrage when we don't. :whistle:

Posted

The 6N is lose-lose for us. We expect to beat you amateurs every year and then there's national outrage when we don't. :whistle:

Wales expect to beat England at Rugby? Genuinely surprising given Englands history at egg-chasing when compared to the Welsh.

But to Bilo, sure a percentage of England fans would like the idea of playing the Scots again, but i think most of us when given the choice between them or a game against the French, Germans, Argentinians, Turks or Spanish for example....i think we both know what the majority would pick :)

Guest Bilo
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Granted, but we get perhaps one decent friendly in a blue moon. The majority are against sides like Switzerland, Greece and Slovenia who with all due respect hardly whet the appetite.

Also, the Home Nations would be competitive football as opposed to random friendlies.

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