Super_horns Posted 24 May 2012 Posted 24 May 2012 I Indeed. The hypocrisy of the papers pisses me off no end. Their constant "OH LOOK HOW BAD THEY MUST FEEL NOW" isn't exactly helping the families move on, is it? I'd be surprised if the press actually care about the parents grief anymore than the guy himself TBH (for all we know he might feel really bad about what happened) Sure they don't want to be reminded of McCormick and what he did every so often via front page headlines and the quest for quotes? However he'd be better going back into "normal life" quietly and away from the public limelight for at least a year or two but then since when has football been know for doing the right thing morally. Statement from the chairman... http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9725824.Wray__Swindon_playing_the_community_role/?ref=rss
DannyLCFC1 Posted 24 May 2012 Posted 24 May 2012 and there is no reason why he shouldn't, being a professional footballer is a job like any other and once his jail term is up he should be allowed to resume his career, just as anyone else would. I'd rather have him paying massive amount of money in tax then claiming benefits Whilst I agree my only argument would be that the punishment doesn't fit the crime as by the time he should of been released he would of been far to old to play.
MC Prussian Posted 24 May 2012 Posted 24 May 2012 He deserves that second chance. Obviously it's a bit of a smack in the face for the affected families, but what do you want to do with him now? Ban him from football for life? Put him back in prison for another couple of years? He's been a decent keeper and should be able to continue. If at all, rescind his driving license for a lifetime and make him participate in preventive courses about driving under the influence of alcohol on a regular basis. There's tons of ways of him redeeming himself.
Jimmy Posted 24 May 2012 Posted 24 May 2012 He gets a football career back after killing children through stupid actions that he chose. Served 3 out of 7 year? sentence. I don't think the verbal abuse he will get is too unfair on the cock. Whilst I agree my only argument would be that the punishment doesn't fit the crime as by the time he should of been released he would of been far to old to play. that is a different argument, its not his fault our justice system is too soft, they are releasing him so they are saying he's served his time
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 Obviously it's a bit of a smack in the face for the affected families, but what do you want to do with him now? Ban him from football for life? Put him back in prison for another couple of years? Yes.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 you're an idiot, its a job, not a privilege Cheers for that. I agree whole-heartedly that the guy should be given a second chance (in my opinion, not within football), though I dare say should this issue have affected me, or indeed you, you'd feel considerably different about it. The reason I feel uneasy about him returning to football is the same that I did Lee Hughes, Marlon King, or anyone involved with our legal system - is that these are people young children 'aspire' to be like, and, on your basis, those characters (Hughes, King, Barton) should be just as welcome into the sport as McCormick (though I doubt this is the case for you and your logic has zero consistency). Perhaps the chap should be given a second crack at life, but to call me an idiot for feeling a touch agitated that he can be instantly awarded a contract in a profession significantly within the public eye makes you look much, much more of a **** than I. I can appreciate people having different views but your reply has made you look a right goober. I'm pushing F5 with baited breath waiting for another insanely soul-crushing put-down.
Jimmy Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 I probably would, but then that's why we don't let victims (or their relatives) decide the punishment. If you want to argue he hasn't served long enough fine, you want to argue our Justice system is way too soft fine, on both counts I'd agree BUT the system we have says from next month he is a free man, meaning there is no reason he shouldn't be allowed to resume his life, as much as it may rankle you personally, his career was with in Football, and he has found an employer that it willing to take him on, so if he gets a contract out of it and goes on to have a successful career from here on in then so be it. It is what prison is supposed to be there for after all, to both punish AND rehabilitate
MC Prussian Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 Cheers for that. I agree whole-heartedly that the guy should be given a second chance (in my opinion, not within football), though I dare say should this issue have affected me, or indeed you, you'd feel considerably different about it. The reason I feel uneasy about him returning to football is the same that I did Lee Hughes, Marlon King, or anyone involved with our legal system - is that these are people young children 'aspire' to be like, and, on your basis, those characters (Hughes, King, Barton) should be just as welcome into the sport as McCormick (though I doubt this is the case for you and your logic has zero consistency). Perhaps the chap should be given a second crack at life, but to call me an idiot for feeling a touch agitated that he can be instantly awarded a contract in a profession significantly within the public eye makes you look much, much more of a **** than I. I can appreciate people having different views but your reply has made you look a right goober. I'm pushing F5 with baited breath waiting for another insanely soul-crushing put-down. I'd dare to say that young kids aspiring to be footballers don't aspire to drive around in a drunken state later on in their career. It's got nothing to do with football solely, it's a issue within society (that has always been around). McCormick didn't aspire to kill two kids deliberately when he chose the path of the modern footballer. Instead of condemning McCormick for his stupendous actions, how about putting the blame on the automobile industry or the alcholic beverage industry also? I know it sounds a bit far-fetched at first - but wouldn't it be more fair in a bigger context?
Super_horns Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 McCormick didn't aspire to kill two kids deliberately when he chose the path of the modern footballer. I do wonder if there is even more anger than usual at the thought of him going out and maintain some sort of normal life because of the fact he is a well paid footballer? We wouldn't even hear about this tragic story if it was Bob the builder down the road..who I presume given its the law set in stone would get the same sort of punishment/treatment. What happens to him isn't going to bring the 2 boys and I am not sure its very helpful for the fasmily to have their plight played out in public by the press.
AyewJoking Posted 25 May 2012 Posted 25 May 2012 If he didnt aspire to wreck lives, he shouldnt have driven in his alcohol influenced state.
MPH Posted 26 May 2012 Posted 26 May 2012 I looked after a patient today... parapalegic and in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. He killed a man whilst out drink driving. He was injured himself in the accident. He said that every single day of his life he thinks about the life he took and the kids who grew up without a dad. Although he spent along time in Prison for it. Knowing he has killed somoene , he said, and thinking about it every single day of his life is a bigger sentance than anything else that could of been handed down to him. He knows he did wrong and would do anything to change it but knows he cant. Not Justifying what Luke has done, but do not underestimate the effect this has had on him and how bad he has felt about it.
Saxondale Posted 26 May 2012 Posted 26 May 2012 Obviously he's done a bad thing that has ended in terrible consequences - that's a given. But I think he's paid (and will always be paying) the price - he's had a jail term, he's been labelled as an evil shit in all of the press and, most crucially, he has to live with the stain on his conscience for the rest of his life. Being a father himself, he will understand the magnitude of what has happened. What's more, the poor parents of the children killed seem to keep appearing on daytime television preaching about how evil he is. I can obviously understand their anger but I'm not sure this does any good. It's very easy for everybody to get on their high horses about how irresponsible he is. I think this is part of the blame zeitgeist, people seem to struggle to accept that accidents happen. Yes, he shouldn't have driven pissed, but it is still an accident. It wasn't like he drove home after drinking 10 pints, the accident happened the morning after a night's session. Who here wants to stick their neck out and say they have never driven in the morning when they're probably still under the influence? The whole accident is a sad thing, but everybody should move on instead of looking to persecute the lad for the rest of his life. When he turns up on the football pitch again, he's going to get terrible abuse from opposition fans - many of whom will then drive home from the match after having had 6 pints.
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