funkyrobot Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Thought Nige was gonna take a look at everyone in the squad!!!!!! All he seems to do is play all his old favs, when's he gonna realise they ain't good enough. Howards a donkey at this level Wellen's does fook all Andy King is a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago Gallagher Lightweight. Andy king has always been anonymous. It was the same two years ago. The difference between now and then is he doesn't score half as many goals as he did then.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Don't know why you're all bitching and moaning? This isn't NP's squad, this is Sven's squad. I'm sure he's blissfully aware that the team isn't good enough, that is why he'll undoubtedly strengthen the squad in January to make it HIS squad. 'Re-judge' NP's managerial competence after January FFS It is partly is his squad Gallagher, Wellens, King, Dyer ,Howard they are both are as to much to blame i.e NP and Sven lets hope NP will realize the team's underwhelming problems and sort them out in the January window.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Did we play as woefully as we lined up? I'm still pretty unconvinced by Pearson.
Walker Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 It is partly is his squad Gallagher, Wellens, King, Dyer ,Howard they are both are as to much to blame i.e NP and Sven lets hope NP will realize the team's underwhelming problems and sort them out in the January window. They were his players, yes. But the club and said players have changed a significant amount since he was last here. King and Gallagher may not be performing, but they're the only match winning midfielders in this squad. Fernandes, Abe may be good at what they do, but there's zero creativity in those players. I agree the squad just isn't good enough, but it's hardly NP's fault!
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 They were his players, yes. But the club and said players have changed a significant amount since he was last here. King and Gallagher may not be performing, but they're the only match winning midfielders in this squad. Fernandes, Abe may be good at what they do, but there's zero creativity in those players. I agree the squad just isn't good enough, but it's hardly NP's fault! It is the players fault shame we cannot sack them and I am talking about our whole midfield and Howard, Oakley etc you get my drift. NP I hope realizes now that midfield is f**king useless so at all costs do not start them ever again
J.Lisemore Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 They were his players, yes. But the club and said players have changed a significant amount since he was last here. King and Gallagher may not be performing, but they're the only match winning midfielders in this squad. Fernandes, Abe may be good at what they do, but there's zero creativity in those players. I agree the squad just isn't good enough, but it's hardly NP's fault! This is the point alot of people seem to be missing. He can only work with what hes got infront of him at the minute, and some of these players e.g Wellens + Howard are not what they were before. January 1st couldn't come sooner.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 You lot are mad, we have a squad of very capable players. They've annihilated teams in this league on occasion. The problem is that they're playing shit, not that they are shit. Need to stop passing the blame and figuring out what works imo. Or we could just buy a whole new squad, have the same problem, sack the manager, get a new manager, underperform, buy a whole new squad, repeat until promoted.
Fox92 Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Cba That is what sums up most of the players' performance today. I did think we looked uninterested under Sven at times, and I believe Nigel can motivate the players way better than Sven ever could, but, several players don't seem to try and put the effort in at times, especially in today's match against Doncaster. Also, we play too direct, especially today. I know Howard was in, but, the game just by-passes Wellens and King who are both good ball players. Having said that, I would personally drop the whole midfield for the next game.
lcfcadam Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 The problem is that they're playing shit, not that they are shit. Need to stop passing the blame and figuring out what works imo. Sorry but this is a load of wankshaft - in this kind of situation if the players aren't playing well enough then that means something is fundamentally wrong. The way I look at it, I see a starting 11 without even ONE player with anything approaching individual creativity or flair (excluding Bamba, and he's a ****ing centre-back), a defence that breaks down as predictably as the happy ending comes about in a Hollywood blockbuster, and an attack which, well... um, doesn't exist at all?
BNET Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 You lot are mad, we have a squad of very capable players. They've annihilated teams in this league on occasion. The problem is that they're playing shit, not that they are shit. Need to stop passing the blame and figuring out what works imo. Or we could just buy a whole new squad, have the same problem, sack the manager, get a new manager, underperform, buy a whole new squad, repeat until promoted. l agree Benny, we have a good squad, the manager can't put a side together, he plays players that are proven rubbish this is what 's driving the fans mad. l think we have made one serious fukc up taking Pearson back.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 l agree Benny, we have a good squad, the manager can't put a side together, he plays players that are proven rubbish this is what 's driving the fans mad. l think we have made one serious fukc up taking Pearson back. Laughable the midfield is shit always has been, players are not playing for the manager he will make big changes in January things can only improve I hope.
BNET Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Laughable the midfield is shit always has been, players are not playing for the manager he will make big changes in January things can only improve I hope. But will he change the team ? if his past record is anything to go by he won't. We all know he should and you would expect him to, but this is Nigel Pearson were talking about...
ousefox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Absolutely ****ing woeful today, just shite. Doncaster were crap but we couldn't handle their strikers. We didn't deserve anything from that game and we got **** all. Don't know how many chances we squandered but we were pathetic.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Sorry but this is a load of wankshaft - in this kind of situation if the players aren't playing well enough then that means something is fundamentally wrong. The way I look at it, I see a starting 11 without even ONE player with anything approaching individual creativity or flair (excluding Bamba, and he's a ****ing centre-back), a defence that breaks down as predictably as the happy ending comes about in a Hollywood blockbuster, and an attack which, well... um, doesn't exist at all? Then how do you explain results and performances like Derby? I i'm not making it up, we did play well - that is proof enough that they are CAPABLE. We had started to look organised and were playing well towards the end under Sven. No surprise that Pearson changed things, and it's no surprise we've been setback because of it. That;s why I'd rather we stuck with Sven. Fine now Pearson is here, he has my support, but seems unwilling to change things? I don't understand why players like Fernandes and Abe aren't getting a look in. Our fans will moan about anything. Yakubu shit and lazy etc, now he;s banging them in in the premiership - but he's 'not good enough' either. We need to be patient and let the squad settle under Nige's way. Its a shame because I felt the same when Sven was here, and we were getting there. Now we just moved back to square one but tbh we seem to be playing more negatively now.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 But will he change the team ? if his past record is anything to go by he won't. We all know he should and you would expect him to, but this is Nigel Pearson were talking about... We hope he does change the midfield
Libertine Dream Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 January for me should be about building for next season, bedding the players in for next year. Get an Izzet type player to start orchestrating play and get him use to his surroundings. Treat this 2nd half of the season as a pre-season for next season(something we should have done last year). Give the players time to gel, start enjoying their football and remove some of the pressure. Then they will be ready to go again, having gelled, knowing how everybody plays, something Soton players have had the luxury of doing. Then it could be our year. I personally would go for the FA Cup and settle for mid table this year. Also give NP an opportunity to toy with different systems, maybe make ourselves more attacking, playing better football.
J.Lisemore Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 You lot are mad, we have a squad of very capable players. They've annihilated teams in this league on occasion. The problem is that they're playing shit, not that they are shit. Need to stop passing the blame and figuring out what works imo. Or we could just buy a whole new squad, have the same problem, sack the manager, get a new manager, underperform, buy a whole new squad, repeat until promoted. Looks great on paper doesn't it. The reality is though, we're not a great team. Some of them are very good individual players but we need players that fit into Pearson's style of play. That doesn't involve buying a whole new squad, but a bit of chopping and changing is needed.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Amazes me how Gallagher seems to get away on here relatively scot free. He really is an absolute luxury player. Superb goals one week, waste of space for the next six. I am so fed up of him whimping out of tackles.. It happens so often.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 January for me should be about building for next season, bedding the players in for next year. Get an Izzet type player to start orchestrating play and get him use to his surroundings. Treat this 2nd half of the season as a pre-season for next season(something we should have done last year). Give the players time to gel, start enjoying their football and remove some of the pressure. Then they will be ready to go again, having gelled, knowing how everybody plays, something Soton players have had the luxury of doing. Then it could be our year. I personally would go for the FA Cup and settle for mid table this year. Also give NP an opportunity to toy with different systems, maybe make ourselves more attacking, playing better football. Spot on for me, but whether the owners have the same view remains to be seen.
Fox92 Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Amazes me how Gallagher seems to get away on here relatively scot free. He really is an absolute luxury player. Superb goals one week, waste of space for the next six. I am so fed up of him whimping out of tackles.. It happens so often. Thank you Col city fan! Something I agree with!
Libertine Dream Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Then how do you explain results and performances like Derby? I i'm not making it up, we did play well - that is proof enough that they are CAPABLE. We had started to look organised and were playing well towards the end under Sven. No surprise that Pearson changed things, and it's no surprise we've been setback because of it. That;s why I'd rather we stuck with Sven. Fine now Pearson is here, he has my support, but seems unwilling to change things? I don't understand why players like Fernandes and Abe aren't getting a look in. Our fans will moan about anything. Yakubu shit and lazy etc, now he;s banging them in in the premiership - but he's 'not good enough' either. We need to be patient and let the squad settle under Nige's way. Its a shame because I felt the same when Sven was here, and we were getting there. Now we just moved back to square one but tbh we seem to be playing more negatively now. I think there was a big difference that day Naughton- great attacking full back and superior to Peltier. Made us more attacking Bamba- played on the right side of defence, therefore more comfortable with the position Mee-decent centre half. Left footed player on left side of defence PVA- Only knew how to attack and did it very well Wellens- When he could pass a ball Oakley- not sure he added anything that day, broke play up well though King- had free roam and was therefore good because of it, could do what he does well Gally- when he seemed to have desire and ability which has gone this year Vassell- quick and attacks well, takes players on Yakubu- great player who got way too much stick, would work well with Nugent The formation allowed us to play like that aswell, no 442
inckley fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Problem with this site is that you all ignore anyone who comes up with a balanced point of view in favour of a small in-crowd of hysterical morons who veer from one extreme to the other.Oh we're too direct. Oh we're too narrow. Oh the only problem is the midfield, or Beckford, or Howard. Or Beckford is the solution,or Howard is the solution. Sven is the problem. Pearson is the problem. Anything between the two extremes bores the **** out of all you so there's never a balanced opinion on anything. One week we're admitting that Abe and Fernandes and Johnson aren't up to it, the next you're moaning that we've stuck with King and Wellens. One week we lack stability, the next we're slating Pearson for sticking with the same side. When you ask 'why does this always happen with LCFC' do you ever consider that fans like you lot have a massive portion of the blame? Recently it was said that Beckford, in his fifth start, was devastated after being booed off by City fans. By the same fans who spat at Little six weeks before we were promoted in 94, who called for O'Neill to go in March '96 but refused to rally against Taylor until October '01, by which time it was too late. Fans who hounded Kelly out of the club when we were already safe in '07, then hounded Megson out later the same year after six weeks in the job, before getting firmly behind Holloway and watching us go down in '08. The same fans who didn't want Pearson, who failed to turn out to protest against Mandaric's decision to let him go, who backed Sven's every last signing and who already think Pearson isn't the answer. The fans who thought King and Wellens were legends a year ago, but hate them now. The same fans who create absolutely no atmosphere at the KP. We kid ourselves that this is normal. We laugh at Hull fans for not having a forum which buzzes with fans bitching about their club day in day out, then fail to understand the part we've played in creating a club which turns quality players into rubbish, great managers into hopeless losers. Hasn't it occurred to any of you who spent your time belittling Hull fans for having rubbish forums that maybe THEY have got something right somewhere along the line? Maybe WE could learn something from THEM. I increasingly believe that our fans don't live in the real world. There are plenty of people here who prefer to lose than to win, even without scoring goals, so long as we pass the ball 600 times instead of once. This site is indicative of a cancer at Leicester City Football Club. You always get it wrong - you slate the wrong people and back the wrong horses again and again and do it with such ferocity and arrogance that we never actually get anywhere.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 The Foxes boss said: "I would have been disappointed just to draw - let alone lose the game - after being in front. "We have to be better than that. "It was nothing to do with the technical side - we just have to be mentally tougher. "I need to change the players' mentality, or change the players themselves, because we are under-performing and that's the reason we are not where we want to be almost halfway through the season." Please be true getting rid of Wellens, King, Dyer Gallagher, Howard, Oakley, Moreno, Ball, Weale a few more you have got a lot of work to do NP but lets do it this January.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 I think there was a big difference that day Naughton- great attacking full back and superior to Peltier. Made us more attacking Bamba- played on the right side of defence, therefore more comfortable with the position Mee-decent centre half. Left footed player on left side of defence PVA- Only knew how to attack and did it very well Wellens- When he could pass a ball Oakley- not sure he added anything that day, broke play up well though King- had free roam and was therefore good because of it, could do what he does well Gally- when he seemed to have desire and ability which has gone this year Vassell- quick and attacks well, takes players on Yakubu- great player who got way too much stick, would work well with Nugent The formation allowed us to play like that aswell, no 442 We beat them 4-0 this season....
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