Donny Post Match...2-1 Loss

[inckley fox]

I'm beside myself here. Stop veering from one extreme to the other.

Someone said Danns / Johnson / Fernandes / Abe are a cut above. What? No-one who understands anything about football could think that.

And you all seem to think it's a given that Schmeichel / Bamba / Peltier / Konchesky are good enough. How? Schmeichel was to blame for the 2nd today, was to blame against Birmingham and Forest. As I said he's a highlights keeper. Bamba is Alan Paris mark two. I'll eat a fist full of any man's faeces if he becomes a successful top level footballer. He won't. Konchesky - he's 30 and average.

As for the midfield, when will you all face up to the fact that they've scored half of our goals since Sven left? They're not perfect but it's our inept defence and lack of a physical presence up front under the age of 35 (every side to ever win promotion has had one, be it Heskey, Bednar, Carroll etc.) that's to blame.

I'm sitting here with six other City fans, all wondering whether our support is the dumbest, worst-informed in the entire league.

[Guest bennytwohats]

"Get in there Wellens, straight out of play once again when the simple pass was there!"

"Awesome Kingy, another perfect execution of absolutely ****-all when you had acres of space!"

"Yes Gally!! Dispossessed again because you weren't thinking quickly enough!!"

You should probably see where I'm going.

Okay, and you missed the part where I said if you can't say anything positive, say nothing?

More to the point, how will moaning help them play better? Are we not meant to try and give the players a lift? It's not just that, you can CLEARLY see that the atmosphere can get on top of the players at times, heads drop, nobody wants the ball, confidence gone.

You can call them weak if you want, fine, but given the fact that we have weak players - then more than ever we should not get on their backs if we know it will mean they will play worse.

[Corky]

Today we were generally pants really.

BUT.. We lost due to a sensational second goal from an in form striker.

Having been at the game we were deffo the better team and AGAIN squandered plenty of chances. Wellens missed a couple, Stevie had a header turned over that he should have scored, Beckford looked good and came close late on.

AGAIN.. Only Nuge seems to be able to hit the back of the net at present.

I'm afraid Sharp did, and was the difference between two very very average sides.

This is the concern. We started the day 14 points and 14 places above Doncaster, yet you wouldn't have known which side was in which position for the majority of the game.

[lcfcadam]

Okay, and you missed the part where I said if you can't say anything positive, say nothing?

More to the point, how will moaning help them play better? Are we not meant to try and give the players a lift? It's not just that, you can CLEARLY see that the atmosphere can get on top of the players at times, heads drop, nobody wants the ball, confidence gone.

You can call them weak if you want, fine, but given the fact that we have weak players - then more than ever we should not get on their backs if we know it will mean they will play worse.

Okay fine, if you're asking for us to stand in absolute silence when we're playing shit then... fine, whatever. But I'm afraid I'm firmly of the view that highly paid professionals should do their job regardless of the noises their supporters are making.

And our highly paid professionals have not been doing their job consistently for a very long time now.

[Guest bennytwohats]

Okay fine, if you're asking for us to stand in absolute silence when we're playing shit then... fine, whatever. But I'm afraid I'm firmly of the view that highly paid professionals should do their job regardless of the noises their supporters are making.

And our highly paid professionals have not been doing their job consistently for a very long time now.

I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm saying that I think for the benefit of the team saying nothing is better than whining, and moaning. Yeah, we're not gonna agree on it. I don;t pay to 'watch highly paid professionals do their job', I go to support our team. I think it's a pretty cynical way of looking at it to be honest. Others have said it but I think many people just use saturday afternoons as an outlet to vent their frustrations. yes they're well paid but do you honestly, genuinely think that high wages means good performances? It's such an incredibly cold (and flawed) way of looking at it.

Honestly, it sounds like you;d be better off going to watch the tigers - better value for their money. They get paid less and perform better, I'm sure you'll like that more.

[Corky]

The fans were behind the team, I heard little moaning about specifics (just the quality of the game) until we went behind.

We did try and urge the team towards the end but you can forgive the fans for feeling let down.

[Kitchandro]

I never once made a comment about our fans today, not once. You're taking what I said way out of context, but whatever - seems you are happy to do that, I'll leave you to it. But for the record, I think there are constructive and negative ways to go about things. Moaning at your team is negative, cheering them on is positive. If you can't bring yourself to do that, say nothing. You can talk about whatever you want, but for some people, having to go and listen to people get on the players backs given the first opportunity sucks the fun out of it. I've never seen it happen at away games to be fair, but the KP is a nightmare for it, all it takes is one stray pass.

Anyway, so that we're clear - my point was only that the reactions from a lot of people on here are very OTT, we need some new faces sure, but we shouldn;t be panic buying or we'll be right back where we are. We have some decent players here, that has been shown - now we need to do what we can to get them playing well, which may mean a couple of new faces, panic buying a whole squad isn't the answer.

Anyone who thinks a team should 'walk the divison' with or without the money we've spent has their head in some other place. Takes a lot more than that to get out of this league.

How am I taking things out of context?

I had a go at people who have slated them fans, you replied saying our fans are shit.

Anything else you write is irrelevant, it's that that I have an issue with.

[Guy]

Amidst all the general negativity on here which has been compounded by today's terrible result, I do recall a rather similar situation we were in this time last year under Sven!

We'd lost 3-0 at Ipswich on the snow laden ice rink of course thanks to "home side pressure" not to get the game abandoned at half time - and a seeming conspiracy by Roy Keane, the officials (Mark Clattenburg??) and Sky back then - especially as it was live on Sky to really rub it in! I recall after that it was all doom and gloom vented at the team and was Sven the right man to take us forward etc, etc - and that was followed by a miserable home draw against Leeds on Boxing Day (only thanks to a late comeback) and a very poor defeat away to Millwall straight after. Then the whole season threatened to turn right round of course at the start of the New Year and we went on our seven consecutive league wins run and took Man City to a replay in the FA Cup.

So let's hope history can repeat itself this season in soem ways and that we can dump Forest out of the cup along the way to boot - but also that we can win our first two post Chirstmas games instead this season - and eventually gain promotion rather than falling away as we did after the seventh straight win last season, started by our defeat, Cardiff away anon of course......

[blueharmie]

went to the game today, first of all the atomosphere was very bad, bery tense from the start but got a bit better after we scored. Expect better after £27 a ticket and the squad we have loosing to a bottom team, how should this be possibe after the millions we have spent?

Our midfield is to blame for sure, Andy King might aswell not have been playing today and wellens is well past his best, well i dont even think ive seen him at his best, ever.

Its annoying coming home from this game knowing our chances of auto promotion have gone. Playoffs will be a bonus.

one last thing, steve howard starting? i was amazed at this, he is an impact sub at best.

great numbers fans wise today let down by a shamble of a performance, not happy. Wellens out.

[lcfcadam]

I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm saying that I think for the benefit of the team saying nothing is better than whining, and moaning. Yeah, we're not gonna agree on it. I don;t pay to 'watch highly paid professionals do their job', I go to support our team. I think it's a pretty cynical way of looking at it to be honest. Others have said it but I think many people just use saturday afternoons as an outlet to vent their frustrations. yes they're well paid but do you honestly, genuinely think that high wages means good performances? It's such an incredibly cold (and flawed) way of looking at it.

Honestly, it sounds like you;d be better off going to watch the tigers - better value for their money. They get paid less and perform better, I'm sure you'll like that more.

Right, I'm not going to take the bait because I'm far, far too good for that. I'll give you the melodramatic two cents and say that I'm now voiceless after "supporting my team" today. I spend a ****ing fortune to see them as often as possible, regardless of form and / or the outlook for each match. But if after 70 minutes, after conceding 2 schoolkid goals, after missing 2 sitters, whilst losing 2-1, I still witness basic, basic ineptitude on the ball - THEN I AM NOT GOING TO CARRY ON PROVIDING INANE HOORAYS, CHEERS AND APPLAUSE. I DO ****ING EXPECT SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR MY SUPPORT AT SOME POINT, AND THE BALL BEING LAUNCHED ONCE AGAIN OVER THE TOUCHLINE IN A FAILED ATTEMPT AT A PASS IS NOT IT. I SPENT MONEY TODAY TO WATCH A SECOND HALF DISPLAY THAT I WOULDN'T CREDIT TO A BUNCH OF SUNDAY LEAGUE AMATEURS, AND YOU ARE ASKING ME TO CARRY ON SUPPORTING THE ****ING TEAM. COME THICK OR THIN?? BOLLOCKS TO THAT!!

[Guest Col city fan]

This is the concern. We started the day 14 points and 14 places above Doncaster, yet you wouldn't have known which side was in which position for the majority of the game.

This is why I said earlier on today that I thought the best we would do was a draw.

We look disorganised, lacking confidence and devoid of ideas at the moment.

I hold my hands up.. Fook knows what on earth is wrong at present.

One thing I do know is that I am sick and tired of having to watch the pussy boy that is Gallagher and if Wellens puts in another performance like he did today I will be starting to think people could be right. The pair of them today were the worst amongst a lot of under par performances.

[DanTheFox07]

Well haven`t we learned that Money can`t buy success! Im personally dredding the jan transfer window! paying the top prices for average player`s who just want a pay cheaque rather than having some hunger to come and achieve something! oh and please Nigel can we play a different midfield next week and perhap`s give schlupp a start!

[Kitchandro]

I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm saying that I think for the benefit of the team saying nothing is better than whining, and moaning. Yeah, we're not gonna agree on it. I don;t pay to 'watch highly paid professionals do their job', I go to support our team. I think it's a pretty cynical way of looking at it to be honest. Others have said it but I think many people just use saturday afternoons as an outlet to vent their frustrations. yes they're well paid but do you honestly, genuinely think that high wages means good performances? It's such an incredibly cold (and flawed) way of looking at it.

Honestly, it sounds like you;d be better off going to watch the tigers - better value for their money. They get paid less and perform better, I'm sure you'll like that more.

No you idiot, I had no bloody frustrations until I started watching the match, that is where my frustrations come from.

Stop talking absolute shite, people who care will generally have a groan when we do something incredibly crap, as the team did many times to day.

I'm not asking you to do the same but if you can't accept people getting frustrated then you don't really understand how fans feel. What you're saying is the kind of rubbish the players come out with.

As Corky says though we were behind the team for most of the game and we chanted in support until the very last, but obviously some fans are going to say 'that's ****ing shit' or whatever when it's an apt description.

I'm fed up of explaining human emotions to halfwits. Just take it on board this time.

[Will1995]

Went to the game today. Kasper has been great all season but was at Fault for the first. Very good finish for the second by sharp. St ledger did nothing drastically wrong and tried to make things happen. Bamba had has hands full with Marc-Antoine Fortuné who I must say was very strong on the ball, ran around and put the effort in, you may dis agree but for a bottom three team I was very impressed with the two up front. Peltier again has been very good this season, didn't notice him if I am honest, just seemed to do what was needed to not get blamed for anything. Will have to wait for the replay but maybe should have been tighter to sharp but to be fair was a vary good hit. The opinion on konchesky seems to be divided. Personally think he has been very solid all season and has got better going forward. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. Carnet fault him today did his job. Not trying to defend the back five today but they were not the mojor problem in my opinion.

The midfield today I don't think was good enough. Wellens was poor on the ball, didn't get stuck in enough and I think has to much depending on him to set up goals and when he plays bad so does the team. I have a view king. Again not saying I am right just what I think. He's playing to deep. King isn't a cm. That isn't his game. He isn't that strong. He is average at tackling and is quite slender in build. He is a very attacking midfielder. Almost a striker just sitting behind the front two. And it is because of this he is playing poorly. Dyer wasn't very affective today end of. And I think his main weakness is his final ball.Just didnt run at people like he normally does. Gallager. Well I'm not the biggest fan. Don't get me wrong. Technically brilliant. But just think about this. He's playing out wide. He carnt tackle, head,isn't strong but he's 6ft. Isn't fast and doesn't rearly beat a Man. Yes capable of good goals. And has sometimes got very good set pieces. However today he didn't beat the first man on corners and this Is an often occurance. Not worth playing him. Would Rarther play dans and have konchesky taking set pieces.

Nugent has been very good this season. Been on a bad run lately. Missed some good chances( Blackpool). But today a very tidy finish. Always runs his socks of and tries his hardest. In my opinion he is not a natural finisher but has worked very hard on it and is very tidy at it. Howard. Carnt believe people have slatted him of. I understand he may not be what some people want. i agree his pace is frustrating. However today I think he gave away a couple of fouls. Not loads. The way he plays he is bound to. Set up the goal with a very simple but good flick. I's still very strong. Won loads in the air and flicked balls on but no one was getting on the end of them. Good presence and always tries his hardest. I do agree he is very old at 35 and not the most mobile. But did what a target man should, strong, dominant, and won headers. Had a good effort saved. Beckford I thought was good when he came on. Bit of pace. A few tricks and tried to get crosses in and a good header.

Look this is just my view on the game. Tried to be as fair as I can. Not trying to defend the team for a game we should win if we want play offs. I know people say we are only six point of but we have got to win games like Peterborough and Doncaster. I think Pearson needs time to builds his own squad. A couple of years I don't mind waiting. However I am concerned by what will happen if we don't get play offs this season. Will the owners pull the plug and leave us in a big mess, remember Pearson will spend in January as well. However I will be there supporting the team as much as I can as i think that the fans need to get behind the team.

[Corky]

Some of you so called 'fans' are the disgrace. I bet you will all be saying 'we are going up' the next game we win. I am genuinely shocked that some of our 'fans' have stooped to Forests level. Get ****ed all you pessimistic twats and dont come back when we beat ipswich. Cnutssss

You criticising people for being pessimistic? When all you seemed to do was slag Sven off, even after we won?

If Sven had been in charge of that today you'd have been first in the queue to slate him from all angles.

[Guest bennytwohats]

How am I taking things out of context?

I had a go at people who have slated them fans, you replied saying our fans are shit.

Anything else you write is irrelevant, it's that that I have an issue with.

When I say our fans are shit - I am referring to the overly negative, keen to get on the backs of the players section of the fans. Which at the KP seems to be a significant amount. Away games are great and I wouldn't falt our fans. I thought I've been clear on that?

[lcfcadam]

When I say our fans are shit - I am referring to the overly negative, keen to get on the backs of the players section of the fans. Which at the KP seems to be a significant amount. Away games are great and I wouldn't falt our fans. I thought I've been clear on that?

The only people who are "keen" to get on the players backs are ****ing wankers. The rest of us really, really would rather not do it, but when it's become blatantly clear that they're a pile of steaming shite yet again then it's very difficult to refrain...

[Collymore]

My main concern is our team spirit. Mills' basically confirmed on Soccer AM today that there had/is problems, even NP has said there are "issues to be addressed"

When I play Football Manager and give myself a sugar daddy I always end up punching the wall saying "this is the last time I play this f**king game, NEVER AGAIN"

My missus then comes up and says "what's the problem?" I then tell her "well I've got 50M to spend and I lose away at Doncaster and I've got all my players afterwards saying they're unhappy with one thing or another..."

She says "Why?" and I say "Well most of them are pissed off because they're not getting first team football and my assistant has warned me that they've been snitching their concerns with their team mates"

she says "well may be you should reassure them "

i say "well I've pressed the reassure button more times you've had hot dinners"

she says "well may be they're getting more pissed off with you not doing what you've said"

I say "YEAH BUT YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

She says "Well why don't you either take on a giant club like Man U or a really small club like Hinckley where you'd be appreciated?"

I say "GO AND DO THE HOOVERING OR SOMETHING EH??? I'M LEICESTER TILL DIE"

**Maybe Nigel is experiencing this in real life?**

[lcfcadam]

Went to the game today. Kasper has been great all season but was at Fault for the first. Very good finish for the second by sharp. St ledger did nothing drastically wrong and tried to make things happen. Bamba had has hands full with Marc-Antoine Fortuné who I must say was very strong on the ball, ran around and put the effort in, you may dis agree but for a bottom three team I was very impressed with the two up front. Peltier again has been very good this season, didn't notice him if I am honest, just seemed to do what was needed to not get blamed for anything. Will have to wait for the replay but maybe should have been tighter to sharp but to be fair was a vary good hit. The opinion on konchesky seems to be divided. Personally think he has been very solid all season and has got better going forward. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. Carnet fault him today did his job. Not trying to defend the back five today but they were not the mojor problem in my opinion. The midfield today I don't think was good enough. Wellens was poor on the ball, didn't get stuck in enough and I think has to much depending on him to set up goals and when he plays bad so does the team. I have a view king. Again not saying I am right just what I think. He's playing to deep. King isn't a cm. That isn't his game. He isn't that strong. He is average at tackling and is quite slender in build. He is a very attacking midfielder. Almost a striker just sitting behind the front two. And it is because of this he is playing poorly. Dyer wasn't very affective today end of. And I think his main weakness is his final ball.Just didnt run at people like he normally does. Gallager. Well I'm not the biggest fan. Don't get me wrong. Technically brilliant. But just think about this. He's playing out wide. He carnt tackle, head,isn't strong but he's 6ft. Isn't fast and doesn't rearly beat a Man. Yes capable of good goals. And has sometimes got very good set pieces. However today he didn't beat the first man on corners and this Is an often occurance. Not worth playing him. Would Rarther play dans and have konchesky taking set pieces. Nugent has been very good this season. Been on a bad run lately. Missed some good chances( Blackpool). But today a very tidy finish. Always runs his socks of and tries his hardest. In my opinion he is not a natural finisher but has worked very hard on it and is very tidy at it. Howard. Carnt believe people have slatted him of. I understand he may not be what some people want. i agree his pace is frustrating. However today I think he gave away a couple of fouls. Not loads. The way he plays he is bound to. Set up the goal with a very simple but good flick. I's still very strong. Won loads in the air and flicked balls on but no one was getting on the end of them. Good presence and always tries his hardest. I do agree he is very old at 35 and not the most mobile. But did what a target man should, strong, dominant, and won headers. Had a good effort saved. Beckford I thought was good when he came on. Bit of pace. A few tricks and tried to get crosses in and a good header. Look this is just my view on the game. Tried to be as fair as I can. Not trying to defend the team for a game we should win if we want play offs. I know people say we are only six point of but we have got to win games like Peterborough and Doncaster. I think Pearson needs time to builds his own squad. A couple of years I don't mind waiting. However I am concerned by what will happen if we don't get play offs this season. Will the owners pull the plug and leave us in a big mess, remember Pearson will spend in January as well. However I will be there supporting the team as much as I can as i think that the fans need to get behind the team.

Fvck me. You might have some good points hidden in there but I'll never see them unless you get some paragraphing sorted out!

[Kitchandro]

When I say our fans are shit - I am referring to the overly negative, keen to get on the backs of the players section of the fans. Which at the KP seems to be a significant amount. Away games are great and I wouldn't falt our fans. I thought I've been clear on that?

No, you haven't been clear on that at all.

In any case I think a minority want to get on the team's back. The majority would love to say something positive about the team but considering where we should be we are underperforming and I don't think that fans are overly-negative at all. There's no point lying through your teeth, there are some bellends who slate us when we don't deserve it and criticise for fun but most of us are just disappointed with the way this season is going, it's embarrassing.

[Guest bennytwohats]

waaaaaa waaaaaaa waaaaaaa

Done with this, I think my point has been made, very clear that you disagree - which is fine. I'm not saying I am happy through thick and thin, just that regardless it's not going to get to a point where I'll moan at the players when I can see it is having a negative effect. The end

[Kitchandro]

Done with this, I think my point has been made, very clear that you disagree - which is fine. I'm not saying I am happy through thick and thin, just that regardless it's not going to get to a point where I'll moan at the players when I can see it is having a negative effect. The end

By that logic, it should have a positive effect when we get behind them, but as we all know from experience, that's absolute bollocks. Maybe if we had a better team, that might help.

People don't shout abuse at them constantly at games, home or away. At home we have a lot of people who sit down and say nothing, and a small amount who just go there and moan. But there's no point moaning about a minority, is there?

[lcfcadam]

Done with this, I think my point has been made, very clear that you disagree - which is fine. I'm not saying I am happy through thick and thin, just that regardless it's not going to get to a point where I'll moan at the players when I can see it is having a negative effect. The end

Perhaps I should be envious of you - if you're able to watch this kind of bullshit week in week out without having a moan at the players then that is actually pretty impressive.

[Will1995]

Fvck me. You might have some good points hidden in there but I'll never see them unless you get some paragraphing sorted out!

Hahaha good point well made. Changed it so it should be ok. That's what a c in English does for you.

[Father Ted]

You criticising people for being pessimistic? When all you seemed to do was slag Sven off, even after we won?

If Sven had been in charge of that today you'd have been first in the queue to slate him from all angles.

I criticised Sven after it was clear that it wasnt working. Not once did I ever moan about the teams performance or call them 'shit *****' or 'were never going to get promoted'. People are giving Pearson some serious stick after how many games? Not once was I pessimistic about the team or our hopes but I criticised Sven heavily towards the end as he was continually making the wrong decisions.

We lost today... We get up and look towards next week. The over reactions on here are pathetic, we sound like Man Utd fans who think they have the God given right to win every match.