inckley fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Firsty, I just want to say to anyone who has slated the fans this season, whether that's people on here or certain players, you can just piss off. We have just sold 6,000 for the Forest game (probably going to be 8,000) and have taken over 2,500 to Doncaster just before Christmas (and to put that into perspective I've been to Fosse Park twice in the last 3 days and it's been far from packed, people are seriously skint) and 80% of us have sang our hearts out today, at a stadium which was half emty at best watching a performance that I can only pick one positive from. That positive was Nugent's goal, he was due one and it was well taken. But throughout the match we were absolutely ****ing terrible, no ideas, no spirit, defended like wankers, and there's no excuses for it. I couldn't even pick out individual performances either way, (though I'd like to see the goals again) I thought everyone was shit and no one was good. Actually, Beckford, of all players, came off the bench and did more than any other ****er did. Glad to see he didn't just throw his toys out the pram and sulk and not try. So fine, there's two positives. Pearson shouldn't have started King and Wellens who are woefully out of form, but it would be easy to blame the manager when there isn't much he can do with these ****wits. Yes this is shitty Doncaster and we should have beaten them, but it is plainly obvious that we desperatley need a couple of midfielders, and not just anyone, real quality players to make the difference, and he hasn't really had a chance to do this. In any case some people should be ashamed of themselves today for that shambles, I was having a ****ing good time until that crappy match, and I knew that come 5pm my good mood would be destroyed. Now when I'm asked about Leicester City in Italy over Christmas I'm going to have to say 'we lost to bleeding Doncaster. Heard of them? No of course you ****ing haven't'. I might just pretend I can't understand what they're saying. We are a midtable team, we are desperate to get the signings spot on in January, otherwise we're screwed, and we'll have to suffer the humiliation of stil being in this division with fans laughing at us all over the country. So yeh, to Wellens, Mills, Danns, and any other player, or poster on here, who keeps slating the fans, please just piss off, you aren't real fans and you can't even begin to imagine how pissed off I am. You have my utmost sympathy - you are a great fan for putting up with this and sticking by your side. I've got a lot of problems with a lot of fans and I think there's been a huge problem with City fans past / present being misguided. But when I go to away games and stand aside the likes of yourself I'm reminded why I support the club. There's 7000-9000 legendary City fans and I'd guess you're among them. I went to hundreds of home games in the late 80s early 90s when we were pushed to get ten thousand fans. Some of them were morons too, but I can't help but think we've picked more than our fair share of add-ons along the way, especially reading some of these comments. Remember that thousands of people paid to see Bob Dylan's ground-breaking electric tour in '66 and paid to do nothing more than berate him. They paid their money and turned up and earned the right to say what they wanted to say. They were still ultimately wrong.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 [/b] Be patient with the likes of King, Wellens, Dyer, Gallagher, Howard you have got be joking. Again you've taken what I said out of context. I'm not saying stick with everything we have - I'm saying we need to change our mindset from this 'instant gratification' thing we have going on. Once Pearson came in this season was never going to be anything more than rebuilding, so be it. King Wells, Gallagher have all put in some quality performances for us over the past few seasons, and Dyer and Howard have their place too (off the bench imo). I mean let's be patient with Pearson and stop reaching for our pitchforks and insisting we buy an whole new squad, it's silly. Yes we need to improve, and yes we could bring some new faces in - but we do have some quality here already, we need to figure out how to get the best out of that, not wipe the slate clean and start again.
l444ry Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 There seems to be a lot of halfwits posting that should have been more careful what you all wished for! Where are all the voices hailing the return of the messiah? Get your arses into gear, support the man, own up and admit your previous views weren't worth a toss and shut the fook up.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Take it then and shut up. **** yourself you tedious little cretin. Your opinion on what constitutes a real fan means nothing to me. Man up and stop being such a bitter cynical whining bitch.
Kitchandro Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 **** yourself you tedious little cretin. Your opinion on what constitutes a real fan means nothing to me. Man up and stop being such a bitter cynical whining bitch. This isn't opinion about the team you tosser, this is about thousands of fans giving a shit and spending hard-earned money on their team and losing their voice trying to get behind them, whilst losers like you always try to bring them down. It's the team letting down the fans you absolute weapon, not the other way around.
eastmidfox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 New on here so first of all hello. I can't believe the panic that is setting in, Pearson will turn things around he is god. Stop panicking.
Lookatthebluesky Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 The City fans (and indeed the players possibly) believe that we have a divine right to beat the likes of Posh and Doncaster but we've seen in recent weeks that this is just not the case. Frustration abounds and the lack of confidence is apparent among the players. Not for the first time, we surrender a lead as panic ensues after an equaliser. The reality is this, Schmeichel is a good keeper at this level and Nugent is a decent forward, who will score goals with the right support and service but beyond this, the team lacks any real quality. For success in any league, you need a couple of players who can turn a match and who are definitely capable of playing at a higher level - I don't believe that the current outfit has enough of those players. The two full-backs, Konchesky and Peltier are sound but lack the real turn of pace to take on opposing full-backs and reach the bye-line when given the opportunity. Bamba will always be responsible for giving goals away because of his continual habit of trying to nick the ball in front of the attackers. Whilst he does this successfully for much of a match, just one error or poorly-timed interception, sees the defence come under great pressure. St. Ledger looks like a rabbit in headlights at this level - too inexperienced. Now onto the much-maligned midfield. There is definitely a lack of creativity but as a team, we look very vulnerable when teams are running at us, simply because our players lack the legs to cover the necessary ground. King is anonymous of late. Wellens can still 'see a pass' but his legs have gone. Gallagher is so frustrating - lack of work ethic, lack of pace, cannot beat a defender on the outside and does not do enough defensive work, he fakes a tackle. Dyer has pace but no anticipation and always reacts too late to make his pace count. His lack of touch and poor delivery from promising positions only compound the problems playing him. In attack, I like Nugent and he will be good for a number of goals in this league. Howard has clearly had his day, again no legs and too predictable to play against - how he was selected ahead of Beckford, I do not know because as disappointing as Beckford has been, I do believe that he poses a far greater threat (or will do in time) than Howard ever will - retirement looms I'm afraid Stevie! Getting to the bye-line and delivering the ball to on-running attackers gives defences great problems, as do midfielders who arrive late in the box (as King has shown in the past) but City do neither of these enough - too many hopeful balls lofted into the box, no pace on the ball, all too easy to defend against. Forgive the length of my first post but such a disappointing drive back from Donny today!
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 This isn't opinion about the team you tosser, this is about thousands of fans giving a shit and spending hard-earned money on their team and losing their voice trying to get behind them, whilst losers like you always try to bring them down. It's the team letting down the fans you absolute weapon, not the other way around. But they don't though. I'm not arguing that the fans are letting the team down, or that the reverse isn't true, so stop being a presumptuous ****. Point is there is a way to support your team, and voice your disappointment - moaning and booing them during a game isn't it. I'll never understand the sense of entitlement that some fans have. If you're only interested in the team if it's doing well and winning **** off and watch Manchester City? Just as you are entitled to be disappointed with the results, I (and many others) are well within our rights to be disappointed to go to a home game and find out that a large portion of the fans would rather get on their teams backs rather than support them.
NiftyFox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 The City fans (and indeed the players possibly) believe that we have a divine right to beat the likes of Posh and Doncaster but we've seen in recent weeks that this is just not the case. Frustration abounds and the lack of confidence is apparent among the players. Not for the first time, we surrender a lead as panic ensues after an equaliser. The reality is this, Schmeichel is a good keeper at this level and Nugent is a decent forward, who will score goals with the right support and service but beyond this, the team lacks any real quality. For success in any league, you need a couple of players who can turn a match and who are definitely capable of playing at a higher level - I don't believe that the current outfit has enough of those players. The two full-backs, Konchesky and Peltier are sound but lack the real turn of pace to take on opposing full-backs and reach the bye-line when given the opportunity. Bamba will always be responsible for giving goals away because of his continual habit of trying to nick the ball in front of the attackers. Whilst he does this successfully for much of a match, just one error or poorly-timed interception, sees the defence come under great pressure. St. Ledger looks like a rabbit in headlights at this level - too inexperienced. Now onto the much-maligned midfield. There is definitely a lack of creativity but as a team, we look very vulnerable when teams are running at us, simply because our players lack the legs to cover the necessary ground. King is anonymous of late. Wellens can still 'see a pass' but his legs have gone. Gallagher is so frustrating - lack of work ethic, lack of pace, cannot beat a defender on the outside and does not do enough defensive work, he fakes a tackle. Dyer has pace but no anticipation and always reacts too late to make his pace count. His lack of touch and poor delivery from promising positions only compound the problems playing him. In attack, I like Nugent and he will be good for a number of goals in this league. Howard has clearly had his day, again no legs and too predictable to play against - how he was selected ahead of Beckford, I do not know because as disappointing as Beckford has been, I do believe that he poses a far greater threat (or will do in time) than Howard ever will - retirement looms I'm afraid Stevie! Getting to the bye-line and delivering the ball to on-running attackers gives defences great problems, as do midfielders who arrive late in the box (as King has shown in the past) but City do neither of these enough - too many hopeful balls lofted into the box, no pace on the ball, all too easy to defend against. Forgive the length of my first post but such a disappointing drive back from Donny today! A great post, summed up the game and team up nicely.
NiftyFox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 We have to remember this league is so tough these days and unpredictable. Pearson will get the players up for Ipswich and we'll go on a winning streak, you just watch. Always back your side through the highs and lows and we're not halfway yet.
Kitchandro Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 But they don't though. I'm not arguing that the fans are letting the team down, or that the reverse isn't true, so stop being a presumptuous ****. Point is there is a way to support your team, and voice your disappointment - moaning and booing them during a game isn't it. I'll never understand the sense of entitlement that some fans have. If you're only interested in the team if it's doing well and winning **** off and watch Manchester City? Just as you are entitled to be disappointed with the results, I (and many others) are well within our rights to be disappointed to go to a home game and find out that a large portion of the fans would rather get on their teams backs rather than support them. Who boos during the game? Individuals maybe once in a blue moon, an amount worth mentioning on here, no. Moaning occurs when passionate fans get pissed off with a team letting them down. Yeh, I moan at matches sometimes in the heat of the moment, I moan on here, because my emotions take control, because I care. I'm not just interested when we're doing well and winning, you tool, hence why I went to bleeding Doncaster, hence why I started going to games regularly when we got relegated in league one, hence why I have a season ticket, hence why if I can afford to go and I have the opportunity to go I will, and we aren't exactly good, are we? And we haven't been for quite some time. No one WANTS to get on the teams back, everyone wants them to win, but they are letting us down, that's why people are upset and complaining. But if you think we didn't get behind our team today then you didn't go and don't deserve to have a negative opinion on us. The lifeblood of the club is it's fans, and ours are great, so you'll get no patience from me if you want to slate us and stick up for some of the disgraceful 'professionals' that 'play' for us.
eastmidfox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 We have to remember this league is so tough these days and unpredictable. Pearson will get the players up for Ipswich and we'll go on a winning streak, you just watch. Always back your side through the highs and lows and we're not halfway yet. Yes but after all the money we have spent we should be walking the division, i'm sure Pearson will turn it around though and get us playing some atractive football.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Yes but after all the money we have spent we should be walking the division, i'm sure Pearson will turn it around though and get us playing some atractive football. Money doesn't guarantee success you only have to look at where we are in the table. The money we have spent to date hasn't been spent wisely in hindsight.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 I'm sick of being duped by this team. Under performing week in week out. Tuning in to listen against sides like Doncaster is depressing enough. But to be put through that debacle is a disgrace. A MAJOR shake up in January is required. Wellens - not good enough Gally - not good enough King - what's happened to you??? Dyer - not good enough St Ledger - not good enough Beckford - not good enough Howard - too old I'm well pissed off. We can forget anything this season. Although if we carry on like this a relegation scrap looms! This
glen parva fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Pearson is running scared, too much expectation on his head, he's never been in this situation before. Think he's looking too much to his old favourites but they have had their day. Too much of the same for me.
Legend_in_blue Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 We have to remember this league is so tough these days and unpredictable. Pearson will get the players up for Ipswich and we'll go on a winning streak, you just watch. Always back your side through the highs and lows and we're not halfway yet. This league is not tough. That is the problem. Mentally, you think this league is tough, the players do as well and it shows in their play, but really it isn't. It isn't at all. Had we won today, and really we should have, and have picked up the two wins at home instead of those two awful results we had at the beginnning of the season, we'd be 4 points off 1st and 2nd. That shows how poor this league is. You can be as poor as we are and yet three wins we should have had, even playing only half decent football, would have seen us 4 points off the auto's. Now turn round and tell me this league is tough. It ain't. You just need the mental belief that you can beat anyone. Mentally, we are weak.
Happy Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 This league is not tough. That is the problem. Mentally, you think this league is tough, the players do as well and it shows in their play, but really it isn't. It isn't at all. Had we won today, and really we should have, and have picked up the two wins at home instead of those two awful results we had at the beginnning of the season, we'd be 4 points off 1st and 2nd. That shows how poor this league is. You can be as poor as we are and yet three wins we should have had, even playing only half decent football, would have seen us 4 points off the auto's. Now turn round and tell me this league is tough. It ain't. You just need the mental belief that you can beat anyone. Mentally, we are weak. Spot on, the player's deflect attention saying we are going for top two because they know they are shit and trying to make up excuses time and time again.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Who boos during the game? Individuals maybe once in a blue moon, an amount worth mentioning on here, no. Moaning occurs when passionate fans get pissed off with a team letting them down. Yeh, I moan at matches sometimes in the heat of the moment, I moan on here, because my emotions take control, because I care. I'm not just interested when we're doing well and winning, you tool, hence why I went to bleeding Doncaster, hence why I started going to games regularly when we got relegated in league one, hence why I have a season ticket, hence why if I can afford to go and I have the opportunity to go I will, and we aren't exactly good, are we? And we haven't been for quite some time. No one WANTS to get on the teams back, everyone wants them to win, but they are letting us down, that's why people are upset and complaining. But if you think we didn't get behind our team today then you didn't go and don't deserve to have a negative opinion on us. The lifeblood of the club is it's fans, and ours are great, so you'll get no patience from me if you want to slate us and stick up for some of the disgraceful 'professionals' that 'play' for us. I never once made a comment about our fans today, not once. You're taking what I said way out of context, but whatever - seems you are happy to do that, I'll leave you to it. But for the record, I think there are constructive and negative ways to go about things. Moaning at your team is negative, cheering them on is positive. If you can't bring yourself to do that, say nothing. You can talk about whatever you want, but for some people, having to go and listen to people get on the players backs given the first opportunity sucks the fun out of it. I've never seen it happen at away games to be fair, but the KP is a nightmare for it, all it takes is one stray pass. Anyway, so that we're clear - my point was only that the reactions from a lot of people on here are very OTT, we need some new faces sure, but we shouldn;t be panic buying or we'll be right back where we are. We have some decent players here, that has been shown - now we need to do what we can to get them playing well, which may mean a couple of new faces, panic buying a whole squad isn't the answer. Anyone who thinks a team should 'walk the divison' with or without the money we've spent has their head in some other place. Takes a lot more than that to get out of this league.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Firsty, I just want to say to anyone who has slated the fans this season, whether that's people on here or certain players, you can just piss off. We have just sold 6,000 for the Forest game (probably going to be 8,000) and have taken over 2,500 to Doncaster just before Christmas (and to put that into perspective I've been to Fosse Park twice in the last 3 days and it's been far from packed, people are seriously skint) and 80% of us have sang our hearts out today, at a stadium which was half emty at best watching a performance that I can only pick one positive from. That positive was Nugent's goal, he was due one and it was well taken. But throughout the match we were absolutely ****ing terrible, no ideas, no spirit, defended like wankers, and there's no excuses for it. I couldn't even pick out individual performances either way, (though I'd like to see the goals again) I thought everyone was shit and no one was good. Actually, Beckford, of all players, came off the bench and did more than any other ****er did. Glad to see he didn't just throw his toys out the pram and sulk and not try. So fine, there's two positives. Pearson shouldn't have started King and Wellens who are woefully out of form, but it would be easy to blame the manager when there isn't much he can do with these ****wits. Yes this is shitty Doncaster and we should have beaten them, but it is plainly obvious that we desperatley need a couple of midfielders, and not just anyone, real quality players to make the difference, and he hasn't really had a chance to do this. In any case some people should be ashamed of themselves today for that shambles, I was having a ****ing good time until that crappy match, and I knew that come 5pm my good mood would be destroyed. Now when I'm asked about Leicester City in Italy over Christmas I'm going to have to say 'we lost to bleeding Doncaster. Heard of them? No of course you ****ing haven't'. I might just pretend I can't understand what they're saying. We are a midtable team, we are desperate to get the signings spot on in January, otherwise we're screwed, and we'll have to suffer the humiliation of stil being in this division with fans laughing at us all over the country. So yeh, to Wellens, Mills, Danns, and any other player, or poster on here, who keeps slating the fans, please just piss off, you aren't real fans and you can't even begin to imagine how pissed off I am.
Guy Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 I didn't go to the game today so I don't know how badly we played to lose it or how well Donny played to win it etc etc but casting a quick eye over this season's results to date......then even to a relative armchair fan like me who lives many miles away from Leicester these days and can only get up to see odd games per season, it spells out that so far we've not been good enough to even be play off contenders, let alone automatic promotion! Struggling sides like Bristol City, Reading (at the time), Millwall and now Doncaster have all now beaten us this season already and who's to say these teams won't complete their doubles over us in part two at the rate we're going?! While it's true to say that the likes of West Ham and Southampton have had a wobbly December so far, you generally sense that their next win is their next game and it invariably is! We've not won a match since last month's win over Blackpool now and have lost two from the last three against opposition who we have a superior squad to and should be stuffing basically!! While I'm hoping irony will strike now in the next two festive games against Ipswich and Portsmouth and with it we actually win back to back games to boot (especially as I'm actually going to both those games!), I personally can't see it and I dare say I'm far from being alone in my thoughts! I don't like to feel as if I'm jumping on the was bringing Pearson back a good idea bandwagon but I can't help but wonder now what would've happened had we stuck with Sven and Fazackerley and where we'd be now? Talk is cheap I know but the experts often say "never go back" re managers but I hope Pearson can turn it around. I don't think it's as good as his team he had here in the Championship play offs season two years ago and some of the players from back then have definitely lost their way since then (Wellens, King, Gallagher, Dyer at times) plus they do miss the likes of Fryatt, Waghorn from that season up front. Stevie Howard is still about from the last Pearson side I know but he is in and out of the side and another two years older now too of course, in other words not good enough any longer. The present situation has also not been helped by the intervening managerial upheavals since of course (Sousa, Sven.....) and I bet Pearson is starting to regret his return right now, even if his own personal bank account isn't maybe! Hopefully it'll be a different story in a month's time though.....
Corky Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 We had all the talk in the week of "no more slip-ups". Well there's the first. Who knows when the next will be? Once again a large following head to an away game. Once again they are let down by the players and management. I don't want to go through the game (for 60 minutes it was a shocker). What worries me most is that it took until we were 2-1 down to really get a head of steam going. Why couldn't we have done that at 1-0 up and looked to finish the game? You just left feeling fed up and a sense of deja-vu. We've been here before, and it doesn't get any more pleasant.
lcfcadam Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 I think there are constructive and negative ways to go about things. Moaning at your team is negative, cheering them on is positive. If you can't bring yourself to do that, say nothing. "Get in there Wellens, straight out of play once again when the simple pass was there!" "Awesome Kingy, another perfect execution of absolutely ****-all when you had acres of space!" "Yes Gally!! Dispossessed again because you weren't thinking quickly enough!!" You should probably see where I'm going.
WardyisPukka Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 This league is not tough. That is the problem. Mentally, you think this league is tough, the players do as well and it shows in their play, but really it isn't. It isn't at all. Had we won today, and really we should have, and have picked up the two wins at home instead of those two awful results we had at the beginnning of the season, we'd be 4 points off 1st and 2nd. That shows how poor this league is. You can be as poor as we are and yet three wins we should have had, even playing only half decent football, would have seen us 4 points off the auto's. Now turn round and tell me this league is tough. It ain't. You just need the mental belief that you can beat anyone. Mentally, we are weak. I think this league is tough !! Sorry but anyone can beat anyone on their day!! thats the beauty of this league!! but yes we are so mentally weak and devoid of any ideas !! If Pearson doesnt see are midfield is probably the weakest in the top ten then he is more stupid and tatically inept that i ever thought he was !!!
glen parva fox Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Can't see many going to the Palace, I have only missed 1away league game but not going to this need to re-charge the batteries and have a brain transplant so I can forget the first half of the season.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 December 2011 Posted 17 December 2011 Today we were generally pants really. BUT.. We lost due to a sensational second goal from an in form striker. Having been at the game we were deffo the better team and AGAIN squandered plenty of chances. Wellens missed a couple, Stevie had a header turned over that he should have scored, Beckford looked good and came close late on. AGAIN.. Only Nuge seems to be able to hit the back of the net at present. I'm afraid Sharp did, and was the difference between two very very average sides.
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