Michael Johnson

[RumbleFox]

Yeah I think talking about people being "too rich" for depression is fvckning out of order. What about people with one arm? Should they not get upset about it because there are some people with no arms? You can always point to someone in a worse position. Depression is an ilness; a chemical imbalance in the brain and all the money in the world cannae fix that.

Anyway, good luck to him I say.

X

[Jimbo]

if i had the choice, i would rather be depressed with millions in the bank. who knows, i might even manage to drag myself to the bahamas during my summer break, and drink a cold lager on a yacht in crystal clear waters. i would probably still be depressed, but it might soften the blow a touch.

Yeah because that's how depression works.

All the money in the world wouldn't "soften the blow" It's not a choice, you don't just feel sorry for yourself or feel unhappy.

[Raw Dykes]

Typical - I have a dig and then I find out he may have a bad illness or suffer from depression. If he really does have problems, then I apologise.

It is a real shame he hasn't yet made a comeback from being out injured at Man City. I really hoped we had made a great signing when he arrived. I thought him dropping down a division would give a great chance to get his career back on track, and it's disappointing that he's barely featured at all so far.

If he's just not putting the effort in, then I have no sympathy, but if he really is suffering, then I hope he can get well soon and put it behind him.

[Master Fox]

Can't believe people are calling him fat? Maybe for a professional athlete but i'm pretty sure he is probably in better shape than 99.9% of the people who post here.

[Out Foxed]

Can't believe people are calling him fat? Maybe for a professional athlete but i'm pretty sure he is probably in better shape than 99.9% of the people who post here.

i think 100% of your comment is exaggeration

[Salieri]

Just to clarify......I never said he was too rich to be depressed or any bullshit like that I implied that at least he was in the (fortunate) position of being able to deal with it without having to work despite feeling like shit.

If I was really depressed (and I have suffered depression in the past) I would still have to get up and go and do my job to the best of my ability or I would eventually get the boot, then potentially lose the roof over my head etc etc. Having a couple of young kids and a mortgage means it's simply not an option and no matter how bad I felt inside myself I would have to still go out and earn the money necessary to keep our heads above water.

I don't know what is difficult to understand about the point I am making. I don't know whether the lad is depressed or not, none of us do and I certainly haven't said anything bad about him.

[shade]

Yeah I think talking about people being "too rich" for depression is fvckning out of order. What about people with one arm? Should they not get upset about it because there are some people with no arms? You can always point to someone in a worse position. Depression is an ilness; a chemical imbalance in the brain and all the money in the world cannae fix that.

Anyway, good luck to him I say.

X

they do say rumbelows, in the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

[Stadt]

looks as fat as when he arrived (picture from the ressies v nike academy)

Wan't this ages ago?

[Guest Col city fan]

Just to clarify......I never said he was too rich to be depressed or any bullshit like that I implied that at least he was in the (fortunate) position of being able to deal with it without having to work despite feeling like shit.

If I was really depressed (and I have suffered depression in the past) I would still have to get up and go and do my job to the best of my ability or I would eventually get the boot, then potentially lose the roof over my head etc etc. Having a couple of young kids and a mortgage means it's simply not an option and no matter how bad I felt inside myself I would have to still go out and earn the money necessary to keep our heads above water.

I don't know what is difficult to understand about the point I am making. I don't know whether the lad is depressed or not, none of us do and I certainly haven't said anything bad about him.

This makes no sense mate to be honest.

If you are clinically depressed you literally can't 'get up and go'... In fact, in most cases you can't 'get up' at all.

The term 'depression' is so incorrectly used. Being 'low in mood' can be horrendous, but is not the same as 'being depressed'..

When present, depression affects the sufferers in much the same way.. Regardless of their status.

In actual fact, it can sometimes be even more traumatising for those who 'have', simply because they 'have more to lose'.

Clinical depression ain't selective Salieri.. It affects all walks of life.

[Salieri]

Clinical depression ain't selective Salieri.. It affects all walks of life.

Again, where have I said it doesn't?

[Salieri]

A mate of mines wife died of cancer, aged 32 leaving him a widow with two young kids (aged 3 and 5). He wanted to crawl in a hole and die, he was as far 'clinically depressed' as you can be.

But, you know what, he didn't pack it in, because he simply couldn't for the sake of his kids. He found the strength to carry on because he had to.

This has nothing to do with what Johnson may or may not be going through, it's simply pointing out that sometimes people have to find the strength to 'pull themselves together' (for want of a better phrase) because they have too.

[Guest Col city fan]

Again, where have I said it doesn't?

Weren't you, only a few posts ago, talking about people 'in the real world' having to 'get on with it'.

Do you not think that footballers live in the 'real world' or are you suggesting that they don't and you do?

Again, clinical depression, when it takes hold, will affect those people exactly the same as it does anybody else.

Finally, you claimed that you wouldnt give Johnno 'an iota of sympathy'.

If, as you said, you were depressed yourself then i think having that attitude towards another person who too may have suffered the same condition is a shame.

Look back at what you said....

I simply don't agree with you.

[shade]

don't drugs and therapy work for depression then? not many illnesses are untreatable these days.

[Callabinho]

I think Ronaldo (Luiz) is living proof.

[Guest Col city fan]

don't drugs and therapy work for depression then? not many illnesses are untreatable these days.

There are two main 'types' of depression:

Endogenous (from within) is a depression where the person feels depressed for no obvious reason. This typically starts as feeling 'down in the dumps', but you can't really identify why. Most people will 'get over' this feeling, but when it continues for some time and becomes worse it can lead to a clinical depression.

Reactionary depression occurs as a result of an external phenomenon..eg. loss of a job, death of a spouse, etc.. Therefore, the person becomes depressed due to an identifiable problem. People typically then go through a grieving process, until they come out the other end.

Reactionary depression is more common than endogenous depression.

Both 'types' can respond very well to medication (anti-depressants) or various types of counselling. Counselling services are usually offered at GP Surgeries these days.

However, sometimes people can become so depressed that they may require 'electro-convulsive therapy' (ECT). However, this is rare.

Finally, and sadly, some people will not respond to treatment and may make the decision to take their own lives. Again, this is rare.

Its usually best to go to see your Doctor if you are feeling low as he/she will be able to prescribe medication and/or signpost onto appropriate services.

Of course, there are many websites which will provide this information and more...

[_Fatboyslow_]

Can I please ask when either the Club or Johnson said that Johnson is suffering from depression? as all I can recall is Pearson saying that Johnson is unfit.

[wellyfox]

Not often I agree with you col city fan But I +1 both your post's on This page.

My partner suffers (yeah i know No wonder living with me) she ran out of meds the other week sounds daft but what a fvcking drama cos we needed to get milk the nxt day she must have told me 20 time's. When you do suffer or know/live with someone that does you realise can be really silly things like needing milk that plays on there mind.

I suffer a little but I know why and cope n when I feel down just think of good things.

No wonder I suffer coming on here and being a city fan .

mine will be fine when I am fit again.

[Guest Col city fan]

Not often I agree with you col city fan But I +1 both your post's on This page.

My partner suffers (yeah i know No wonder living with me) she ran out of meds the other week sounds daft but what a fvcking drama cos we needed to get milk the nxt day she must have told me 20 time's. When you do suffer or know/live with someone that does you realise can be really silly things like needing milk that plays on there mind.

I suffer a little but I know why and cope n when I feel down just think of good things.

No wonder I suffer coming on here and being a city fan .

mine will be fine when I am fit again.

Cheers buddy. I know I can come over as an arrogant twat sometimes but that's just cos I love the club and believe in what I'm saying. But then again, we all do don't we...

Have a good day pal