Stan Collymore's Comment

[jonlcfc1990]

Stan Collymore @StanCollymore

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If you're a customer,boo. Real fans don't boo their own. It's called support through thick and thin. #toomanycustomers

Stan made this comment when Arsenal were 0-2 down at home against Villa the home fans had turned on the players and made the game more hostile for them to play their game and the pressure was severely put on the home team. Arsenal came back to win 3-2 and the fans attitude had changed into a state of delirium and joy and yet in the corner of the away end sat the Villa fans. Did they leave? Did they boo? No they continued to support and cheer their team for the full 90 all 5 goals 3 against and 2 for them but they were there for one reason. To support the team. We are in a good run of form everyone loves the players and the team but are these the same people who joined together and booed the players off at Barnsley and turned the second half atmosphere into one of anger frustration and volatility? I don't think a true fan can ever boo their team or the players and then turn around the next game to give them a standing ovation? it's just fickle customers who unfortunately get managers sacked suck the confidence out of players and get everyone wound up E.G we lost to Barnsley someone actually wanted to get Warnock? i mean WTF is that all about! . I don't want to come across as a downer or anything but I've seen nearly every game i can possibly go to this season and the form is a welcome turn around but I just hate how at home you can round the number of fans singing to about 5000 odd but the amount booing is nearly treble that now how are we ever going to win if we don't get behind the team?

[Jace]

To be fair booing doesn’t really achieve much but Im sure in some circumstances it is justified so I do agree with him to a certain degree. Then again I believe real men don't go dogging

[davieG]

Well I don't and never have booed but you could equally argue in the Arsenal case it worked and that it was the booing that got the team off it's arse and started to play like they wanted to win,

[Christoph]

I agree with the whole supporters > customers thing. But if your a dad taking one or two of your sons for a day out, add the tickets, petrol and food and your coming up to well over £50+, so your naturally goign to be a bit annoyed if your losing to a team your team should really be beating. It does frustrate me when fans boo though, makes me a bit embarrassed im in the same stadium, especially when you see some fans at other clubs, saying that, our away support is much better, so its not all doom and gloom.

[Saxondale]

People don't boo when the players are genuinely outclassed, only when the effort is substandard.

[jonlcfc1990]

To be fair booing doesn’t really achieve much but Im sure in some circumstances it is justified so I do agree with him to a certain degree. Then again I believe real men don't go dogging

Very true

[Captain...]

Does no one think there could be a link between the booing at Barnsley and the turn around in attitude?

Or the booing at half time of Arsenal and a stirring, if fortuitous, comeback.

Martin O'Neill may still have a chip on his shoulder about the Sheff United game and the booing, but for me that game was a turning point.

In the same way some players react better to the hairdryer treatment than comforting arm after a bad performance, players will react to the fans in the same way. Booing, like throwing cups around the dressing room and giving players a bollocking has its place. I firmly believe that boong at the end of a game is a valid way of showing your displeasure, not during the game and not over substitutions, but at the end of the game, or at half time.

[jonlcfc1990]

I agree with the whole supporters > customers thing. But if your a dad taking one or two of your sons for a day out, add the tickets, petrol and food and your coming up to well over £50+, so your naturally goign to be a bit annoyed if your losing to a team your team should really be beating. It does frustrate me when fans boo though, makes me a bit embarrassed im in the same stadium, especially when you see some fans at other clubs, saying that, our away support is much better, so its not all doom and gloom.

It's a good point i tried to adress all of the points but i didn't want to go on a rant i can see where your coming from and especially the amount of money that it costs to go to a match now is mental.

[flowwolf]

People don't boo when the players are genuinely outclassed, only when the effort is substandard.

Absolutely spot on Bornblue. The one thing Leicester fans in particular will not stand for is lack of effort. It was totally missing in the Barnsely game yet on show in buckets full against Southampton so it's not as if they were not capable off giving 100% effort it's just that the could not be bothered on too many occasions this season. That is why fans feel frustrated and booed.

[ithuriel]

Have never booed the team,in the extreme i might have a go at individual players if they deserve some stick but never boo.

Against Barnsley i did not boo but understood it, one to many sub standard performances from this season by players who talked the talk but did not walk the walk

[Guest Col city fan]

Does no one think there could be a link between the booing at Barnsley and the turn around in attitude?

Or the booing at half time of Arsenal and a stirring, if fortuitous, comeback.

Martin O'Neill may still have a chip on his shoulder about the Sheff United game and the booing, but for me that game was a turning point.

In the same way some players react better to the hairdryer treatment than comforting arm after a bad performance, players will react to the fans in the same way. Booing, like throwing cups around the dressing room and giving players a bollocking has its place. I firmly believe that boong at the end of a game is a valid way of showing your displeasure, not during the game and not over substitutions, but at the end of the game, or at half time.

No, I doubt there is any correlation.

The right half time team talk is what's needed.

There are tons and tons of examples where teams who have been booed at half time come out and play just as badly second half.

I genuinely feel that the reason most fans boo is due to a lack of perceived EFFORT that their team is putting in. If a team goes in at half time, or full time for that matter, having lost four-three after an entertaining game of football then they are usually applauded, or not booed at least.

If they go in having lost one-nil and having created no chances during the game then they are more likely to be booed.

[Captain...]

No, I doubt there is any correlation.

The right half time team talk is what's needed.

There are tons and tons of examples where teams who have been booed at half time come out and play just as badly second half.

I genuinely feel that the reason most fans boo is due to a lack of perceived EFFORT that their team is putting in. If a team goes in at half time, or full time for that matter, having lost four-three after an entertaining game of football then they are usually applauded, or not booed at least.

If they go in having lost one-nil and having created no chances during the game then they are more likely to be booed.

Of course, I would never boo just because we lost, I don't know how I would feel to have 5,000 people boo me, but when I play football and at half time or full time I know when I have played badly, but it being commented on by others makes it worse and makes me more determined not to play badly again.

I think all footballers want to please the fans, so I think it is important to let them know when we are happy as when we are not, if it does motivate them then great, but of course it can be counter productive.

[jonlcfc1990]

If booing becomes more and more acceptable can you still be a supporter? or are you the customer? I think there is a big difference isn't there?

[cc_star]

I've booed on quite a few occasions after the final whistle, but never ever before it.

I was one of the fans away at Notts County years ago cheering for Brian Carey to be sent off when we were being thrashed by Notts (think it finished 4-1 could have been about 10), that is the closes I've got to calling our own team & not actively supporting during the actual match.

[RonnieTodger]

Absolutely spot on Bornblue. The one thing Leicester fans in particular will not stand for is lack of effort. It was totally missing in the Barnsely game yet on show in buckets full against Southampton so it's not as if they were not capable off giving 100% effort it's just that the could not be bothered on too many occasions this season. That is why fans feel frustrated and booed.

Very true. The perfect example of this was the West Ham game at Upton park earlier this season. The reaction to our fans when Beckford got taken off was disgusting. To those that didn't see or hear it. Beckford was taken off after around an hour of the game, to make way for Steve Howard. He had a fairly poor game and was his normal self in making unspotted runs or not doing enough. When he was eventually taken off, a huge cheer was let out by the Leicester fans. He turned round to us, as if to say, what? Then the worst bit was several hundred out of the 3,000 swearing their nuts off booing and telling him to "**** off". However, even though we lost 3-2, it was a great performance in the 2nd half, which the fans appreciated and every player that came over at the end was applauded for their efforts. That game summed up our fans for me.

[Captain...]

I guess one of the problems with booing is that it is aimed at the whole team, and someone like Schmeichel who did nothing wrong at Barnsley is the recipient of the boos as much as those that deserved.

The alternative would be worse though to single out layers and boo them, have negative chants.

I guess the alternative is to just focus on chanting the names of those players putting the effort in.

I do wonder if players read these forums, I think if I was a footballer and I knew that people were talking about me on an open forum, I think I would struggle to resist reading it. I do wonder if that could be more damaging than booing.

[jonlcfc1990]

Very true. The perfect example of this was the West Ham game at Upton park earlier this season. The reaction to our fans when Beckford got taken off was disgusting. To those that didn't see or hear it. Beckford was taken off after around an hour of the game, to make way for Steve Howard. He had a fairly poor game and was his normal self in making unspotted runs or not doing enough. When he was eventually taken off, a huge cheer was let out by the Leicester fans. He turned round to us, as if to say, what? Then the worst bit was several hundred out of the 3,000 swearing their nuts off booing and telling him to "**** off". However, even though we lost 3-2, it was a great performance in the 2nd half, which the fans appreciated and every player that came over at the end was applauded for their efforts. That game summed up our fans for me.

This is what angers me. As a fan i feel ashamed of a player receiving that kind of abuse from his own fans! and yet these people who slagged him off are probably singing his praises now he's scoring goals absolute fickleness personified

[Saxondale]

I guess one of the problems with booing is that it is aimed at the whole team, and someone like Schmeichel who did nothing wrong at Barnsley is the recipient of the boos as much as those that deserved.

This is true. But, to be fair, Kasper did get an ovation of his own down at the family end after all the booing had calmed down.

[Steam]

I can understand fans frustration, when booing.

What I never understand is booing individuals who haven't kicked the football yet, to use another Arsenal example, when Arshavin came on for Chamberlain the other day, the Arsenal fans booed. Now they may have been booing Wenger for the change, but how is the player to determine that. No wonder he had no confidence when he came on and played poorly, shocking behaviour by the fans.

[Captain...]

I can understand fans frustration, when booing.

What I never understand is booing individuals who haven't kicked the football yet, to use another Arsenal example, when Arshavin came on for Chamberlain the other day, the Arsenal fans booed. Now they may have been booing Wenger for the change, but how is the player to determine that. No wonder he had no confidence when he came on and played poorly, shocking behaviour by the fans.

Agree with that, I would only boo at the end of the game, or after a particularly bad half.

[davieG]

If booing becomes more and more acceptable can you still be a supporter? or are you the customer? I think there is a big difference isn't there?

Clubs have turned fans into customers mostly against their wishes so that must accept the consequences in terms of criticism and for many the only way they feel they have of showing their displeasure at what has been offered for a considerable outlay is to boo.

[jonlcfc1990]

Clubs have turned fans into customers mostly against their wishes so that must accept the consequences in terms of criticism and for many the only way they feel they have of showing their displeasure at what has been offered for a considerable outlay is to boo.

I think this is true and that makes me sad i guess i'm not the only one feeling more alienated from the club at the moment

[dave the caveman]

Sick of this booing debate. The players don't care, it doesnt make any difference to them whatsoever. The arsenal game is evidence of that.

Boo if you want, don't if you don't. Stop dreaming that anyone cares what you think either way.

[Jace]

When we were relegated from the Premiership and came bottom of the league the team got a standing ovation so Leicester fans can't be that bad

[The Blur]

Sick of this booing debate. The players don't care, it doesnt make any difference to them whatsoever. The arsenal game is evidence of that.

Boo if you want, don't if you don't. Stop dreaming that anyone cares what you think either way.

I disagreed, if someone is hurling abuse at me, I would care- it is in human nature to react- positively or negatively depends on the player's character of course. It is almost impossible to completely shrug off any vitrol in all walks of life.