Ashley Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 He scored for Manchester City reserves the other night when did he get sent back? Paddy Agyemang told me who posts on here. I haven't seen anything to suggest he has gone back?
Out Foxed Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 there's a few threads. a couple of weeks ago. he played against NEC reserves in his first game back and scored one of the greatest goals of all time.
blue army 1988 Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 It's a little wierd Pearson didn't play him and claimed he wasnt fit and/or ill and then he goes back, plays well (from what i've heard) and bags a good goal.
Ashley Posted 27 March 2012 Author Posted 27 March 2012 Thanks for the replies. Our OS is actually terrible. Mods delete or merge thread. Thank you.
General Smuts Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Paddy Agyemang plays for Stevenage now and is an absolute UNIT. He's dogshite now since not playing for so long, but I still love him.
wellyfox Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Who cares we paid his wages and he was not fit should have been sent packing in september. Yet another waste of fvcking money.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Who cares we paid his wages and he was not fit should have been sent packing in september. Yet another waste of fvcking money. Indeed....
Jace Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Who cares we paid his wages and he was not fit should have been sent packing in september. Yet another waste of fvcking money. Daylight robbery paid his wages so Man City didn't have to whilst he had half a year off fitness training on £25000 a week. Hope he gets a Neil Danns tackle soon!
Dan Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Another brilliant signing by Sven. The contrast in signings by Sven/Pearson is astounding and I seriously can't see why people would rather have Sven.
foxesfan1989 Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Another brilliant signing by Sven. The contrast in signings by Sven/Pearson is astounding and I seriously can't see why people would rather have Sven. Konhesky, Nugent, Peltier, Beckford, Kasper, St Ledger, Danns. Svens signings haven't all been good but the spine of our team is made up of his signings. I love Nigel, and perhaps he is better fitted to the job than Sven, but how quickly you have forgotten what Sven did (or tried to do) for this club.
foxesfan1989 Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Sven brought us Yakubu and Naughton last year as well. Both now Prem regulars.
wellyfox Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Another brilliant signing by Sven. The contrast in signings by Sven/Pearson is astounding and I seriously can't see why people would rather have Sven. So Kasper Nuge Konch and Beckford are a pile of shit too are they. And pearson has never fvcked up in the transfer market has he.
Langston Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 It's a little wierd Pearson didn't play him and claimed he wasnt fit and/or ill and then he goes back, plays well (from what i've heard) and bags a good goal. Reserve football is a different kettle of fish to 'business-end' (in fact, any period) Championship football though, isn't it?
goose2010 Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 does anyone actually know if we were paying his wages in full? I would of thought due to his injuries and fitness level in the past it would of been on a pay per play system, or Man City would of been paying at least 80% to try and get him some game time? and when he was injured we wouldn't of been paying his wage anyway club have insurances for this kind of thing.
Out Foxed Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Daylight robbery paid his wages so Man City didn't have to whilst he had half a year off fitness training on £25000 a week. Hope he gets a Neil Danns tackle soon! i see people saying this. is there actually something in black and white that people have seen that says we had this in place? goose, great minds etc...
Corky Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Another brilliant signing by Sven. The contrast in signings by Sven/Pearson is astounding and I seriously can't see why people would rather have Sven. Sven wasn't a total disaster in the transfer market, likewise Pearson hasn't got everything right.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Sven wasn't a total disaster in the transfer market, likewise Pearson hasn't got everything right. Sven made some great transfers... Kasper, Nuge, Konch.. Our three best players this season. But signing good players and getting them to gel as a team are two different things.
inckley fox Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Konhesky, Nugent, Peltier, Beckford, Kasper, St Ledger, Danns. Svens signings haven't all been good but the spine of our team is made up of his signings. I love Nigel, and perhaps he is better fitted to the job than Sven, but how quickly you have forgotten what Sven did (or tried to do) for this club. So Kasper Nuge Konch and Beckford are a pile of shit too are they. And pearson has never fvcked up in the transfer market has he. In his first year in charge Pearson cut our wage bill by a third and over the course of his reign he came close to breaking even on transfers (if we include the supposed fees for departures before he arrived, and the supposed fee for Mattock). On the other hand Sven increased our wage bill by a third in his first six months (and more thereafter) and spent more money on transfers than every manager since Taylor combined. Pearson took us from League One to 5th in the Championship, Sven never once got us into the play-offs. It's an unfair comparison, but one which - however you look at it - massively favours NP. As for that list of players... Kasper, Konchesky, Peltier and St. Ledger make up four of the five men we might hold most responsible for our ropy defensive record (conceding thirteen in five games and having a worse goals-against record than any of the top six, unless I'm mistaken). Some of you may wish to blame the midfield, of course, of which Danns is the deepest lying player. Yes I know I'm repeatiing myself - and I'm sure that several of the aforementioned will go on to be key players for City - but up to now tthey have underperformed. It amazes me that people continue espousing the virtues of all the individual components of a team which has so far failed to deliver. And, with reference to the likes of Beckford and Danns, when it has worked for them, it has been under the stewardship of Pearson - who, even in his second spell, has a better points-per-game average than Sven, without spending anything like the cash - and not his predecessor. In terms of value for money, Sven really was one of the poorest managers in the history of this football club. That's not to say he achieved nothing, nor does it mean he wouldn't have gone on to put it right; nor even that it was judicious to get rid of him when we did, it's a fairly straightforward observation that his transfer policy came perilously close to blowing our best chance in a decade of competing at the top level. As for Johnson, to me he represents everything that Sven got wrong: A wild, costly stab in the dark when a careful analysis of the team's shortcomings and a shrewd cut-price dip into the lower leagues might have adequately done the job.
Jace Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 The more signings you make the more likely you are to make a bad 1 Sven made plenty of good signings so no complaints from me. i see people saying this. is there actually something in black and white that people have seen that says we had this in place? goose, great minds etc... Yes there is surprisingly.
Out Foxed Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 The more signings you make the more likely you are to make a bad 1 Sven made plenty of good signings so no complaints from me. Yes there is suprisingly. post it then.
NeilyBoy Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 In his first year in charge Pearson cut our wage bill by a third and over the course of his reign he came close to breaking even on transfers (if we include the supposed fees for departures before he arrived, and the supposed fee for Mattock). On the other hand Sven increased our wage bill by a third in his first six months (and more thereafter) and spent more money on transfers than every manager since Taylor combined. Pearson took us from League One to 5th in the Championship, Sven never once got us into the play-offs. It's an unfair comparison, but one which - however you look at it - massively favours NP. As for that list of players... Kasper, Konchesky, Peltier and St. Ledger make up four of the five men we might hold most responsible for our ropy defensive record (conceding thirteen in five games and having a worse goals-against record than any of the top six, unless I'm mistaken). Some of you may wish to blame the midfield, of course, of which Danns is the deepest lying player. Yes I know I'm repeatiing myself - and I'm sure that several of the aforementioned will go on to be key players for City - but up to now tthey have underperformed. It amazes me that people continue espousing the virtues of all the individual components of a team which has so far failed to deliver. And, with reference to the likes of Beckford and Danns, when it has worked for them, it has been under the stewardship of Pearson - who, even in his second spell, has a better points-per-game average than Sven, without spending anything like the cash - and not his predecessor. In terms of value for money, Sven really was one of the poorest managers in the history of this football club. That's not to say he achieved nothing, nor does it mean he wouldn't have gone on to put it right; nor even that it was judicious to get rid of him when we did, it's a fairly straightforward observation that his transfer policy came perilously close to blowing our best chance in a decade of competing at the top level. As for Johnson, to me he represents everything that Sven got wrong: A wild, costly stab in the dark when a careful analysis of the team's shortcomings and a shrewd cut-price dip into the lower leagues might have adequately done the job. Ooh you nearly tricked me into thinking you were talking sense; good job I spotted you mentioning our best defensive players (bar Peltier who isn't a stand out player, but isn't awful like you seem to think) and saying they're our worst.
wellyfox Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 does anyone actually know if we were paying his wages in full? I would of thought due to his injuries and fitness level in the past it would of been on a pay per play system, or Man City would of been paying at least 80% to try and get him some game time? and when he was injured we wouldn't of been paying his wage anyway club have insurances for this kind of thing. You may be so right and hope you are. But if we paid him 50p it was still a waste of fvcking money.
Captain... Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 The more signings you make the more likely you are to make a bad 1 Sven made plenty of good signings so no complaints from me. Even though Sven made some signings that have turned out to be good, he generally couldn't get them to play to their potential, Konchesky, Danns Beckford, SSL have all improved massively under NP as have Wellens and Dyer obviously not Sven's signings. You could argue that NP has made Sven's signings into good signings by playing them in their correct position in a functional (if limited) formation and has got them playing with spirit and confidence, of all of Sven's signings only Nugent and Kapser really could be called a success by the time Sven was sacked, maybe Peltier too.
inckley fox Posted 27 March 2012 Posted 27 March 2012 Ooh you nearly tricked me into thinking you were talking sense; good job I spotted you mentioning our best defensive players (bar Peltier who isn't a stand out player, but isn't awful like you seem to think) and saying they're our worst. This isn't a matter of opinion; it's fact. Schmeichel, Peltier, Konchesky, Ledger make up 4/5ths of our defensive unit. Our defensive record is worst than anybody's in the top six. Our deepest lying midfielder, Danns, is also an Eriksson signing. If you want to add to that, then they've yielded four (or five?) goals between them all year, which is pretty low for a defence over the course of a season. I too have seen some decent defensive performances from these players - tonight included - but over the course of a season that set of players haven't got the sort of record which wins promotions. As such it'd be a sorry set of circumstances if these were indeed our four best players. Okay, you might think we are in a sorry state of affairs! Even so, what I want to say is that it's hard to use them as four examples to suggest that Sven's signings were good ones. I've been reasonably impressed by Konchesky and St. Ledger at times too. We were greatly impressed by Paris in 88-89, Walsh and Mauchlen from 89-91, Willis in 94-95, Rowett and Elliot from 00-02, Thatcher in 04-05, Bamba,Mee and Vitor last season... but they didn't function as part of a unit. That may change (as I think I said), but as it stands they remain quite clearly part of the problem. I can't see why you're so keen to brush that under the carpet.
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