Reply to LargeAl

[BoneDog]

Posting this in here because I thought it might get deleted from the thread in General Sport.

I don't know, it was merely a suggestion, it could be there for some other reason - however why must you try and draw conspiracy theories from every single thing?

Care to provide us with some proof of these signs? - preferably not from nut-jobs from the dark, nether-region of YouTube

Ok then, care to explain what these Zionists are after - what do they want to achieve? 'Cause I really can't be ****ed to filter through tin-foil hatted nonsense..

I don't draw conspiracy in every single thing. Someone mentioned the zion olympic logo so I said something about it. And mine was just a suggestion too! I don't know what it's all about or if the logo means anything, I just said it's suspicious

There you go again with the tin foil cliche that has no meaning. If you are saying that anyone who mentions zionism is a conspiracist I think it just proves my point that it is you who belongs to the lunatic fringe. Zionism is a well known powerful political movement that has some extremist elements. That's historical and present day fact.

And you mention "nut-jobs from the dark nether-region of Youtube", can you tell me which video I have posted in the last 6 months or year fits into that category please? If you can't then there's no need to mention tin hats when you talk to me. I don't talk about, or believe in, lizard men. It's not big and it's not clever!

You say you 'don't want to filter through tin-foil hatted nonsense'. If that means that you have time for serious real talk then try these the videos.

A famous Jewish guy interviewed in Washington about that subject you might think belongs to the tin foil community.

Trailer for the book, including praise from some people of high calibre.

Not tin hat stuff....theriouth bithnuth whether we agree with the conclusions and thoughts or not.

Ex CIA counter intelligence man and others in high profile jobs looking for answers regarding trillions of US tax dollars going 10,000 miles across the world to other people in a country that is smaller than the Midlands. Israel gets more aid from the US than the whole of Africa does. If you know anything about the difference in size, population and poverty etc. then this is a ridiculous situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrRQnvZ8u4

Alan Hart (former Panorama presenter and former ITN Middle East Chief Correspondent) interviewing Norman Finkelstein (he is Jewish and most of his parents families were wiped out in the Holocaust) on the matter.

Chomsky wrote this in a warning to his friend Finkelstein, "You are going to expose the American intellectual community as a gang of frauds, and they are not going to like it. And they are going to destroy you."

And before anyone says I might be an anti-semite - I'm not calling for the destruction of Israel or anything like that. I know Israel is here to stay and I'm not against Jews, just some of the policies and actions.

And regarding the 'signs and symbols' you could start with this. Fascinating for sure. I don't agree with some of these guys conclusions but they have sure done their architecture research.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD46lEsd1JE

[Finnegan]

[BoneDog]

at least I got a reply.

In other news I've got a big job on, so might not be able to reply to anything for 4-5 days (if there is anything to reply to).

[Steven]

Zionists were shooting at my uncle in 1947. Zionists are no friends to Britain after their terrorism against British troops.

[MC Prussian]

Adam and Eve?

Zionist snake.

[Zingari]

Zingarists are taking over the world

We've already cornered the market in pegs and scrap metal

[I am Rod Hull]

Zionists were shooting at my uncle in 1947. Zionists are no friends to Britain after their terrorism against British troops.

I wonder how many people know about this, very few I would imagine.

[Webbo]

It's no coincidence that it's my avatar.

[Steven]

I wonder how many people know about this, very few I would imagine.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=stern%20gang&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAvraham_Stern

[21st Century Fox]

You couldn't count on one hand the number of colonial terror groups that have fought the British army. Zionists are only one of many really.

[Guest Bilo]

You couldn't count on one hand the number of colonial terror groups that have fought the British army. Zionists are only one of many really.

A fair point, but how many still commemorate as an heroic act an act of terrorism against the British army?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1524552/Israel-celebrates-Irgun-hotel-bombers.html

Right-wing Zionism is the key cause of the Middle East conflict. Most people would agree that Israel has a right to exist, but the far-right elements such as those who consider the King David hotel bombing to be a source of pride have no interest in any kind of two-state solution that any idiot can see is vital to the peace process.

[21st Century Fox]

A fair point, but how many still commemorate as an heroic act an act of terrorism against the British army?

http://www.telegraph...el-bombers.html

Right-wing Zionism is the key cause of the Middle East conflict. Most people would agree that Israel has a right to exist, but the far-right elements such as those who consider the King David hotel bombing to be a source of pride have no interest in any kind of two-state solution that any idiot can see is vital to the peace process.

Any group the celebrates the deaths of others so specifically are abhorrent.

The British Empire didn't exactly help itself or the rest of The World with the handling of the Mandate of Palestine and the Balfour Declaration.

[Finnegan]

I would definitely celebrate the death of Nick Griffin. Maybe George Osborne too.

Is that specific enough?

[21st Century Fox]

By specific I meant a specific event in that context over celebrating something like an independence day that could be construed to have been gained through terrorism or guerilla warfare against the British Empire.

[Finnegan]

So is all of this because El Empty is afraid of a Jewpacabra?

[21st Century Fox]

So is all of this because El Empty is afraid of a Jewpacabra?

Do I smell Jew puns?

[sphericalfox]

Do I smell Jew puns?

That made me laugh out loud. I told my wife that I've found some footage of a cow trying to hump a man in a field, so I don't have to explain.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zionism essentially the belief that in order for Chirst to make his second coming on the Earth there must be a nation of Israel in the "promised land" that has essentially been Palestine for 2000 years.

I've always found the whole giving Israel back to the Jews thing that happened after WW2 bewildering. If we replaced every ethnic group back into their homelands of 2000 years ago the world would be a much different place. The USA wouldn't exist for starters!

[The Doctor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zionism essentially the belief that in order for Chirst to make his second coming on the Earth there must be a nation of Israel in the "promised land" that has essentially been Palestine for 2000 years.

I've always found the whole giving Israel back to the Jews thing that happened after WW2 bewildering. If we replaced every ethnic group back into their homelands of 2000 years ago the world would be a much different place. The USA wouldn't exist for starters!

Well then what are we waiting for?

As for the Jewpacabra, I'd be more scared of Jewbacca:

That just isn't natural...

[Webbo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zionism essentially the belief that in order for Chirst to make his second coming on the Earth there must be a nation of Israel in the "promised land" that has essentially been Palestine for 2000 years.

I've always found the whole giving Israel back to the Jews thing that happened after WW2 bewildering. If we replaced every ethnic group back into their homelands of 2000 years ago the world would be a much different place. The USA wouldn't exist for starters!

Zionism is a jewish nationalism that believes jews should live in Israel.

[BoneDog]

Well I'm glad to see their are no objections to my point. People know that Zionism is not a conspiracy subject which is all I was saying.

Plus 10 for that played out picture?! MENTALISTS ALL OF THEM!

Zionists were shooting at my uncle in 1947. Zionists are no friends to Britain after their terrorism against British troops.

Alot of people probably also don't know about them attacking the unarmed USS Liberty, "Americas most advanced intelligence ship of the time", and killing 34 crew members and injuring over 100 others. MSM still refer to it as an accident but evidence proves otherwise. The attack went on for hours.

Interview with Lt. James Ennes who was on the ship.

Unbelievable, that most of the US people, media and government weren't absolutely outraged by this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N8o7slLVJo

One of the survivors of the USS Liberty attack was on the flotilla that got attacked too. http://rt.com/usa/ne...-gaza-flotilla/

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Zionism essentially the belief that in order for Chirst to make his second coming on the Earth there must be a nation of Israel in the "promised land" that has essentially been Palestine for 2000 years.

I've always found the whole giving Israel back to the Jews thing that happened after WW2 bewildering. If we replaced every ethnic group back into their homelands of 2000 years ago the world would be a much different place. The USA wouldn't exist for starters!

WW1 and WW2 were orchestrated with the intention of handing the land to them. All the documents are there that prove this plan from the late 1800's. The British took control of Palestine at the end of WW1 after defeating the Ottomans and ran the place from 1920. Then after WW2 the British handed over the land to the Zionists in 1948.

We in the western world like to believe that we are secular, but our leaders are and always have been (for 1000 years at least - crusades etc.) obsessed with The Holy Land. World events are going to play out just as are told in the Armageddon stories of Christianity and Islam. World powers from 1000 years ago, up until this day, are making sure of it.

Good point about the USA. I love it when people call the blacks and hispanics over there immigrants! They're all bloody immigrants apart from the Native Indians!

[Finnegan]

Wait, what, both world wars were entirely about Israel? Not Nazis, not Hitler, not fascism, just the holy land?

You've really cracked this time.

[BoneDog]

Wait, what, both world wars were entirely about Israel? Not Nazis, not Hitler, not fascism, just the holy land?

Totally about creating the state of Israel yes. You don't know anything about it apart from what you've learned in textbooks and from well known lying MSM i.e not alot, so I don't blame you for thinking whatever you think about me. No worries.

The wars could have been totally avoided and were stirred up by certain influences, but you'll never know about that. Probably because you are not interested, and that's fair enough. It's your life and you can take an interest in whatever you like. Now toddle on and go and read about something else.

[Finnegan]

So the holocaust was actually about...?

[Guest Bilo]

You're not serious are you?

WWI was nothing to do with the entrenched alliances of the old European empires or nationalism of nations such as Serbia that had been occupied?

I suppose Gavrilo Princip was an ultra Zionist and the Black Hand were an Israeli front?

Presumably the Treaty of Versailles was ghost written in Tel Aviv?

Mein Kampf plagiarised from a work by Theodor Herzl?

German hyperinflation orchestrated by the Rothschilds?

The election count for the 1933 election conducted only in synagogues?

Hitler's foreign policy written by Zionists?

Run your theory that World War One and Two were both orchestrated entirely by Zionists to build the Israeli state by a proper historian and they'll laugh their bollocks off. The Jewish lobby almost certainly helped to determine British and American foreign policy towards Germany as the Nazis' antisemitism became increasingly apparent, but there was a myriad of different causes leading to the war starting.