davieG Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 A Tory MP has described David Cameron and George Osborne as "two arrogant posh boys" with "no passion to want to understand the lives of others". Nadine Dorries told the BBC's Daily Politics their "real crime" was to show "no remorse" about their lack of insight beyond Westminster. Last year, Mr Cameron apologised to Ms Dorries for the way he responded to her at PM's questions. The Commons descended into laughter after he described her as "frustrated". Earlier this year, Mid-Bedfordshire MP Ms Dorries told the Financial Times that government policy was "being run by two public school boys who don't know what it's like to go to the supermarket and have to put things back on the shelves because they can't afford it for their children's lunch boxes" "What's worse, they don't care either," she added. Mr Cameron later described her comments as "nonsense". 'No contrition' Speaking to BBC2's Daily Politics on Monday, Ms Dorries was asked whether she still believed the prime minister and chancellor were "two posh boys who don't know the price of milk". She replied: "There is a very tight, narrow clique of a certain group of people and what they do is they act as a barrier and prevent Cameron and Osborne and others from really understanding and knowing what is happening in the rest of the country. "Unfortunately, I think that not only are Cameron and Osborne two posh boys who don't know the price of milk, but they are two arrogant posh boys who show no remorse, no contrition, and no passion to want to understand the lives of others - and that is their real crime." Last September, Ms Dorries campaigned for an amendment to the Health and Social Care Bill, which would have stopped abortion providers giving NHS-funded counselling to women. She claimed Mr Cameron dropped his support for it after pressure from Nick Clegg, and during PMQ's, urged the PM to show his deputy "who's the boss". The prime minister, struggling to get his reply out amid laughter from Labour MPs, replied: "I know that the honourable Lady is extremely frustrated about the... perhaps I should start all over again... I am going to give up on this one." Downing Street insisted the prime minister had not intended any innuendo in his reply to Ms Dorries, and she later told the BBC's Newsnight he had contacted her personally to apologise.
Daggers Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 My feelings on the matter are probably easy to guess at. [insert them here]
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I love how some people use the word "posh" as an insult.
Daggers Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I love how some people use the word "posh" as an insult. Is there any other use for it? I can only think of it being used to describe elitist people or things, apart from spice (when it infers the bint is an ugly and common slapper).
Rincewind Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 Snobbery The new residents at the Manor Were in a pickle, with a dilemma Their neighbor MattP’ was rather posh With exclamations like 'Golly gosh' Keeping up appearances in other homes Is rather hard when your name is Daggers
Zingari Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I love how some people use the word "posh" as an insult. they did pretty much end our play off hopes this year
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 In it's old form maybe, nowadays I've heard people called "posh" as they speak and spell correctly, I was called it in Doncaster for wearing a Hugo Boss jacket. I don't see the insult part of it though, if someone called me posh I'd say thanks.
Daggers Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 they speak and spell correctly By far the majority of people I know who would consider themselves, or are considered by others, to be posh would struggle with both of them. I would say it's an affectation with the intention of appearing to be moneyed and of good breeding - certainly not the same as simply being well bred.
Rincewind Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I've never considered myself posh although I try and behave properly when in company. Not keen on dressing up just because a place as a dress code and others re wearing dinner suits to breakfast when others are wearing jeans. People dress for dinner when on holiday for dinner and I'd rather turn up just on time wearing my shorts just to see who looks down their noses at you. (or sniffs the air) Anyway being wellspoken isn't posh just well mannered and adorn with a little education. I see posh as putting on airs and graces thinking you are better than others and calling yourself Bouquet rather than Bucket or adding an hyphen to your name.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I was called it in Doncaster for wearing a Hugo Boss jacket. In fairness though, you get viewed with suspicion in Donny if you can walk without using your hands
Tielemans63 Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 I think she meant 'arrogant, soulless pricks' .
21st Century Fox Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 But they come across as such down to earth individuals.
pSinatra Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 The same Nadine Dorries who hid £50 in her bra rather than properly rough it on a council estate on the tv programme 'Tower Block of Commons'? Was that her showing "passion to want to understand the lives of others"?
StanSP Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 Read this in my local paper. Obviously you can understand the slant that the local paper had on this matter. Made me laugh that's she speaking up against her own party.
Jon the Hat Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 Read this in my local paper. Obviously you can understand the slant that the local paper had on this matter. Made me laugh that's she speaking up against her own party. Why? It is possible to support or even be a member of a party without agreeing with everything its leadership does. See for example the entire Lib Dem party and Nick Clegg.
Zingari Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 Why? It is possible to support or even be a member of a party without agreeing with everything its leadership does. See for example the entire Lib Dem party and Nick Clegg. Calling them out of touch posh boys , is not the same as being critical of single issues though . this was a personal attack on the whole fundamental leadership style. I'm not saying she was justified but it's not the same thing
Daggers Posted 23 April 2012 Posted 23 April 2012 Why? It is possible to support or even be a member of a party without agreeing with everything its leadership does. See for example the entire Lib Dem party and Nick Clegg. ...and calling the LibDems a "party" is nothing more than taking the piss. They couldn't be a party if they lived in a house made from sugar-coated rusks and had trifle as cavity wall insulation.
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