MooseBreath Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 Just got back and I can tell you, old Duncan Smithinho has caused a mighty old stir down in the baccy queue up londis. Old Felecity Philistine is going ape, her husband two. Like a right pair of nutters. That politician bloke reckons he can eat, feed and shower himself what with £53 a week. Could you? I put it to you - could you do it? Keep yersen in drink and fags what with just fifty three quid a week? He's a right joker. Int no way he could do it, nor no-one could. That's why we all putting to it petition, making him, kinda like forcing him to explain how he could do it. You explain how you could do it, if you think you could, and then I will too. Alright?
jonthefox Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 As was said on the radio today. IDS couldn't do lunch for £53 quid.
Thracian Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 Just got back and I can tell you, old Duncan Smithinho has caused a mighty old stir down in the baccy queue up londis. Old Felecity Philistine is going ape, her husband two. Like a right pair of nutters. That politician bloke reckons he can eat, feed and shower himself what with £53 a week. Could you? I put it to you - could you do it? Keep yersen in drink and fags what with just fifty three quid a week? He's a right joker. Int no way he could do it, nor no-one could. That's why we all putting to it petition, making him, kinda like forcing him to explain how he could do it. You explain how you could do it, if you think you could, and then I will too. Alright? Live on £53 a week? No problem.
Rincewind Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 Live on £53 a week? No problem. Live on £53 a week? No problem. lol
Charl91 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 What do you mean by live on £53? If that doesn't include rent/bills, then yes, easily. On average, I spend less than that a week.
acooling08 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 It's worth mentioning that £53 JSA is the lowest possible rate. It think it can be £71 if you're 25 or over. Now that still isn't much, but how many people are just living off JSA? There's housing benefit, child benefit, disability allowance, endless types of tax breaks etc that many JSA recipients also get. And not to forget they don't pay for prescriptions, dentistry, glasses/lenses etc that working people have to pay. After all that though, the standard of living isn't going to be great. But that's how it should be. Benefits should be a safety net so you can get by while looking for work, not an alternate way of life. Why should people who work really hard for long hours and minimum wage be on an equal standard of living with those who do nothing? And even worse, have to subsidise those who don't want to work?? The best idea surely is to have the standard weekly rate, and then on top of that, get vouchers that pay for food, utility bills etc so that you can always afford the essentials, and not be able to spend your money on fags and booze.
Charl91 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I'm probably going to have to be on JSA for the next 3 months (unless someone employs me for a few months, which isn't likely). My contract at work just finished, and I have 3 months on my house contract left before I move back to Leicestershire. I'm honestly looking foward to it. Gives me free time to go to the gym/finish watching Breaking Bad. I don't smoke, don't really go on nights out, and very rarely drink, so I can't imagine it will be difficult to get by.
pSinatra Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I could probably exist on £53 a week......but I couldn't 'live' on £53. No phone, no telly, no drink, no smoking, no clothes, no car, no shoes, no unexpected expenses, no going out, no nothing. water & gruel every day forever!! IDS is a horrible cvnt!!
Bayfox Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I really hope i'm never in the position to have to try. However i have worked since i was 17 paid my tax. Business rates and taxes etc. What i object to is idle ****ers who are making a living of claiming free shit having done bugger all for the country.
The Doctor Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 **** no can someone live on that - particularly when the **** pops his head round the door and takes 14% of it back because you've got a spare room.
Charl91 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I could probably exist on £53 a week......but I couldn't 'live' on £53. No phone, no telly, no drink, no smoking, no clothes, no car, no shoes, no unexpected expenses, no going out, no nothing. water & gruel every day forever!! IDS is a horrible cvnt!! I'm hoping that's sarcasm. No phone and no TV? My phone contract costs me £6 a month.
The Doctor Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I really hope i'm never in the position to have to try. However i have worked since i was 17 paid my tax. Business rates and taxes etc. What i object to is idle ****ers who are making a living of claiming free shit having done bugger all for the country. - Yeah, let's have a go at those who scrounge benefits. Never mind that they take absolute squat compared to those responsible for tax evasion/avoidance (like a certain shiny-headed cunt in number 10 at the moment). Frankly, when benefits are being cut and there's **** all jobs out there, people playing the government really doesn't bother me, seems like a fair bit of revenge against an organisation too greedy to help those it's supposed to represent.
I am Rod Hull Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 soooooo many working class Tories about nowdays Fvcking brainwashed idiots...
Charl91 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I don't understand why people either seem to hate benefit scroungers or companys that evade tax. Why can't people hate both?
Zingari Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 IDS is a proven liar , why should we believe anything he says or claims?
MooseBreath Posted 2 April 2013 Author Posted 2 April 2013 Rent - paid for Electric, gas, water - £20pw Food - £15pw Total - £35pw God this is tough.
The Doctor Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I don't understand why people either seem to hate benefit scroungers or companys that evade tax. Why can't people hate both? They can, but I might suggest that given 10,000 times as much is lost due to tax evasion/avoidance than benefit fraud that it might be worth, I don't know, prioritising . A tiny amount is being taken by "scroungers", meanwhile 6 times more than the amount being cut from the NHS is lost because of dodged tax - seems clear to me who the big problem is.
Webbo Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 The £53 the man claims to have at the end of each week is after rent and utility bills. Sorry I've just checked that's wrong. Mr Bennett, from Hunwick, County Durham, said he did not claim child benefits for his children, aged ten and 14, because his ex-wife was their main carer. Mr Bennett said he was paid housing benefit and working tax credit, and earned around £200 a month from his stall, giving him a total monthly income of £633. He pays £400 in rent per month and around £176 in utility bills, but also pays for a landline, mobile phone and Sky with broadband. He claims his bills leave him with £23 a month, Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2PL85ZCSd
MooseBreath Posted 2 April 2013 Author Posted 2 April 2013 The £53 the man claims to have at the end of each week is after rent and utility bills. Seriously, so it's just for food?? Could have lobster every week.
Webbo Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 They can, but I might suggest that given 10,000 times as much is lost due to tax evasion/avoidance than benefit fraud that it might be worth, I don't know, prioritising . A tiny amount is being taken by "scroungers", meanwhile 6 times more than the amount being cut from the NHS is lost because of dodged tax - seems clear to me who the big problem is. You do know that Tax avoidance is legal? A lot of tax can be avoided through govt schemes intended to encourage investment.
Bayfox Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 - Yeah, let's have a go at those who scrounge benefits. Never mind that they take absolute squat compared to those responsible for tax evasion/avoidance (like a certain shiny-headed cunt in number 10 at the moment). Frankly, when benefits are being cut and there's **** all jobs out there, people playing the government really doesn't bother me, seems like a fair bit of revenge against an organisation too greedy to help those it's supposed to represent. I fall into neither bracket thanks. But i really hope we never end up with a country full of people with your attitude. **** knows where you think that money comes from. But if we didnt have people who had made a success of themselves there would be no money in the pot in the 1st place. We look after the shit in this country but not our war veterans. We force business abroad because we have shit tax laws and people wont work for less than £10 an hour.
The Doctor Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 You do know that Tax avoidance is legal? A lot of tax can be avoided through govt schemes intended to encourage investment. I'm aware it's legal, however when we're losing far more through that than benefits I don't see why people get so worked up about the benefits - ultimately what's more important, that a family actually has enough money to be able to live properly, or companies get to see a couple of extra noughts on the profits?
Charl91 Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 Ok, so £53 per week is £212 per month. These are my actual monthly bills (I live with my GF which makes some things a little cheaper) - £18 gym £10 tv/internet £40 gas/electricity/water £3 netflix £6 phone £5 Xbox live £100 food per month (£25 x 4 weeks) = £182 a month. That gives me £30 a month left over. .
Webbo Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I'm aware it's legal, however when we're losing far more through that than benefits I don't see why people get so worked up about the benefits - ultimately what's more important, that a family actually has enough money to be able to live properly, or companies get to see a couple of extra noughts on the profits? Investment = building offices/factories, employing people, increased tax revenue.
The Doctor Posted 2 April 2013 Posted 2 April 2013 I fall into neither bracket thanks. But i really hope we never end up with a country full of people with your attitude. **** knows where you think that money comes from. But if we didnt have people who had made a success of themselves there would be no money in the pot in the 1st place. We look after the shit in this country but not our war veterans. We force business abroad because we have shit tax laws and people wont work for less than £10 an hour. Ah, the attitude of "when a regime pushes you to the brink, push right back" - yep, horrible attitude to have, back to apathy we should go. Who knows, maybe we can go bomb the shit out of some other country to distract us from being buggered by our so-called representatives. I'm well aware where it comes from - primarily taxation, and I might point out if we actually ensured that that tax was paid, and then stopped spending it on flexing our muscles at other countries, then perhaps we could afford to give people enough to ensure they can live while out of work (which, given there's more people of working age than there are jobs at the moment, seems rather important to me). Yeah, it's lamentable that people get left out in the cold like that - but why draw a line between people? Why say "oh, they deserve help, but not that chappy over there. **** him".
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