Guest Posted 19 April 2013 Posted 19 April 2013 It should be banned. Those innocent little hoi polloi, so easily duped, need us to protect them from their own stupidity. As superior individuals we owe it to the thick cvnts to make any decisions with potential negative consequences on their behalf. you don't really understand addictions do you?
MooseBreath Posted 19 April 2013 Posted 19 April 2013 you don't really understand addictions do you? Bore off you ponce. If sad acts like you had your way no-one would be allowed to do anything.
Guest Posted 19 April 2013 Posted 19 April 2013 Bore off you ponce. If sad acts like you had your way no-one would be allowed to do anything. If interesting acts like you had your way white heterosexual men would be able to do anything they wanted but not non-whites, women, gays .....
Captain... Posted 19 April 2013 Posted 19 April 2013 Bore off you ponce. If sad acts like you had your way no-one would be allowed to do anything. And I thought your new profile pic was an indication of peace to all and a new more enlightened moosey, oh well. Gambling is dangerous and can wreck lives, but illegal gambling is even worse with high stakes being paid for with their lives. Gambling will always exist so it is probably better that it is legalised regulated and controlled rather than stigmatising those that suffer addiction. So in that case I'm in agreement, but the amount of gambling ads you get at the moment is ridiculously and should be stopped if only to stop me having to see Ray Winstone's massive floating head, or hear that annoying cvnt shout Kammie!!! 3 times every fvcking ad break. It is the same argument with drugs and alcohol, and you have to legislate for the masses not the exceptions, of course all help should be made available for addicts and victims but you can't ban things just because a minority are unable to handle themselves, otherwise you would have to ban alcohol, cigarettes, driving, video games, porn .
SystonFox Posted 20 April 2013 Posted 20 April 2013 No doubt gambling is a mugs game and its always down to the individual but the sheep mentality of some of these guys twitter followers is unreal. He clearly "tips" losers so he can take a slice of the punters losses. At 120k followers who knows what kind of fortune that is. They've tried to keep punters onside lately by insisting they aren't "tipsters" merely betting advisors. Scumbags.
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 Why the secrecy thought you'd be all over spreading the word as much as possible. I assume the boxing one is one of those, very good looking site. Seeing as you get the profits from the losses are you never tempted to give bad betting advice/tips? www.boxingbets.info http://www.betcricket.info/ (which I've done nothing on for months. http://www.aussiebets.com.au/ and http://www.freebets365.com.au/. Also got http://nflbets.co.uk/ ready to go for this season. Nah I try to tip winners, winners generally equals more traffic, that equals more sign ups, once they are signed up to your account from your link 95% of the bets they place will be their own so the tips I give make no difference in the long run. Isn't this basically what @footyaccums and @footballacca are on twitter? Do you reckon they "tip losers" as has been happening more regularly lately? Seems to have sparked some debate of late as their winning % record has massively slipped yet around 100k + followers still back them as they once landed a big bet many moons ago. I don't follow the bets personally just watch with interest. Pretty much, I still kick myself to this day that I disdnt think about setting up those sort of pages on facebook and twitter, they must have 2,000 betting with them. Must be making a fortune. Gambling is a mug's game. Only the bookies can win. Wrong, since Betfair was introduced many punters can make a profit from betting.
Guest Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 Wrong, since Betfair was introduced many punters can make a profit from betting. so would you say that 1% of punters will make a profit over their lifetime or should that be nearer 0.0001%
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 so would you say that 1% of punters will make a profit over their lifetime or should that be nearer 0.0001% Their was a study of Betfair accounts a couple of years back, I think it was about 4%-7% made a profit. Do you think it's that impossible when you take a average 12% bookie over round out and replace it with a 2%-5% commission charge?
SystonFox Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 www.boxingbets.info http://www.betcricket.info/ (which I've done nothing on for months. http://www.aussiebets.com.au/ and http://www.freebets365.com.au/. Also got http://nflbets.co.uk/ ready to go for this season. Nah I try to tip winners, winners generally equals more traffic, that equals more sign ups, once they are signed up to your account from your link 95% of the bets they place will be their own so the tips I give make no difference in the long run. Pretty much, I still kick myself to this day that I disdnt think about setting up those sort of pages on facebook and twitter, they must have 2,000 betting with them. Must be making a fortune. Wrong, since Betfair was introduced many punters can make a profit from betting. I'm sure they are making a fortune. But do you agree it is morally wrong what they are doing? I think they started off with the right idea and then the bookies linked them up and offered big margins to tip bets that weren't likely to win and even if they did win once every so often it would t be such a bad thing. For example they tip a 50/1 goals galore EVERY week and the last one they won was in November (I think?) this cost betfred around £1m due to @footyaccums *supposedly*. If every bet was £10 that to me would suggest 2,000 people placed bets on that goals galore on that day. This equates to £20,000 worth of bets. Now suppose they haven't won a 7 fold since and roughly the same number place bets that's £20,000 every weekend since November AND they often post 3 bets every Saturday and a couple on Sunday too. It doesn't take betfred long to recoup his losses from that one particular Saturday in November. They know they have been found out lately since changing their bio to "just lads eating bacon and doing bets" rather than claiming to be tipsters. It reet winds me up they have the nerve and Gaul to bullshit their followers. Atleast have the balls to say "yeah here's our tip, if you win then great but if you lose we take 30%" of your bet."
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 Absolutely, if anyone is running a 'tipping site' that is delibrately misleading people then it's completely immoral. The ones who do this on Twitter have it made. No website costs, time doing articles, design. Just shove some shit up and watch the followers flock, incredible.
SystonFox Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 Again that's what winds me up. People defend them cos theyve fluked a 7 fold twice in a season they only need to open there eyes and see what's going on right infront of them
ADK Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 There's alot of easy money to be made on the internet, of course it only becomes obvious once it's already been done.
whoareyaaa Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 You've got some nice sites there Matt, how you driving traffic to them through search engines or paid? Would be worth setting up a twitter/facebook account, tons of traffic out there. Just brought in $500 profit myself today through a piece of software i've got on the market.
Guest MattP Posted 23 April 2013 Posted 23 April 2013 You've got some nice sites there Matt, how you driving traffic to them through search engines or paid? Would be worth setting up a twitter/facebook account, tons of traffic out there. Just brought in $500 profit myself today through a piece of software i've got on the market. Cheers. I get 90% of my traffic from google and other search engines. I've got Fb and Twitter pages for them but I barely use them. The effort and time I put into these sites is pathetic tbh considering the time I spent setting them up.
purpleronnie Posted 24 April 2013 Posted 24 April 2013 As I'm a philistine when it comes to these things. Matt do you make your money from people signing up to various betting sites linked from your site?
Guest MattP Posted 24 April 2013 Posted 24 April 2013 As I'm a philistine when it comes to these things. Matt do you make your money from people signing up to various betting sites linked from your site? Yeah if they sign up through your site everything they bet through that company under the account is linked to you. Whatever they lose, you get between 25%-40% of losses depandant on the company and amounts they bet.
Captain... Posted 24 April 2013 Posted 24 April 2013 Yeah if they sign up through your site everything they bet through that company under the account is linked to you. Whatever they lose, you get between 25%-40% of losses depandant on the company and amounts they bet. Do people know that? Do you advertise it as support this site and sign up through this link, or do you just advertise the betting site and hope they click through your site rather than just type in www.betfair.com in a new window? Is it possible to set-up instant bet buttons next to your tips, could you recognise if they were signed in with any of your trading partners and so you just have an insta bet button next to your tips if they want to bet on your tip they do it at the touch of a button, and then you get commission on that too, even if they didn't set-up their account by clicking your link, or would that require too much effort/negotiation with the sites?
indierich06 Posted 10 May 2013 Posted 10 May 2013 Sent out my first invoice today, not for much, but it felt damn good.
Guest Posted 11 May 2013 Posted 11 May 2013 Sent out my first invoice today, not for much, but it felt damn good. Think of the Tax, man.
indierich06 Posted 13 May 2013 Posted 13 May 2013 Think of the Tax, man. I know, it's only freelance writing, so I'm not making a massive stack, but as a rule of thumb I'm putting about 20% aside from each invoice, just to be on the safe side.
danny. Posted 13 May 2013 Posted 13 May 2013 remember to put aside NI too - you need to save about 30% really
indierich06 Posted 14 May 2013 Posted 14 May 2013 remember to put aside NI too - you need to save about 30% really I think with the new NI relief for small businesses in the latest budget, I won't earn enough to have to pay it? But I'll probably put away 30% to be on the safe side, don't want any nasty tax surprises at the end of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21857641 The writing is something I do part time to supplement my main income at the minute, so it's only about £100-£200 a month at the moment as I'm working through agencies - when I've built up a portfolio, I'll be moving on to finding my own clients and then I'll be charging about £30 p/h and I'll probably worry a bit more about tax when I'm charging more. At the minute, I'm only expecting to earn about £1,500 - £2,000 between now and next April. Like I said, it's mostly for experience and a bit of extra pocket money at the minute.
Captain... Posted 14 May 2013 Posted 14 May 2013 I think with the new NI relief for small businesses in the latest budget, I won't earn enough to have to pay it? But I'll probably put away 30% to be on the safe side, don't want any nasty tax surprises at the end of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21857641 The writing is something I do part time to supplement my main income at the minute, so it's only about £100-£200 a month at the moment as I'm working through agencies - when I've built up a portfolio, I'll be moving on to finding my own clients and then I'll be charging about £30 p/h and I'll probably worry a bit more about tax when I'm charging more. At the minute, I'm only expecting to earn about £1,500 - £2,000 between now and next April. Like I said, it's mostly for experience and a bit of extra pocket money at the minute. What sort of writing is it? As for tax, how does this work as a second income? Will you be paying full whack of tax and getting no tax relief on your second income or has that changed?
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