Emigrating

[purpleronnie]

I'll try and get down over the summer. 7 hour minimum train mind.

Yep its a heck of a journey. The last time I went I drove up to manchester airport, flew to newquay (about 60 quid) and then got the bus (number 547 if I remember correctly) to st ives...pretty sure it would have been as quick just to go on the train.

[Jon the Hat]

Off to Cornwall in 5 weeks time. We stay on a farm down there, near Falmouth, easy drive in 30 mins or so to North or South. Lovely little barn conversion. Not seen the point of buying, as frankly I can spend a week here and there for a few grand a year wihout any worries. Holiday lets must be a pain in the arse to run.

[Guest]

Off to Cornwall in 5 weeks time. We stay on a farm down there, near Falmouth, easy drive in 30 mins or so to North or South. Lovely little barn conversion. Not seen the point of buying, as frankly I can spend a week here and there for a few grand a year wihout any worries. Holiday lets must be a pain in the arse to run.

Used to love Falmouth - spent a few months in a tent near Swanpool one summer/autumn fantastic.

Buying is for investment purposes or if you know where you'll be (or want to be) long-term.

I never saw the point in renting - thought it was money given away but I can see the point now where lives and jobs are not so fixed geographically.

[Soar Fox]

Just said my goodbyes to one of my best friends who's emigrating tomorrow morning. Stuff like this doesn't normally bother me, but this has got me quite upset more than I imagined.

[VLC86]

Just said my goodbyes to one of my best friends who's emigrating tomorrow morning. Stuff like this doesn't normally bother me, but this has got me quite upset more than I imagined.

Bit gay mate

[Jattdogg]

Just said my goodbyes to one of my best friends who's emigrating tomorrow morning. Stuff like this doesn't normally bother me, but this has got me quite upset more than I imagined.

Wheres your friend off too?

[Soar Fox]

Bit gay mate

I know, I was quite surprised myself. Must be getting soft now I'm getting older.

[Guest MattP]

Nowt wrong with that, I cried when a good mate went to Australia.

You do miss them, realistically it's the end of your proper friendship with them if they go a long way from home; to go from seeing someone every week to knowing it's probably a handful of times at most for the rest of your life is sad.

[VLC86]

I know, I was quite surprised myself. Must be getting soft now I'm getting older.

Only messing mate, I hate saying goodbye in them sort of circumstances.

[Bayfox]

Bit gay mate

Maybe that's why he was so upset.

 

 

That or she was a FWB.

[sphericalfox]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/05/canadas-new-defense-minister-made-his-own-gas-mask-to-work-with-his-sikh-beard/

 

@dr.singh

[Jattdogg]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/05/canadas-new-defense-minister-made-his-own-gas-mask-to-work-with-his-sikh-beard/

@dr.singh

Wont let me read without registering. Bollocks. But ya this guy was named as our defense minister. Real cool guy i hope he does well.

[sphericalfox]

Wont let me read without registering. Bollocks. But ya this guy was named as our defense minister. Real cool guy i hope he does well.

 

Sorry, you can sweep over it and get the gist before the subscription block comes up. Basically a former Sikh soldier who is the new defence minister for Canada.

[Dr The Singh]

Sorry, you can sweep over it and get the gist before the subscription block comes up. Basically a former Sikh soldier who is the new defence minister for Canada.

It's good stuff. Canada have 3 turbaned Sikhs in there Cabinet. Also the Canadians dont pander to India like UK does, hence Canadian Sikhs are much more well protected then us in the UK she it comes to being in India

[Dr The Singh]

Wont let me read without registering. Bollocks. But ya this guy was named as our defense minister. Real cool guy i hope he does well.

Just read a article on the guy, amazing. The guy was a true soldier:

http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/11/04/opinion/you-have-no-idea-how-badass-trudeaus-defence-minister-really

You have no idea how badass Trudeau's Defence Minister really is

By Sandy Garossino in Opinion

November 4th 2015

You might think Harjit Sajjan takes a pretty mean combat gear photo, but Canada's new Minister of National Defence is some kind of next-level Spy vs Spy war hero.

A 2006 letter of appreciation for Sajjan's services from the commander of Canada’s Coalition Task Force in Afghanistan has surfaced, and it reads like a Bourne Trilogy movie script.

Sajjan was considered “the best single Canadian intelligence asset in [war] theater” whose "hard work, personal bravery and dogged determination undoubtedly saved a multitude of Coalition lives," according to the letter, recently obtained by National Observer.

He's further credited with providing the intelligence foundation for a military operation resulting in the "kill or capture" of 1,500 Taliban fighters.

Addressed to then-Vancouver police chief Jamie Graham, the letter from Brigadier General David Fraser thanked the chief for the loan of Detective Constable Sajjan, then a reserve officer with the Canadian Armed Forces.

It includes the following excerpts:

"Not only did [sajjan] display a rare high level of intellect and experience in his analysis, he also demonstrated remarkable personal courage… often working in the face of the enemy to collect data and confirm his suspicions, and placing himself almost daily in situations of grave personal risk."

"[He] demonstrated a profound understanding of the Taliban and tribal networks…"

"He was the best single Canadian intelligence asset in theater, and his hard work, personal bravery and dogged determination undoubtedly saved a multitude of Coalition lives."

"Through his courage and dedication, Major Sajjan has single-handedly changed the face of intelligence gathering and analysis in Afghanistan."

"[H]is analysis was so compelling that it drove a number of large scale theatre-resourced efforts, including OPERATION MEDUSA... that resulted in the defeat of the largest TB cell yet identified in Afghanistan, with over 1500 Taliban killed or captured."

"I rate him as one of the best intelligence officers I have ever worked with."

"I have advised my chain of command that the Canadian Forces must capture his skill-set, and seek his advice on how to change our entire tactical intelligence training and architecture to best meet the needs of future deployed units fighting in extremely complex human battlespace."

Copy of Coalition Task Force Commander David Fraser to then-Vancouver Police Chief Jamie Graham

What set Sajjan’s anti-terrorism intelligence apart was his ability to connect and build trust with local populations, something he’s known to attribute in part to the Canadian military’s openness to turbans. His access granted him special appreciation of the unique dynamics and local conditions on the ground in Afghanistan.

Sajjan’s intelligence-gathering and analytic skills soon attracted the attention of senior U.S. military and strategic advisors. His opinion letter concerning the Taliban, local warlords and the Afghan opium trade was appended in full in a major 2008 report on U.S. anti-narcotic strategies by Barnet Rubin, senior advisor to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. In both 2006 and 2009 Sajjan came under enemy fire, saw open combat and coped with dead and wounded soldiers.

Following Sajjan's second deployment in 2009, U.S. Major-General James Terry, Commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan’s southern provinces, requested that he join the U.S. Command Team for a third deployment 2010, where he served as Special Assistant to General Terry. Pictured below, Sajjan presented General Terry with a Sikh ceremonial kirpan.

Future Minister of National Defence presents a kirpan to US forces commander, Maj-Gen James Terry in 2010

Among the many honours bestowed on Sajjan is the Order of Military Merit, awarded in 2014.

Reached for comment late Wednesday evening, the new minister emphasized that the national defence portfolio is a team effort.

"When you're the government or minister," he said, "you don't work alone. We have a tremendous civil service and military who are exceptionally capable. In National Defence, we work as a team."

Nor did Sajjan want to talk about individual heroics. Instead, he voiced concern for Canadians now serving in the military.

"It's the responsibility of government not to put soldiers into harm's way except as a last resort, when it's absolutely necessary to do so," he said. "When we do send them into harm's way we have to ensure that we've done everything in our power to find other methods to reach our objectives."

Very properly, little was made of Sajjan’s military achievements during the election campaign. His own personal style, like that of all good intelligence officers, is decidedly low-key.

But you can only hide badass for so long.

Make no mistake, Minister Sajjan’s reputation for stellar military intelligence precedes him among Canada's serving men and women, its military leadership, and the strategic planning of our allies, especially in the global fight against terrorism.

The full text of the letter excerpted above reads as follows:

Headquarters

Coalition Task Force AEGIS

Regional Command (South)

Kandahar Airfield, Kandahar, Afghanistan

16, September, 2006

Chief Constable J.H. Graham

LETTER OF APPRECIATION—DETECTIVE CONSTABLE NUMBER 1967-HARJIT SAJJAN

1. I have had the pleasure of having Constable and Major Harjit Sajjan work for me for the past nine months on OPERATION ARCHER/ATHENA, Canada’s contribution to the global war on terror in Afghanistan. I must say that Major Sajjan is one of the most remarkable people I have worked with, and his contribution to the success of the mission and the safety of Canadian soldiers was nothing short of remarkable.

2. Maj Sajjan was specially selected for the demanding and challenging task of acting as the Liaison Officer to the Afghan National Police on behalf of the Combined Task Force (CTF) Aegis HQ because of the civilian skillset he brought to the table as an undercover narcotics officer. His job further changed into being a special intelligence officer working direct to Commander CTF Aegis because of his ability to understand and exploit criminal networks. He consistently provided the most timely and accurate intelligence available, and he personally fused broad sources of information into an extremely coherent picture upon which most of the formations major operations were based. Not only did he display a rare high level of intellect and experience in his analysis, he also demonstrated remarkable personal courage in his collection efforts, often working in the face of the enemy to collect data and confirm his suspicions, and placing himself almost daily in situations of grave personal risk. His products were cogent and demonstrated a profound understanding of the Taliban (TB) and tribal networks which were critical to making formation and unit operations successful. He was the best single Canadian intelligence asset in theater, and his hard work, personal bravery and dogged determination undoubtedly saved a multitude of Coalition lives. Through his courage and dedication, Major Sajjan has singlehandedly changed the face of intelligence gathering and analysis in Afghanistan.

3. He tirelessly and selflessly devoted himself to piecing together the ground truth on tribal and Taliban networks in the Kandahar area, and his analysis was so compelling that it drove a number of large scale theatre-resourced efforts, including OPERATION MEDUSA, a large scale conventional combat operation that resulted in the defeat of the largest TB cell yet identified in Afghanistan, with over 1500 Taliban killed or captured. I rate him as one of the best intelligence officers I have ever worked with—fearless, smart, and personable, and I would not hesitate to have him on my staff at any time in the future. I have advised my chain of command that the Canadian Forces must capture his skillset, and seek his advice on how to change our entire tactical intelligence training and architecture to best meet the needs of future deployed units fighting in extremely complex human battlespace.

4. I cannot thank you enough for allowing Constable Sajjan to deploy with us on OPERATION ARCHER, and he has been an outstanding representative of the Vancouver City Police. I would ask that you pass my personal thanks on to Constable Sajjan, and to those who supported him and his family while he was over here with us. I pray that he stays safe now that he returns to the challenges and dangers of his “everyday job,” and ask that if I can ever be of assistance to either Constable Sajjan, or your Department, that you do not hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,

David Fraser

Brigadier General

Commander, CTF Aegis

[MooseBreath]

I'm off again In about three years.

Dayum can't believe it has been nearly three years since I wrote this already. Really need to get a move on.

[Jattdogg]

Yup singhy makes me proud to be canadian and of my sikh heritage. Both my bros are in military here and said he is highly respectef in the forces and top notch. Lets hope he makes a positive difference from a political perspective.

[Dr The Singh]

Yup singhy makes me proud to be canadian and of my sikh heritage. Both my bros are in military here and said he is highly respectef in the forces and top notch. Lets hope he makes a positive difference from a political perspective.

I bet you must be upset by your canadian brothers wanting him out, citing he's a extremist and part of sikh fundamentalism, which we know is absolute bull.  I'm shocked that there are Indian agents in Canada aswell.  As you can see how the Indian media works, a Sikh who has served the Canadian Army as a Canadian citizen, just because he is the son of a Organisisation asking for Sikh rights against a tyranical nation, is an extremist and supports terrorism.  Indian's must be proud

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/election-results-big-shock-for-moderates-sikh-groups-in-canada/story-SQbHkWin0FYaRLsvqmoNmK.html

[Jattdogg]

There is a huge issue out in BC between religious and moderates etc. Been that way for ages. I remember the whole tables in langar halls debate out there. Serious beef.

Sadly no side uses common sense and as with any religion when you have moderates versus the more religious type its as if mud slinging and generalizations are the norm.

The man has done a good job so far in his career and should be supported accordingly.

As long as people advocate for a independent khalistan there will be a division within the community regardless of which side you "support" so to speak.

[Dr The Singh]

There is a huge issue out in BC between religious and moderates etc. Been that way for ages. I remember the whole tables in langar halls debate out there. Serious beef.

Sadly no side uses common sense and as with any religion when you have moderates versus the more religious type its as if mud slinging and generalizations are the norm.

The man has done a good job so far in his career and should be supported accordingly.

As long as people advocate for a independent khalistan there will be a division within the community regardless of which side you "support" so to speak.

What you have written are internal to Sikhs, what right has the Indian government or media have in labelling people at extremists and fundamentalist.  What is the agenda, why????

 

So here are a few question?  Someone who, is religious, is he a extremist and fundamentalist???  Someone who is believer in the right of the Sikh people for the right for self determination (Khalistan), as extremist and fundamentalist????

[Jattdogg]

I hear you bro. Dont disagree.