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Seen a picture from just after the crash and the plane wasn't in as bad of a state as the photo above, still pretty bad; but obviously persisted in burning for a while. Hope the many in hospital come through with next to no injuries anyway.

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It would appear the aircraft was too high on approach so the thrust was decreased to get them back to the right height but they slowed down too much, had too quick a rate of descent and couldn't arrest the situation before hitting the ground.

If the 2 fatalities are confirmed then it will be the first death during a 777 flight and I think it's only the third hull loss on a 777, it's safety record is remarkable

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It would appear the aircraft was too high on approach so the thrust was decreased to get them back to the right height but they slowed down too much, had too quick a rate of descent and couldn't arrest the situation before hitting the ground.

If the 2 fatalities are confirmed then it will be the first death during a 777 flight and I think it's only the third hull loss on a 777, it's safety record is remarkable

 

Wouldn't be surprised if the fatalities were at the back where the tail snapped off. And it's supposedly safer sitting at the back...

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It would appear the aircraft was too high on approach so the thrust was decreased to get them back to the right height but they slowed down too much, had too quick a rate of descent and couldn't arrest the situation before hitting the ground.

If the 2 fatalities are confirmed then it will be the first death during a 777 flight and I think it's only the third hull loss on a 777, it's safety record is remarkable

 

 

I knew you'd post in this thread.

 

And just a quick one, something similar happened when a BA 777 crash landed at Heathrow in 2008? I know it is apparently the safest aircraft if you calculate the flight hours by accidents.

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I knew you'd post in this thread.

 

And just a quick one, something similar happened when a BA 777 crash landed at Heathrow in 2008? I know it is apparently the safest aircraft if you calculate the flight hours by accidents.

 

 

The BA 777 crash was caused by ice forming in the fuel supply to the Rolls Royce engines, the problem only affected the RR Trent 800 engine due to a design flaw. The 777 yesterday had Pratt & Whitney engines. Very similar situation though, seems it came in too low and clipped the sea wall at the start of the runway, losing an engine and tail. There are 1,113 777s in service at the moment (according to Wikipedia), so 3 hull losses in almost 20 years flying isn't a bad record at all.

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We'll have to wait for the report on this one but it does seem likely that its pilot error. From what I've read,the weather was very much similar to yesterday here which would be perfect flying weather and therefore VFR were operating. Maybe it's similar to the Air France crash in the fact the pilots have relied on computers and forgot basic handling skills. What they should have done was called a missed approach and performed a go around.

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This always happens when i'm about to get on one.

The time to really worry is when it happens while you're on one .

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Sounds dodgy. I'll look into it and find out who's responsible.

 

there was a more tragic train fire in Canada. 50 dead I think.

 

Saw a few pictures of that, looks tragic. It was driverless too from what I heard - like that film with Denzel in.

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Boeing have got some explaining to do again. Two Dreamliners were involved in accidents yesterday, one at Heathrow and one at Manchester. Seem to be a few faults with their new Dreamliner :/

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Boeing have got some explaining to do again. Two Dreamliners were involved in accidents yesterday, one at Heathrow and one at Manchester. Seem to be a few faults with their new Dreamliner :/

Incidents, not accidents.

The fire at Heathrow doesn't appear to be related to the battery problem but it won't be long until we know the answers, should be early this week. The Thomson flight had a tech issue and flew back to MAN, if they thought it was anything serious, they'd have landed immediately at somewhere like Dublin and not spent a while in hold, burning off fuel to land back at MAN. In the emd they landed as normal and never declared an emergency. Had this been a 767 that used to fly the route, nobody would have hear about it, happens all the time.

Admittedly the 787 is having a few problems and I'd be wary about stepping on one at the moment

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I meant incidents, just couldn't think of the word... Yeah, wasn't it delayed in the first place due to teething problems? I think I'd be wary too at the moment, but Boeing will eventually get it right as always. 

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Yeah it was delayed for however many years for whatever reason then there was the battery fault. The A380 had its problems when it first entered service but they're long forgotten now, and the Dreamliner will no doubt be the same

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