Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 He proved it again today. The amount of times this season he has struck a ball which has gone out of play for a throw is incredible, and today he missed a glorious chance which knocky was in a better position to take. Not that the penalties don't count, but if you take them away, what has he done? a lucky deflection against derby, poor defending against leeds etc etc. He would only be on about 3 for the season. For me he wasted far too many chances.
elangLCFC Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Watch the goal vs Boro last season then come back to this topic. Maybe not in stunning form but still a more than capable player.
Larry_LCFC Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 He is a frustrating player to watch. Has the ability, but just doesn't use it like he should.
dayday Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 He proved it again today. The amount of times this season he has struck a ball which has gone out of play for a throw is incredible, and today he missed a glorious chance which knocky was in a better position to take. Not that the penalties don't count, but if you take them away, what has he done? a lucky deflection against derby, poor defending against leeds etc etc. He would only be on about 3 for the season. For me he wasted far too many chances. Get your tin hat ready
StanSP Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 'poor defending against Leeds' Look at it the other way... 'predatory instinct to nick the goal'. Stop being so one-sided.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 Watch the goal vs Boro last season then come back to this topic. Maybe not in stunning form but still a more than capable player. I could show you a goal from mark de vries which is 'world class'....but does that mean he is a world class player? No. Time and time again during a match he will give the ball away cheaply, run straight into an opponent, smash the ball harmlessly wide (at least 5-6 times a match). Yes he works fairly hard, but i just feel that we need more from him. For example, after watching watford today, Deeney despite not having his best game won a lot of second balls and recognised he was out of form and decided to just play second fiddle to forrestieri. I personally would much rather have a physical player up top instead of nuge.
tommypello Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 11 unbeaten.... Now some of our players are not good enough.... Why single out individuals?? Nugents not to everyone's liking, however he's been pivotal to our performances this season as have the whole squad, all have different qualities and work to each other's weaknesses, would you have written this stupid thread had we of won??
Stadt Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 I'm not Nuge's biggest fan but that is a ridiculous claim. You could definitely say that about Dyer and perhaps Vardy too, but Nuge is capable of scoring quality goals. Southampton and Ipswich away spring to mind.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 'poor defending against Leeds' Look at it the other way... 'predatory instinct to nick the goal'. Stop being so one-sided. Doesn't matter if you have all the 'predatory instinct' in the world if it is defended properly now does it? Why don't you defend his goal against derby.....you know the one where he was about 8 yards out on his strong foot and was going embarrassingly wide until he got a lucky deflection.
tommypello Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 I could show you a goal from mark de vries which is 'world class'....but does that mean he is a world class player? No. Are you drunk???
wight88 Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Lineker used to wind me up no end when he lost the ball in midfield.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 11 unbeaten.... Now some of our players are not good enough.... Why single out individuals?? Nugents not to everyone's liking, however he's been pivotal to our performances this season as have the whole squad, all have different qualities and work to each other's weaknesses, would you have written this stupid thread had we of won?? I've said it since we signed him last year. Never seen him have a 'great game'. In fact, i have never seen nuge put in a complete performance like wood did against fulham, or vardy against derby. He just seems a bang average player to me. Lineker used to wind me up no end when he lost the ball in midfield. The same lineker which 'never left the 6 yard box'??
MGLCFC Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 4 assists in last 4 games - all round play is good and will score a decent amount of goals. Get off his back, he's part of a WINNING TEAM
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 I could show you a goal from mark de vries which is 'world class'....but does that mean he is a world class player? No. Are you drunk??? You not seen his overhead kick goal then? 4 assists in last 4 games - all round play is good and will score a decent amount of goals. Get off his back, he's part of a WINNING TEAM A decent amount of goals? How many in the league without penalties? 8?
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 I've said it since we signed him last year. Never seen him have a 'great game'. In fact, i have never seen nuge put in a complete performance like wood did against fulham, or vardy against derby. He just seems a bang average player to me. Claim he's never had a great game then use an example of another player from a game where he arguably played better and was fantastic. Interesting
Bert Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 He's a team player. Our top scorer, and has handed in a lot of our goals. Get off the blokes back for god sake.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Foxestalk thread in Nugent scapegoat shocker And Dyer.
Stadt Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Does Knockaert have no technical ability because he gives the ball away sometimes and his free kicks go over the bar? Nobody claimed he was world class and nobody thinks he has outstanding technical ability but to say he has none at all is straight up ludicrous.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 Claim he's never had a great game then use an example of another player from a game where he arguably played better and was fantastic. Interesting Vardy was far better than nuge against derby. It amazes me how stats block people's judgement. Does Knockaert have no technical ability because he gives the ball away sometimes and his free kicks go over the bar? Nobody claimed he was world class and nobody thinks he has outstanding technical ability but to say he has none at all is straight up ludicrous. Does 'lack' mean zero? No. The fact he 'lacks' technical ability implies that he has some.
StanSP Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Doesn't matter if you have all the 'predatory instinct' in the world if it is defended properly now does it? Why don't you defend his goal against derby.....you know the one where he was about 8 yards out on his strong foot and was going embarrassingly wide until he got a lucky deflection. Well no, but then he was in the right place and the right time and TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY. And taking his goal vs Derby, he took a shot, got lucky a bit. So what? Why are you knocking a player for scoring a goal? Is this the best our fans can do? Moan when a player doesn't score the right kind of goals? Do one.
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 Vardy was far better than nuge against derby. It amazes me how stats block people's judgement. No he wasn't. Nuge was phenomenal that game and there wasn't much between them at all. In fact I picked Nuge as motm ahead of Vardy that game.
iamafox Posted 8 February 2014 Posted 8 February 2014 I wouldn't swap him for any other striker in the Championship, even with McCormack, Rhodes, Ings or Austin. Nugent on his day is just as good as those players.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2014 Author Posted 8 February 2014 Grewks - penalties count as goals don't they? Considering the fact he hasn't won any of them..... it isn't easy to score penalties, but it is far easier than scoring them in open play. So take them out of the equation...are you happy with his return? I am not.
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