Zingari Posted 22 February 2014 Author Posted 22 February 2014 I don't know why I do this to myself. A ten second internet search reveals everything. The amazing underground, top secret city is in fact a rentable storage space 6 hours away from the Ozark mountain. http://www.huntmidwest.com/subtropolis/what.html It's a former mine. cheers very interesting quote from the fat bloke with a deadpan expression , " in the event of a disaster we can continue giving care and support, regardless of the devastation outside " very fookin reassuring that its just a big warehouse
Zingari Posted 22 February 2014 Author Posted 22 February 2014 What's your opinion on TWA 800 Zingari? I've not got any opinion on it , mainly due to not really looking into it too much , but I'm sure the official narrative must be the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth because they couldn't and wouldn't lie to the people. They'd soon get caught out because someone would talk . Basically though I can't see how this incident would fit into a much larger pictue in a way JFK-LHO-MLK-RFK-Virgil Grissom- Frank Olson-Gulf of Tonkin- Northwoods -911-Vincent Foster - Dr David Kelly etc etc would . Contrary to an image i seem to have created for myself , I've only been into conspiracy stuff for the last 10 years or so ( other than JFK which I then believed to be no more than an isolated event without connection to a much bigger picture) But a relatively minor event I witnessed in my own lfe made me realise just how incredibly easy the truth can be distorted, twisted , turned on its head and even facts omitted to cause people to believe outright lies and deceit. i came to believe if it was so easy for only moderately powerful agencies to do this , what were mighty ones capable of doing? I wasn't always so suspicious of everything , and basically just believed what the man on the telly told me for most of my life So after all that waffle , what's your opinion Oz on this incident ?
Dr The Singh Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 Calling the 1984 genocide massacre of Sikhs by the Indian government as 'Hindu-Sikh Riots'. There was no riot, riot imply's that both sides a both sides, or atleast one side went on a indiscriminate attack. However this was not the case, the police went to sikh houses, disarmed them, tagged/label sikh houses, and rounded up all the men, then allowed mobs of men to come to those houses, buildings, temples etc and mass murder, and rape....over 10,000 men and children were killed, 5000 women raped. The police ensured no sikh could fight back or anybody could help. During this period, over 500,000 Sikhs were killed, the army would go to town to town rounding up Sikhs and then they would never be founds. Numurous were raped. Evidence is all to see!! Yet the conspiracy is that no western government or current indian government will call it genocide, even though there is a petitiion handed to UN of over 1 miliion signatures asking for a enquiry. Why? One obvious reason is trade, the trade between India and Britian is over 20 billion, second by international law, after WW 2, any genocidal attack must undergo certain juduciary processes, including sanctions, military assistance etc............how foooked up is that!!
Zingari Posted 22 February 2014 Author Posted 22 February 2014 Calling the 1984 genocide massacre of Sikhs by the Indian government as 'Hindu-Sikh Riots'. There was no riot, riot imply's that both sides a both sides, or atleast one side went on a indiscriminate attack. However this was not the case, the police went to sikh houses, disarmed them, tagged/label sikh houses, and rounded up all the men, then allowed mobs of men to come to those houses, buildings, temples etc and mass murder, and rape....over 10,000 men and children were killed, 5000 women raped. The police ensured no sikh could fight back or anybody could help. During this period, over 500,000 Sikhs were killed, the army would go to town to town rounding up Sikhs and then they would never be founds. Numurous were raped. Evidence is all to see!! Yet the conspiracy is that no western government or current indian government will call it genocide, even though there is a petitiion handed to UN of over 1 miliion signatures asking for a enquiry. Why? One obvious reason is trade, the trade between India and Britian is over 20 billion, second by international law, after WW 2, any genocidal attack must undergo certain juduciary processes, including sanctions, military assistance etc............how foooked up is that!! Good example Doc Surely if you can see how easily one conspiracy and cover up can take place just by a refusal to allow the truth to ever come out , you must come to the only possible conclusion that it's going on all the time .it can't possibly be an isolated incident where all the relevant agencies just decide en-masse to keep quiet. Can you see what I mean?
Dr The Singh Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 Good example Doc Surely if you can see how easily one conspiracy and cover up can take place just by a refusal to allow the truth to ever come out , you must come to the only possible conclusion that it's going on all the time .it can't possibly be an isolated incident where all the relevant agencies just decide en-masse to keep quiet. Can you see what I mean? Totally agree Zingari, there isn't any government or agency that I would trust, it's all about what's in there own best interests, and £££££'s. We are all pawns in a bigger game!!!
Smudge Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 i never said it was a secret , i said it seemed an unusual enterprise to build storage facilities and roads inside mountains . Secrecy is so so last decade , there's no need for it anymore When the Germans did it in WW 2 everyone thought it was for nefarious purposes, I was mocking the programme not you.
OzFox Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 I've not got any opinion on it , mainly due to not really looking into it too much , but I'm sure the official narrative must be the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth because they couldn't and wouldn't lie to the people. They'd soon get caught out because someone would talk . Basically though I can't see how this incident would fit into a much larger pictue in a way JFK-LHO-MLK-RFK-Virgil Grissom- Frank Olson-Gulf of Tonkin- Northwoods -911-Vincent Foster - Dr David Kelly etc etc would . Contrary to an image i seem to have created for myself , I've only been into conspiracy stuff for the last 10 years or so ( other than JFK which I then believed to be no more than an isolated event without connection to a much bigger picture) But a relatively minor event I witnessed in my own lfe made me realise just how incredibly easy the truth can be distorted, twisted , turned on its head and even facts omitted to cause people to believe outright lies and deceit. i came to believe if it was so easy for only moderately powerful agencies to do this , what were mighty ones capable of doing? I wasn't always so suspicious of everything , and basically just believed what the man on the telly told me for most of my life So after all that waffle , what's your opinion Oz on this incident ? Virgil Grissom? Gus?? Never heard of that one. Although anyone called Virgil must be up to no good. TWA 800 is about the only conspiracy/cover up thingy where I've thought there might actually be something fishy going on. There were multiple eyewitnesses on Long island who stated they saw a streak of light going up to the plane before it exploded. The CIA later released what I thought was a quite laughable video animation that tried to explain away what they saw. I've since come to realise that the plane was about 12 miles off shore when it went down, meaning many of the witnesses weren't seeing a streak of light from the horizon/sea level as they thought. And hence the video animation is actually quite plausible. In other words, the official narrative must be the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth because they couldn't and wouldn't lie to the people
ozleicester Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 Ok, I can explain everything... JFK, Ozark Mountains, 911.... In 1883 the governement in... oh wait theres someone at the door... ill BRB...
Dr The Singh Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 Ok, I can explain everything... JFK, Ozark Mountains, 911.... In 1883 the governement in... oh wait theres someone at the door... ill BRB... Can you explain the immaculate conception of Mary. I'm sure there's some conspiracy there......why the hell would Joseph accept his Mrs being pregnant Virgin, what's wrong with that man?
Rincewind Posted 22 February 2014 Posted 22 February 2014 Can you explain the immaculate conception of Mary. I'm sure there's some conspiracy there......why the hell would Joseph accept his Mrs being pregnant Virgin, what's wrong with that man? What other explanation do you need other than God did it?
Zingari Posted 23 February 2014 Author Posted 23 February 2014 It's gone eerily quiet in Australia!! it's night time isn't it ?
notnow john Posted 23 February 2014 Posted 23 February 2014 it's night time isn't it ? Fair point but it doesn't normally mute them.
Zingari Posted 23 February 2014 Author Posted 23 February 2014 Fair point but it doesn't normally mute them. i'd guess they're sulking at how we've just thrashed them in the medals table at Sochi . Seriously though , what do you mean about Australia ?
notnow john Posted 23 February 2014 Posted 23 February 2014 i'd guess they're sulking at how we've just thrashed them in the medals table at Sochi . Seriously though , what do you mean about Australia ? South Africa have just stuffed them in the cricket.
Rocket-Ron Posted 24 February 2014 Posted 24 February 2014 Ellie Goulding wins best female solo artist at the Brits last week (yeah I've only just got round to showing the slightest interest). Does nobody else find this rather unusual??
Jimothy Posted 24 February 2014 Posted 24 February 2014 Ellie Goulding wins best female solo artist at the Brits last week (yeah I've only just got round to showing the slightest interest). Does nobody else find this rather unusual?? Talking of the BRITS, I caught the end of it and Pharrell Williams was performing Happy. I've since found out he's 40! Pharrell Williams is 40! He looks 25 at most!
Zingari Posted 27 February 2014 Author Posted 27 February 2014 not sure if this quite fits in with thread title ,but anyway Police to ask home secretary to approve use of water cannon across country Police chiefs say water cannon are needed because 'austerity measures are likely to lead to continued protest' http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/22/police-home-secretary-approve-use-water-cannon-austerity-protest The Metropolitan Police force has not made a "convincing case" for buying three water cannon, a report says. London Assembly's police and crime committee says that, with no specific intelligence of disorder, it is unclear why there is a "rush" to get them. London Mayor Boris Johnson is consulting on plans to pay up to £300,000 for three second-hand water cannon from Germany. The Met says water cannon would be "rarely seen and rarely used". And it claims to have public support for the idea. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26363991 What does Boris know that we don't ? is he expecting trouble on the streets? or is this just a sensible precaution ? i've been mocked a few times on here by suggesting that we are very near to violent confrontation on the streets again .Well imo the signs are becoming more obvious that something is about to kick off .
Jon the Hat Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 They are embarrassed by what happened in the 2011 riots I guess. Whether these would really be useful in such circumstance no one knows.
Zingari Posted 27 February 2014 Author Posted 27 February 2014 They are embarrassed by what happened in the 2011 riots I guess. Whether these would really be useful in such circumstance no one knows. maybe if they concentrated on the root causes of street demonstrations and violence and less of suppressing them i'd have more confidence that i'd nothing to fear.
Steven Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 maybe if they concentrated on the root causes of street demonstrations and violence and less of suppressing them i'd have more confidence that i'd nothing to fear. Quite.
Rincewind Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 The authorities always seem to look for solution rather then preventative cure. There is a saying 'Don't shut the stable door after the horse has bolted., which rings true. There are a lot of people unhappy with certain policies and actions by those in authority that are unseen by the masses or ignored. As issues become known there will be more.
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 27 February 2014 Posted 27 February 2014 http://humanityawakens.wordpress.com/ I quite like Alan Watts
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