Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 A team can struggle in the prem even if they have a brilliant set up, the best owner in the world and a a great manager
CountesthorpeFox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 We won't do a Cardiff. If we did, I'd still enjoy the away days etc but the pantomime would be horrible to witness. For me, purely on playing staff, a better comparison is Southampton.I am so optimistic about the core of our squad.Matty James 22 (23 in July) Danny Drinkwater 24 (yesterday) De Laet 25 (feel his potential is hugely under-rated) Kasper 27 Schlupp 21 Moore 21 Mahrez 23 Knockaert 22 Wood 22 King 25 Granted they aren't all regular first teamers and wont all turn into Gareth Bale but we should be so pleased and optimistic with our current state of squad.You look at the track record of our scouting system under Pearson and its comparable (or I think eventually will be) to that of under O'Neill.watching Lallana, Shaw and Rodriguez for England and the likes of Cork, Clyne and Ward-Prowse I was thinking how we could potentially emulate that with our squad. I genuinely don't think its crazy to say that Drinkwater, James and Moore could win England caps. Whats crazy is the money we purchased them for (how little, obviously not Moore) and how much they've developed playing for us.People keep on saying to me "oh if you go up you gotta spend £20 million at least right?"I really don't think so. I think we are on the brink of some special times.
Bayfox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 We will be fine. Think we will be more like hull than cardiff. Anyway lets be fair. With our finances off the pitch matters just as much as on. Otherwise we may have no club to follow anywhere or maybe just to l2.
Kitchandro Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Of course I wouldn't enjoy losing, no one does. But I've not enjoyed many seasons in the Championship either. 2009/10 was good, the following season was fairly entertaining and exciting at times, the first half of last season was good, and I've enjoyed this season obviously. But the rest of our time in this league since 2003 has been utterly shit and I hated it.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I really do think that quite a few of those who claim they would be patient NOW, will quickly become very different if we start to struggle next season. Somebody mentioned earlier that the match threads go into meltdown if we even concede a goal. That will be much worse if we start getting dicked most weeks. Its all hypothetical of course, but the biggest test of patience may be over Pearson if we are looking really dodgy.
Langston Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Thats the point im trying to make, CB was insane in the championship, and they relied on him way too much to get results. We haven't just got individuals doing well, it's pretty much the whole squad, which is why I reckon we'll be better off should we get promoted. We've got a team here that could compete in the PL, when cardiff went up they didn't have that imo. I think that bar Medel, Cardiff's recruitment in the summer has been their big problem this year. Cornelius for the best part of £8.5 million was one of the worst pieces of business in Premier League history.
Kitchandro Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I don't like Cardiff City. I never have done. But you have to feel for their fans. Years of waiting and hard work has crumbled in 1 season. Tan is answerable for most of the devastation there. Our owners aren't like him so we won't experience such turmoil. If we can keep decent league form then we won't be looking like Cardiff if we go up. One a comical note I'd be gutted if we signed Odemwingie (attitude is a disgrace) and even more disillusioned to have swapped him for Kenwyne Jones (whose attitude and football also wins few admirers) six months later. Shambles. No. Their fans knew what they were letting themselves in for, but didn't care. They were hypnotised by the bright lights of the Premier League and will get what they deserve. It will be so funny if they go down and all of a sudden their fans will stay away, only because they're not in the big time any more.
LCCFox96 Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 No. Their fans knew what they were letting themselves in for, but didn't care. They were hypnotised by the bright lights of the Premier League and will get what they deserve. It will be so funny if they go down and all of a sudden their fans will stay away, only because they're not in the big time any more. The board are responsible for Tan. I doubt the fans knew much about him or his control freak nature. They are not involved in the running of the club and have done their upmost for resisting Tan. Protests against Mackay's sacking and the kit colour change show that. At the end of the day fans have little control over executive decisions, it can't be their fault. As for being "hypnotised" - they were promoted and they were entitled to celebrate that. We would have done the same. It hasn't worked out for them and they'll be back next year now.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 As long as we can survive, then it's on that we may establish ourselves, which would surely be our immediate priority..
MattGamble92 Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I honestly think even without strengthening we are better than Cardiff, Villa and a few of the other sides. We really only need a couple of strong signings in my opinion and we can be looking closer to 10th than 20th
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 No. Their fans knew what they were letting themselves in for, but didn't care. They were hypnotised by the bright lights of the Premier League and will get what they deserve. It will be so funny if they go down and all of a sudden their fans will stay away, only because they're not in the big time any more. Not much the fans could do about it really Most still wear the blue shirts so are obviously not that happy about it
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I'd be chuffed if we finished 4th from bottom
Langston Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Not much the fans could do about it really Most still wear the blue shirts so are obviously not that happy about it But they're still giving money to the bloke that did it. They're obviously not that bothered by it either if they're still turning up to games and their most extreme form of protest is wearing the blue kit.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I honestly think even without strengthening we are better than Cardiff, Villa and a few of the other sides. We really only need a couple of strong signings in my opinion and we can be looking closer to 10th than 20th I think you're miles off.The only sides in the Prem that I think we'd beat at present are Cardiff and Fulham. Villa will be another year older and may well do quite well next season. All the rest will no doubt strengthen. Pearson IMO, would have some big decisions to make in the summer regarding who he felt was good enough in the squad and the type of player he might sign. We are currently a well built and well organised side, flying high on confidence and morale. This may well be different next season. I'm one of the peeps who believes the Premiership, even most of the lower half, is much better than the Championship. I would expect us to be fighting in our own 'mini-league' toward the bottom. I do hope though that the fans and Board don't get twitchy if we start to struggle. We need to keep Pearson, to be patient, to avoid relegation and to build. . If we go up of course.
Kitchandro Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 The board are responsible for Tan. I doubt the fans knew much about him or his control freak nature. They are not involved in the running of the club and have done their upmost for resisting Tan. Protests against Mackay's sacking and the kit colour change show that. At the end of the day fans have little control over executive decisions, it can't be their fault. As for being "hypnotised" - they were promoted and they were entitled to celebrate that. We would have done the same. It hasn't worked out for them and they'll be back next year now. I don't see how you work that out. Didn't the alarm bells start ringing when he decided to change their kit colour for such a ridiculous reason? Ooh yes massive protests, filling the ground week after week, buying the red shirts en masse. Fight the power, eh?
Kitchandro Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Not much the fans could do about it really Most still wear the blue shirts so are obviously not that happy about it I can feel the ground shake with the fierceness of their protest.
LCFC FOX Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 To be fair to Cardiff fans if they stopped going to the game they would lose there season ticket to a united fan. Tan would still make money and why should a life long fan of a club not go to watch his team because of one guy making mistakes?
oxford blue Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 No reason at all to think that - if we get promoted (I'm still cautious but optimistic) - we would be like Cardiff. Cardiff weren't in the bottom 3 when Mackay was sacked - and the fans didn't want Tan to sack him. Provided NP signs a new contract, I see no reason why we can't comfortably finish above the bottom three. He's a very astute manager capable of getting the best out of the players, like MON did (when in terms of individual players we really over-achieved). I'm sure the owners would give the money to strengthen the squad; I think we'd only need a maximum of 2 or 3 new players, if we retain the current squad.
Langston Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 To be fair to Cardiff fans if they stopped going to the game they would lose there season ticket to a united fan. Tan would still make money and why should a life long fan of a club not go to watch his team because of one guy making mistakes? If you honestly think a fairweather United fan living in Cardiff would pay hundreds of pounds to watch their local side lose every week, congratulations - you've successfully bought into our media's infatuation with our top-flight and their idea it's the best in the world.
Grewks Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I think we more than showed enough against Fulham and Man city to show we can compete. Fulham turned up with their strongest back 4, and were given the run around by our current 3rd choice striker, who i thought had his best leicester performance that night. Man city were poor against a weakened leicester side until the moment of brilliance from kolarov. Despite fielding silva, kompany and hart they didn't look anything special. I'm not trying to suggest cup games against premier league sides are an indicator of how league matches could go next season, but combined with our domination of this league i fail to see how we couldn't compete with all sides, especially at home. Recruitment will of course be key, and i would rather us sign pay high transfer fees and lower wage deals, (e.g. Shane long, Dwight Gayle) to ensure should we be relegated we would be in a good position to return. What i am basically saying is i would rather buy the likes of Creswell and Trippier for £3-4 million each as oppose to signing a highly paid ex premier league full back. Hopefully Np's policy would be the same, but instead of purchasing a youngster from a top side in ligue 2, he would have the funding and persuasive power (playing in the premier league) to sign the players from ligue 1 instead.
XLM Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Pearson wouldn't spend 8 million on a striker who doesn't score goals. I honestly do wonder what types of player he'll go for if we were to go up this season. Owners have already proven their patience.
Finnaldo Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 If you honestly think a fairweather United fan living in Cardiff would pay hundreds of pounds to watch their local side lose every week, congratulations - you've successfully bought into our media's infatuation with our top-flight and their idea it's the best in the world. It may not be a United fan, but any part-time Pete could buy a season ticket, it's not as if they knew they'd be bottom by now is it?
Grewks Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Pearson wouldn't spend 8 million on a striker who doesn't score goals. I honestly do wonder what types of player he'll go for if we were to go up this season. Owners have already proven their patience. I imagine the same types he has signed before, but ones which have more quality and as a result will command a higher fee.
JohnnyFox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Why does this exist? Who the fvck would enjoy being a Cardiff supporter this season.
Mickey O'Neil Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Playing in a nobhead dictator's favourite colour, embarrassed by his actions all season, sacked the manager who got you there to replace him with someone with zero experience managing in England, spending millions on players, getting slapped 0-4 by Hull. A categorical no. I would take staying down over doing what they've done. This for me is spot on (except the last 2 sentences!!) We have a great management team. We have a great chairman and board. We have a great set of players who all want to play for the club (this will unfortunately change but I have faith that equally keen players will be added). I am a miserable sod when we lose and for the most part, would hate to be in Cardiff's boots. However, I still would rather be up there than down here. I just think we'd do it differently to how they've conducted themselves. On a side note, there was no reason for Cardiff to dump Malkay (Vincent is still having a pop at him this week). There was no need for Charlton to sack Curbishley. Top and co. have found their man/men and they're the right team to keep us there should we make it. If we do go up and if we did come back down, I'd hope that Nigel and his team would remain at the club.
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