lancyclaret Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Apart from the money and a few glamour games against the top 5/6, the Premier League nowhere near as exciting as the Championship. And you can guarantee if your team loses 3-0, 4-0 etc., you'll have Shearer and Hansen droning on about how awful your defenders on Match of the Day.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 And you can guarantee if your team loses 3-0, 4-0 etc., you'll have Shearer and Hansen droning on about how awful your defenders on Match of the Day. You wouldn't need match of the day for that, there'd be plenty of that on here
Corky Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Apart from the money and a few glamour games against the top 5/6, the Premier League nowhere near as exciting as the Championship. And you can guarantee if your team loses 3-0, 4-0 etc., you'll have Shearer and Hansen droning on about how awful your defenders on Match of the Day. Not sure I totally agree with that, some of my favourite matches were against teams outside the top six: a 5-2 win over Sunderland, a 4-0 win at Derby, several wins over Aston Villa, thrashing Middlesbrough at the Riverside.
Mickey O'Neil Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Just read a few posts again on here. It's good to hear that most are saying, whatever the outcome (if we are promoted) they'd like Pearson to stay. That's makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside! We should know above most clubs that chopping and changing just does not work. I hope Pearson gets tied up in a 5 year contract should we do the business.
Legend_in_blue Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Cardiff have struggled because they've lost their brand of football, not that it was particularly great when they went up. I thought they were a poor footballing side, very good at scraping results, restricting opposition players, organised, rough etc. That was never going to work this season. Bringing in a load of players, the club losing it's identity and Tan going off on one hasn't helped either. We will do well because I believe our brand of football will suit the prem and I don't think we need too many wholesale changes. Five players ought to be enough imo.
dmayne7 Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 Yes, I'd love to be in Cardiff's situation... What a stupid question; who would enjoy watching there team suffer and fail, on and off the pitch, after waiting so long to see them in the top flight?!
Guest Bilo Posted 6 March 2014 Posted 6 March 2014 I'd be chuffed if we finished 4th from bottom I wouldn't. I've seen Leicester sides win trophies at Wembley, go to Old Trafford and come back with all three points, qualify for Europe and regularly finish in the top ten. I want to see Leicester City thrive, not survive.
Grewks Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 I wouldn't. I've seen Leicester sides win trophies at Wembley, go to Old Trafford and come back with all three points, qualify for Europe and regularly finish in the top ten. I want to see Leicester City thrive, not survive. For any side, 4th from bottom in their first season back in the big time is a success.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 I think that bar Medel, Cardiff's recruitment in the summer has been their big problem this year. Cornelius for the best part of £8.5 million was one of the worst pieces of business in Premier League history. It does happen. I know a few fans of 'top 4 sides' who bought season tickets at Reading last year and a few years back when they were in the premier league. It's quite sad really.
dmayne7 Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 I think that bar Medel, Cardiff's recruitment in the summer has been their big problem this year. Cornelius for the best part of £8.5 million was one of the worst pieces of business in Premier League history. I hope you don't take that short-sighted view next year. He came with a massive reputation and they got in ahead of MUCH bigger teams to secure him. He's only a kid, coming from another country, played a handful of minutes and had injuries including missing most of pre-season. He never got given a chance. How many players have slow starts abroad and then end up being excellent. Feel sorry for the lad.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 I've seen Leicester sides ... go to Old Trafford and come back with all three points I'd be disappointed if we didn't do that next season, everyone else seems capable these days!
Langston Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 I hope you don't take that short-sighted view next year. He came with a massive reputation and they got in ahead of MUCH bigger teams to secure him. He's only a kid, coming from another country, played a handful of minutes and had injuries including missing most of pre-season. He never got given a chance. How many players have slow starts abroad and then end up being excellent. Feel sorry for the lad. Clamber down from that high horse of yours. The points you've listed are exactly why it was bad business, just because he's got a large reputation and they fended off bigger sides to sign him it doesn't render the whole transfer any better when they let him go almost immediately. It's terrible business.
Mythyaar Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 Who's to say we'll go straight back down? We won't be any worse than the two teams that come up with us. Assuming that Cardiff and Fulham are down this season, it still means we will have the likes of Sunderland, Norwich, West Ham, Stoke and West Brom as our direct competitors. We'll give it a good go, and if we did survive, we'd be in a great place financially going forward.
dmayne7 Posted 7 March 2014 Posted 7 March 2014 Clamber down from that high horse of yours. The points you've listed are exactly why it was bad business, just because he's got a large reputation and they fended off bigger sides to sign him it doesn't render the whole transfer any better when they let him go almost immediately. It's terrible business. That was the point I was making... So buying then selling him was a bad piece of business not the buying him part? So then why did you say their recruitment was terrible because that only factors in the signings? Funny that as soon as he went back he scored a hattrick (albeit in a friendly but against a side that have played in Europe on a number of occasions). You only have to look at Vardy, who had less things to deal with than Cornelius, and see how he struggled and then look at him now. Whilst I normally prefer to sign really exciting young players, I think that signing 3 or so quality, established top-flight players, will be crucial.
Dan Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 A team can struggle in the prem even if they have a brilliant set up, the best owner in the world and a a great manager No chance. The league is very over-rated and I think a lot of us will see that next year.
Des. Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 If you never get there, you never have the chance to prove you belong there.It is fair to say that if we do go up, then yes we will be in for a difficult season but it can go one of 2 ways. Nobody wants to be going to watch us get beat 4 or 5 nil every week but at the same time the whole point of supporting a club is sticking with them through thick and thin.You never know what the future holds, I'd love us to go up and stay there, we have to take heart from teams like Wigan. Stoke and Southampton who have held there own in the past.
Dan Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 This for me is spot on (except the last 2 sentences!!) We have a great management team. We have a great chairman and board. We have a great set of players who all want to play for the club (this will unfortunately change but I have faith that equally keen players will be added). I am a miserable sod when we lose and for the most part, would hate to be in Cardiff's boots. However, I still would rather be up there than down here. I just think we'd do it differently to how they've conducted themselves. On a side note, there was no reason for Cardiff to dump Malkay (Vincent is still having a pop at him this week). There was no need for Charlton to sack Curbishley. Top and co. have found their man/men and they're the right team to keep us there should we make it. If we do go up and if we did come back down, I'd hope that Nigel and his team would remain at the club. I don't think Pearson will bin off his policy of only players who have a genuine desire to play for the club should we go up. He doesn't strike me as someone who'll change his policies just because it's the Premier League. I hope Pearson is given a proper chance in the Premier League like Mackay wasn't.
RizLCFC Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 I know we have fantastic owners who have been very supportive of Nigel Pearson to date, but if we get promoted, with them being successful businessmen and with all the money being banded about in the Premiership, they'll want to stay there, if that means sacking Nigel after 10 games due to a poor start, I think they'll do it! Sometimes, when money is involved, you become blinded by it, especially in business where you want more and more. Vincent Tan was a background figure at Cardiff last season, but once the promotion was sealed he began to ruin that club. Who's to say our owners will or won't follow a similar path? I really hope they don't but stranger things have happened. For now, I'll just enjoy what we're doing at the moment and hope the owners use the Cardiff situation as a lesson for next season, if we go up!
Dan Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 If they sack him after 10 games then I have little faith that they know what they're doing, and it means they've buckled under the Premier League pressure. Not good enough.
Crinklyfox Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 I've seen a few relegation seasons and hated them all. But a season in the top league that goes well is a joy. There is a satisfaction from beating the best teams that you never experience in the Championship. So let's go up, celebrate and give it our best shot in our season in the sun.
MooseBreath Posted 8 March 2014 Posted 8 March 2014 That was the point I was making... So buying then selling him was a bad piece of business not the buying him part? So then why did you say their recruitment was terrible because that only factors in the signings? Funny that as soon as he went back he scored a hattrick (albeit in a friendly but against a side that have played in Europe on a number of occasions). You only have to look at Vardy, who had less things to deal with than Cornelius, and see how he struggled and then look at him now. Whilst I normally prefer to sign really exciting young players, I think that signing 3 or so quality, established top-flight players, will be crucial. Vardy didn't cost about £12m though and he wasn't meant to be a flagship signing like Cornelius. For all Tan's eccentricity, I think he was well within his rights to be disappointed with the results of Malky's £40 odd million spending spree
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