leicsmac Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 I'm with Alf on this one - been predicting a totally deadlocked Parliament all along and I've seen nothing so far to convice me otherwise. If anything, Miliblands slight rise in popularity makes it even more certain that the Tories and Lib Dems won't get enough seats between them to push them over the finish line. And I'm not sure I can see Labour and the SNP doing so either.
Rincewind Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 I still think we will see Dave and Nick in for another 5 years. Labour always make good noises in an election campaign, but when it comes to putting that X in the box, Milliband comes across as a prat, and people don't want to see a prat in Downing Street. Here we go again... If we only let people run things who have done every job in the field, our talent pool is really ****ing small Ken. I was referring to the comment about a drama teacher giving careers advice being wrong because they have no experience so it is only fair to say the same about politicians who are in roles they have no experience in. I am not saying they should have experience in every field but you cannot knock someone in one profession and not another. I also meant all parties which is politicians and people in power in general all over the world.And why should drama teachers be any less able to give advice than a English or maths teacher? Why do you think there is more apathy regarding politicians and the coming election being no overall majority? Could it be that they are out of touch with a vast majority of people and issues that concern them? Anyway I do not want to be drawn into a long winded argument about such a trivial throwaway comment.
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 The conservatives asking all major firms to pay people to volunteer for 3 days a year so that they can cover roles that used to be provided by government and local government really is a bit desperate
DB11 Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 The conservatives asking all major firms to pay people to volunteer for 3 days a year so that they can cover roles that used to be provided by government and local government really is a bit desperate A lot of firms already implement volunteering policies and I think that is more generous, in some cases it is one day off a month
Webbo Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 The conservatives asking all major firms to pay people to volunteer for 3 days a year so that they can cover roles that used to be provided by government and local government really is a bit desperate What roles are we talking about?
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 A lot of firms already implement volunteering policies and I think that is more generous, in some cases it is one day off a month Some firms do but if it becomes a requirement it is a new business tax and it's often covering roles that used to be funded, if it was just applied to nurse the cost to the nhs is £150m
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 What roles are we talking about? Things like the CAB and other services are now far more volunteer based, used to be funded services
Webbo Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 Things like the CAB and other services are now far more volunteer based, used to be funded services How would a nurse help the citizens advice bureau? You're assuming that that everybody would take up this opportunity and anyway any costs to the business would surely be tax deductible? When you consider all the anti business policies from Labour it's a bit desperate to condemn this which is nothing more than a nice gesture.
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 How would a nurse help the citizens advice bureau? You're assuming that that everybody would take up this opportunity and anyway any costs to the business would surely be tax deductible? When you consider all the anti business policies from Labour it's a bit desperate to condemn this which is nothing more than a nice gesture. Don't be stupid, all sorts volunteer at the CAB, my wife did today and had to deal with a suicidal client, a nurse would have been quite helpful. Have you ever volunteered? It's a silly unfunded policy and not based on ideology
Webbo Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 No not based on ideology at all, just a nice gesture as I said. As I understand it's not exclusively for the CAB, the example on the news was a nurse volunteering for the Scouts and Guides, something that's never been paid for by taxes. If this is the worst thing that happens to business after the election I reckon they'll be pretty relieved.
Sir Fynwy Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 No not based on ideology at all, just a nice gesture as I said. As I understand it's not exclusively for the CAB, the example on the news was a nurse volunteering for the Scouts and Guides, something that's never been paid for by taxes. If this is the worst thing that happens to business after the election I reckon they'll be pretty relieved. CAB was an example of a formerly funded service that is now on its arse because of austerity that I have personal experience of, I never alluded to it being the exclusive recipient, so many services are now relying more and more on volunteering rather than being funded.Announcing a policy that they can't even give any idea of the costs seems fairly desperate and lots of those costs will fall on public employers that they are already asking to cut costs.
Webbo Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 CAB was an example of a formerly funded service that is now on its arse because of austerity that I have personal experience of, I never alluded to it being the exclusive recipient, so many services are now relying more and more on volunteering rather than being funded. Announcing a policy that they can't even give any idea of the costs seems fairly desperate and lots of those costs will fall on public employers that they are already asking to cut costs. I reckon forcing employers to give casual workers full time jobs, enforced price controls, seizing land off builders will affect business worse, but if you're determined to be offended by this then that's your prerogative.
ADK Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 I'm not a fan of volunteering myself, slightly bizarre thing to come from the Tories of all people. Can't see who would be happy.
Rincewind Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 CAB was a valuable service that helped a lot of people who could not afford to pay. Their advice helped me when I found myself suddenly out of work without notice. They do have specialists in various fields who give their time for free. I was seen by someone who specialised in work related law who then arranged for legal aid. I am grateful for that. What will happen to those that are in need of help and advice but cannot receive it because the sevices are no longer available?
Guest WarehamFox Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 Miliband fighting his corner in Scotland, what a waste of time! English parties are done in Scotland. Prob in North of Ireland and Wales soon!
ADK Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 I guess it can't hurt whilst the Tories are running a scare campaign about an SNP/Lab coalition.
Vicki Vixen Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 Interesting piece on Northern Ireland's role in this election http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/generalelection/northern-ireland-is-suddenly-relevant-for-westminster-elections/
Guest Bilo Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 That election hustings was fvcking bonkers! The UKIP candidate didn't turn up because he felt intimidated at the last meeting, there was a racist vicar yelling at the Tory candidate and a BNP supporter who looked literally EXACTLY like Gary Glitter. To the extent I did a triple take. This is why I love politics, it's brilliantly crazy.
Carl the Llama Posted 10 April 2015 Posted 10 April 2015 Before their lead singer found love and turned their music all sappy happy clappy, Big D and the Kids Table decided to vent their frustration towards then president G W Bush and in doing so accidentally penned one of the most to the point, relentlessly contemporary lyrical descriptions applicable to any politician: *wrong video brb* It's very hard picking a side these days. Edit: Nevermind I can't find it For the record the song's called "President" if any of you have spotify or what have you.
Ross-Kemp Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 The CAB are a joke. Financial advice which denotes to "offer to pay back £1 a month", no wonder the country was in the pits. The sooner they cease to exist, the better IMO.
Rincewind Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 Before their lead singer found love and turned their music all sappy happy clappy, Big D and the Kids Table decided to vent their frustration towards then president G W Bush and in doing so accidentally penned one of the most to the point, relentlessly contemporary lyrical descriptions applicable to any politician: *wrong video brb* It's very hard picking a side these days. Edit: Nevermind I can't find it For the record the song's called "President" if any of you have spotify or what have you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEKo3lqU04
Carl the Llama Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEKo3lqU04 Well yeah I found that one but there's no point if the quality's so shit you have no idea what's being said.
Strokes Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 The CAB are a joke. Financial advice which denotes to "offer to pay back £1 a month", no wonder the country was in the pits. The sooner they cease to exist, the better IMO. I agree with the point on £1per month but CAB are a valuable service to a lot of people, its things like them that sets us apart. It should be maintained imo.
The Doctor Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 Louis Mensch of all people taking Galloway apart: http://unfashionista.com/2015/04/11/the-election-bradford-west-has-been-hopelessly-tainted/ Hustings next Thursday will be interesting, arguably game over for Galloway from what mensch has said re: libel and slander rules.
Guest Bilo Posted 11 April 2015 Posted 11 April 2015 If you slander an election opponent during a campaign, it's actually a criminal offence as opposed to a civil one. He could be in deep schtuck for this, especially if Shah can prove her claims. If so, that's probably Galloway's political career over and quite possibly the end of the personality cult he set up.
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