I am really sorry...

[Dan]

He definitely shouldn't be sacked, however I think the OP puts up a good argument that does fit together.

 

For what it's worth I happen to agree with a lot of what he says - I'm just not sure binning the bloke off is the answer.

 

The last few weeks have to me added strength that he's not actually all that tactically. Over-reaction? Possibly. But it's equally as possible that last year was largely helped by a good start and a team that would eventually pick itself, a team that proved to be too good for that league - however people should never forget to mention that Pearson was the man who built that team and that cannot be taken away from him.

 

He's made a lot of good decisions in the past in terms of both tactics and subs - but some of what's been going on recently is inexplicable. The line-ups just get more bizarre by the week.

 

I don't see why he's become seemingly so nervous to play what kind of football we did last year. It isn't like we've lost the players.

[Dan]

I think he is the right man for the job. Or I will think so unless we don't win any of the next 3 games. 

 

I don't think he was prepared for the absolutely catastrophic drop in confidence/form though, and it reallly shows. 

 

I don't think any of us were and considering it isn't the first time it's happened I'm beginning to wonder why. This run has hit me even more than the last one to be honest. It just makes me feel no matter how well we're doing, we're never too far from a complete implosion and that scares me.

 

 

I understand what you are saying but let us not forget that Pearson is new to this Premier league malarky too., as are most of our players.  I think he has had to change the formation from a 442 due to the complete difference in quality from the Championship to the Premiership.  We would get completely destroyed if we went with only 2 in the middle of the park.  

 

I agree about the summer spending though, it seems it was poorly managed and we missed out on a number of players.  My opinion is that Nigel is the right fit for LCFC and we will improve throughout the season, whether it will too late by then is anyone's guess. If you look at the whole picture and the job Nige has done, I just don't know who could come in and do a better one.

 

Myth.

[Guest ttfn]

I don't think any of us were and considering it isn't the first time it's happened I'm beginning to wonder why. This run has hit me even more than the last one to be honest. It just makes me feel no matter how well we're doing, we're never too far from a complete implosion and that scares me.

Myth.

Exactly. I don't remember us getting destroyed by Everton, Chelsea or Arsenal playing 4-4-2.

4-4-2/4-4-1-1 should be our default formation. On occasion we should change it - either in-game if it's going tits up or perhaps pre-match away at the big boys.

[roblcfc84]

I think I should clarify I'm not calling for NP sacked, I am saying based on the reasons stated, primarily his approach, I don't believe he is the right man to keep us in the league. My preference is he turns it round and I say you were all right and it was simply a learning curve issue in a tougher league.

[MC Prussian]

If it stretches to ten, let alone fifteen, then we'll be 4, 5 points adrift and it will be very hard to stay up. The last thing we need now is to be relaxed about our form.

 

I think the point is that just a few games from now we could be on the brink of a very desperate situation. I don't think that will happen but if it does then there will be some big question marks hanging over the manager.

I'm not overly relaxed nor am I overly bothered, the majority of fans are pretty much realistic and/or pragmatic.

 

IF we find ourselves four, five points adrift with ten games to go, it's still questionable whether we can't manage a turnaround.

Granted, we haven't played too well over the course of the past four, five games. Yet I still think people jump to rash conclusions and make the situation worse than it actually is.

[fuchsntf]

...but I don't think NP is the man for the job.

I appreciate the probability of absolute ridicule and abuse for this post. But it is my considered opinion, not reactionary but very considered.

Before anyone accuses me of knowing nothing about football etc etc, well firstly football is subjective so I don't even think that's a valid argument, but secondly like I am sure many of you I have played football to a decent standard, I am qualified coach etc.

The reason I think this is - NP reminds me of another premier league manager not physically or in terms of personality but in terms of one common trait - stubbornness. Arsene Wenger.

The summer was poorly managed from start to finish. We had significant time to plan and build, and I believe and combination of NP approach and this truly naive wage cap ensured that we missed out on a number of targets. NP comments early on in the window that we wouldn't have heard of any of his targets proved to be either misdirection or over confidence in the clubs ability to secure certain players. The protracted pursuit of Esteban was to the detriment of other business, and as much fun as it is to have a legend at the club, not sure he is offering a huge amount at the minute.

Now I am not sure whether it is Ego, or miss placed loyalty or faith in his the players that got us up but it is clear the he is going to stick by certain players whether it is right for the team or not. The continued inclusion of Nugent is bewildering - I understand his role in the team but it simply not happening for him and hard work alone isn't enough. Other players have performed poorly on a number of occasions but still get in ahead of others who are yet to get a fair crack - we have players with PL experience or who have recently joined from PL clubs who are not even on the bench. Like Wenger I fear the more people say Hammond (or whoever) isn't good enough the more they will play - Sanogo springs to mind!

Secondly, I think tactically he has been proven to be out of his depth. Our success last year was built on consistency, consistency of formation and personnel. Yet this year we are continually changing a formation, the team looks unsettled and unclear on their role. 4 CM's today? I understand the diamond but few clubs pull it off but those that do have a genuine play maker at the point and players more mobile than ours on either side. The last 5 games have highlighted how poor the structure has been - putting Ulloa on the left a few games ago - bringing 3 CM's on at the same time - it just all seems so unfocused. Take today for example no width (or wide players) yet we continually tried to play it down the wings. The timing of substitutions is consistently late - we left it until 70 minutes today. No you could argue we were in a good period of play but that didn't yield a decent opportunity and we hadn't had a shot on target that I can recall.

I expected a tough season, I expected to lose many games - but I also expect that if the same 11 or so players struggle to get a result against Palace, a then struggling Newcastle, see out Burnley, West Brom and Swansea (although this was always going to be tough) that the manager will not simply put the same team out and shuffle the formation.

Southampton is a no lose situation as we are not expected to get anything so DS, MA, NP, AK all deserve a chance. For me the club is bigger than once man, I hope he gets it right but for me if we get nothing out of the next three games the club has to take a serious look at NP position.

For someone who says, he has took time considering this thread, and he has put in a good argument,your examples I could say are contradictive to the actual ones you are trying to use to make your point.

Stubbornness and Asene Wenger, year in year out he has his team qualify, with a top 4 position for the CL.They play to his style where many neutrals even respect what they watch with Arsenal.Let city get near his achievements and we would all be happy.

Inconsisteny in team selection, comparing this season with the last.

Last seasons run in we were injury free, top performers easy selection.Like many posters you all forget, we started with our top players having injuries.From 10 games not 7 games with last seasons top performers possible.

When these players returned they were coming back at the higher level, and not immediately with their partners they had such success with and played beside.

Even lower league coaches and ex players, do or should know, it takes time to get into that rythm again, not forgetting they are joining each other at another extreme higher level, plus Pearson was forced if you like, but actually confirmed from disgruntled

posters, that he went to 2nd choice players, Hammond, King, Schlupp, Wood, Gtf, Konch, but it was these players that actually presented us with our best results so far.Not forgetting on the longer term new additions take time to bed in.

Then the criticism saying a poor managed summer, in trying to find, entice quality players to Leicester.

Can you please tell us ignorant fans, 1st who was available, 2nd which of them would have fitted in and had the quality. 3rd Who from them, wanted to come, 4th who could we have afforded ,5th how the hell do you know, what our scouts and management were trying to do, and according to you failing at.With Cambiasso, its obvious they looked at the continent, and spread out their feelers.With Mcarthur it was obvious they were looking nearer home.

Forget Pearsons statement about wanting to stay loyal to his base squad, his management team were looking for players, besides, Cambiasso, Ulloa, Albrighton, Simpson,and the 2 young additions from Manu.Hes proved in the past, he doesnt show his cards too early in the transfer market, for reasons now obvious to many, but to say they were not trying hard enough is just one of those easy kop out throw away statements.

Nigel Pearson out of his depth, ffs what is that for a statement, just 10 games, even if he his making some mistakes, really so what, Ferguson won titles making mistakes, he had top quality players around him.

Time of substitions, bloody hell every week, I question all games I watch all managers substitution timing.

Midfield selection of 4 CMs, why no so called wingback like Mahrez, or Albrighton, or even Knocky, I thought strange, but then again, why not thats personal choice on the day.

Pearson has earnt the right, to try and be expansive, even experimental, but dont bring inconsistency of team selection has an argument, sofar he hasnt had yet a full strength midfield that he could select , over more than 2 games.

IMO and it is just a thought, DD has been below form because he needs his Partner James around him, with some games behind them to rekindle thst spark from last season.They gave us shape, so far we havent seen that holding of shape, too eratic, but 90% of that depends on the players out there on the day.

Your last paragraph over the Southampton game, now that is a good shout, love to see it, with the thought hey lets try it over 2-3 games.

If we had had some luck, with the same good or bad performances, we would now have 4pts more, not 1pt more.So top 12, would the fans then be even discussing Nigels credentials.Yesterday what an unlucky own goal, if it wasnt for that result, I thought city didnt play bad, some good movement, created good chances, not an above avg gam, but still a fair game, for teams in bottom 8.

[LCFC Rennie]

End this thread.

[Moonstomp]

Loads of comments about dip in form and 'loss of confidence' ..... Didn't this 5 game run start straight after what many described as 'the best game' when we beat Manure 5,3? Why?

[maddog]

Seems like a desperate man with the continuous chopping and changing of formations and players, not only in the starting 11 but even on the bench! The only permanance in the side on the outfield has been Nugent, who has been dreadful overall. One goal from the penalty spot, 0 assists and a massive lack of PL quality. His only clear chance when he got himself into a good position came away at Chelsea, since then he can't even manage that.

It shows a worrying lack of strength in our squad that Nugent has started virtually every game with his level of performance. I kind of wish we had sold him before the season started, he was a proven crap Premier League player anyway... Why that would suddenly change in his late twenties I'll never know.

One clean sheet is a massive worry and we can't use the excuse of playing decent sides. Newcastle, Palace, West Brom and Burnley were all well beatable if we had just gone at it and attacked with no pressure.

The good start in the first five games has now been completely wasted... After amassing 8 points so early I can't fathom why the players looked so lifeless at Palace, and that has remained the case in the four games since.

We had nothing to lose after getting the early unexpected points. But rather than staying positive and showing no respect to the opposition like we did early on we have sat back for fear of losing and lacked that creative spark. Showing that much respect to poor sides like West Brom, Newcastle and Palace is bad enough but losing to all of them without scoring?!? Horrendous!

Pearson has the rest of November to save his job. If we get trounced next week the owners have a decision to make with the international break plenty long to get a new man in. Harsh on NP but perhaps he can't cut it at this level, I see no sign this run is going to change. Premier League experience may be what is needed - Pulis being that guy.

[Zapp]

I think I should clarify I'm not calling for NP sacked, I am saying based on the reasons stated, primarily his approach, I don't believe he is the right man to keep us in the league. My preference is he turns it round and I say you were all right and it was simply a learning curve issue in a tougher league.

 

if you dont think he can keep us in the league, but dont want him sacked, then what the **** are you talking about. dont try and please everyone with your post just cus its controvertial

 

the post is complete **** as fairly pointed out by fuchsntf (whose post sums up my thoughts nicely) but you sound a massive tool trying to say hes not the right man but keep him anyway

[Carlos88LCFC]

He needs to go, we're in tailspin and he will not be able to turn it round. Doesn't have it in him i'm afraid. We're merely delaying the inevitable by continuing with him. I expect him to be sacked following a heavy defeat to Southampton.

Haha. Everything about this is wrong.

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[theessexfox]

Jeez some fans must have really hated last season's success, and particularly the win against United. Bet you're all delighted you can crawl back out and criticise Pearson. 

[roblcfc84]

For someone who says, he has took time considering this thread, and he has put in a good argument,your examples I could say are contradictive to the actual ones you are trying to use to make your point.

Stubbornness and Asene Wenger, year in year out he has his team qualify, with a top 4 position for the CL.They play to his style where many neutrals even respect what they watch with Arsenal.Let city get near his achievements and we would all be happy.

Inconsisteny in team selection, comparing this season with the last.

Last seasons run in we were injury free, top performers easy selection.Like many posters you all forget, we started with our top players having injuries.From 10 games not 7 games with last seasons top performers possible.

When these players returned they were coming back at the higher level, and not immediately with their partners they had such success with and played beside.

Even lower league coaches and ex players, do or should know, it takes time to get into that rythm again, not forgetting they are joining each other at another extreme higher level, plus Pearson was forced if you like, but actually confirmed from disgruntled

posters, that he went to 2nd choice players, Hammond, King, Schlupp, Wood, Gtf, Konch, but it was these players that actually presented us with our best results so far.Not forgetting on the longer term new additions take time to bed in.

Then the criticism saying a poor managed summer, in trying to find, entice quality players to Leicester.

Can you please tell us ignorant fans, 1st who was available, 2nd which of them would have fitted in and had the quality. 3rd Who from them, wanted to come, 4th who could we have afforded ,5th how the hell do you know, what our scouts and management were trying to do, and according to you failing at.With Cambiasso, its obvious they looked at the continent, and spread out their feelers.With Mcarthur it was obvious they were looking nearer home.

Forget Pearsons statement about wanting to stay loyal to his base squad, his management team were looking for players, besides, Cambiasso, Ulloa, Albrighton, Simpson,and the 2 young additions from Manu.Hes proved in the past, he doesnt show his cards too early in the transfer market, for reasons now obvious to many, but to say they were not trying hard enough is just one of those easy kop out throw away statements.

Nigel Pearson out of his depth, ffs what is that for a statement, just 10 games, even if he his making some mistakes, really so what, Ferguson won titles making mistakes, he had top quality players around him.

Time of substitions, bloody hell every week, I question all games I watch all managers substitution timing.

Midfield selection of 4 CMs, why no so called wingback like Mahrez, or Albrighton, or even Knocky, I thought strange, but then again, why not thats personal choice on the day.

Pearson has earnt the right, to try and be expansive, even experimental, but dont bring inconsistency of team selection has an argument, sofar he hasnt had yet a full strength midfield that he could select , over more than 2 games.

IMO and it is just a thought, DD has been below form because he needs his Partner James around him, with some games behind them to rekindle thst spark from last season.They gave us shape, so far we havent seen that holding of shape, too eratic, but 90% of that depends on the players out there on the day.

Your last paragraph over the Southampton game, now that is a good shout, love to see it, with the thought hey lets try it over 2-3 games.

If we had had some luck, with the same good or bad performances, we would now have 4pts more, not 1pt more.So top 12, would the fans then be even discussing Nigels credentials.Yesterday what an unlucky own goal, if it wasnt for that result, I thought city didnt play bad, some good movement, created good chances, not an above avg gam, but still a fair game, for teams in bottom 8.

The comment about Wenger demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of the point. It's contextual - Wenger is expected to deliver trophies, actually compete for the title and champions league - his stubbornness cost them in January when he refused to buy a striker and signed an injured player - when they were top. Wenger has done this many times, sticking by his young players and only after winning one trophy in ten years, just might I add, does he start spending. NP is expected to keep us in the league that's his job, not win the league so understand the context.

And to Zap. I'm not trying to get keep anyone happy, I have a view but does that not mean I want that view to be a reality, no. I don't think he is the right at this time, do I want him to be sacked. No I want him to prove me wrong and then it around.

[Dan]

Haha. Everything about this is wrong.

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As per 90% of what Tuna posts.

[reynard]

Ha ha - another over reaction! It's a bad run of 5 games......if it stretches to 15 then we have a problem.

 

If it stretches to 15 we are as good as relegated.

[Babylon]

Because the post covers the end of last season until today, examples are from more than one match. It is clearly an opinion formed over a period of time solidified by today.

And anyone quoting pardew clearly has no concept of the situation at newcastle.

So 10 games then, because you really have no idea what went on during the summer, so I don't know how blame can be put 100% at his door for any recruitment problems. 

[David Guiza]

I don't think he should be shown the door, not just anyway. But, Pearson has made a rod for his own back in many respects by stating that he wanted to keep us as similar to last season as possible.

I know it's a step up in terms of quality of oppositon etc, but there is absolutley no way we'd have tried to contain a team in the manner that he did with West Brom on Saturday, last season. 4 central midfielders was baffling to just about everyone in the ground and it did not work one bit. Yes we didn't really look like conceeding, but we really didn't create a great deal either. Our width and pace last season were always a threat, regardless of opposition, and yet bar Vardy we were lacking that in abundance on Saturday, and for a few of the previous games also.

Getting rid of Dyer, currently, looks like a poor decision also. I was never his biggest fan, but he was always an outlet, even on an off day. I understand that the two year contract he wanted would perhaps have been a poor move on our part, but he's yet to be replaced. It's still very early days, but Schlupp and Albrighton are not an improvement by any stretch of the imagination, Knockaert has been an outcast for the most part and Mahrez appears to have been punished for not being a box to box 110% team player.

I do believe he'll turn it around, but right now we just look lost for ideas and spirit. 1 win can change that, but we really need to be positive against teams like Newcastle (given their form at the time), Swansea (likewise), Palace and West Brom and not try and nick a 1-0/0-1. In my opinion there are at least 4-5 teams in this division who haven't got the quality that we have, but at the moment we're not showing it. Bring on Southampton and hopefully a positive display.

[billyn88]

At the time of writing we are 17th in the league. I'm sure everyone would have taken that start of the season.

He's presided over two phenomenally successful promotion campaigns and bounced back from difficult runs and traumatic games in the past.

Disagreement with tactics I can understand, a desire to see him let go given the above is absolutely baffling to me.