Guest Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Schwarzer's goal-a-game liability doesn't improve Kasper any, but Hamer has to come back in... He's clearly the best of the 3 Correct. I'd place my trust in Hamer. He can work on his distribution. Schwarzer can't change being old and finished.
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 I hate how quickly people have turned against Schwarzer, especially given how patient everyone was with Hamer. Why do Leicester fans always do this? He is a Leicester player ffs. I have seen some people deliver criticisms on here with such vitriol you'd think Schwarzer had killed their dog or something. These were likely the same people who a few years ago started chanting "Weale" while behind Ricardo's goal. You're absolute divs. Why aren't the people who bent over backwards to excuse Hamer's mishaps doing the same for Schwarzer now? When something bad happens and Schwarzer's in goal, it must be his fault, but when something bad happens and Hamer is in goal, is literally everybody else's fault accept Hamer's. I am glad people are supportive of Hamer because I hate it when Leicester players get constantly slated for making mistakes. But why were the pro-Hamer white knights not getting behind Kasper and now Schwarzer in the same way? This goalkeeping debate has opened my eyes over the last few weeks as I had no idea how ****ing thick, dishonest, and totally disingenuous some people are when it comes to football discussions. PS not aimed at you shanetko, you just happened to be the last contributor! Although calling Schwarzer "the worst goalkeeper" we've had is a bit strong I think.
Guest Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 I hate how quickly people have turned against Schwarzer, especially given how patient everyone was with Hamer. Why do Leicester fans always do this? He is a Leicester player ffs. I have seen some people deliver criticisms on here with such vitriol you'd think Schwarzer had killed their dog or something. These were likely the same people who a few years ago started chanting "Weale" while behind Ricardo's goal. You're absolute divs. Why aren't the people who bent over backwards to excuse Hamer's mishaps doing the same for Schwarzer now? When something bad happens and Schwarzer's in goal, it must be his fault, but when something bad happens and Hamer is in goal, is literally everybody else's fault accept Hamer's. I am glad people are supportive of Hamer because I hate it when Leicester players get constantly slated for making mistakes. But why were the pro-Hamer white knights not getting behind Kasper and now Schwarzer in the same way? This goalkeeping debate has opened my eyes over the last few weeks as I had no idea how ****ing thick, dishonest, and totally disingenuous some people are when it comes to football discussions. PS not aimed at you shanetko, you just happened to be the last contributor! Although calling Schwarzer "the worst goalkeeper" we've had is a bit strong I think. No offence taken. Hamer not really made any 'howlers' this season whereas Schwarzer has already made a few in limited game time and Schmeichel had made a fair few too. We were going well and keeping clean sheets with Hamer in so why change it? Seemed a strange way to do things to bring in a 42 year old to replace a younger and talented goalkeeper.
eunmac Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 I hate how quickly people have turned against Schwarzer, especially given how patient everyone was with Hamer. Why do Leicester fans always do this? He is a Leicester player ffs. I have seen some people deliver criticisms on here with such vitriol you'd think Schwarzer had killed their dog or something. These were likely the same people who a few years ago started chanting "Weale" while behind Ricardo's goal. You're absolute divs. Why aren't the people who bent over backwards to excuse Hamer's mishaps doing the same for Schwarzer now? When something bad happens and Schwarzer's in goal, it must be his fault, but when something bad happens and Hamer is in goal, is literally everybody else's fault accept Hamer's. I am glad people are supportive of Hamer because I hate it when Leicester players get constantly slated for making mistakes. But why were the pro-Hamer white knights not getting behind Kasper and now Schwarzer in the same way? This goalkeeping debate has opened my eyes over the last few weeks as I had no idea how ****ing thick, dishonest, and totally disingenuous some people are when it comes to football discussions. +1 We all want city to win. We all want to see the best team week in week out. There's little respect shown in here between people who actually want the same thing (hard to believe some days). Few forums are immune to hater-baiter-trolls, and some days FoxesTalk can be quite funny (laugh at, more than laugh with). Post any kind of thought in here and someone is going to bait (fair par for the course). But as @Marshall points out, the outright player hating from so called city "supporters" is nothing but sad and shameful. On goalkeeping I'd like to see Hamer given another fair go. I've been pro-Schwarzer since his arrival but I think calls for Hamer to get another crack are justified on present form. Let's see how he gets on.
Guest Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Schmeichel is still out best keeper. You missed 3rd out in your sentence. 1 Schwarzer 2 Hamer 3 Kasper. There's not a lot between 1 and 2 but the ball distribution and general command make it this way for me. I lost all confidence in Kasper, sadly. Should be able to sell him for a nice sum to a prem team next season though.
TOMBlcfc Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 1. Kasper 2. Hamer 3. Schwarzer Although i wouldn't irrationally drop Hamer if kasper was to come back. Not been impressed with Schwarzer in any of the games he's played. Definitely feel the safest when kasper is in goal
filbertway Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 4 goals conceded yesterday - he's done nothing to show me he deserves Hamer's place yet.
WardyisPukka Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 I hate how quickly people have turned against Schwarzer, especially given how patient everyone was with Hamer. Why do Leicester fans always do this? He is a Leicester player ffs. I have seen some people deliver criticisms on here with such vitriol you'd think Schwarzer had killed their dog or something. These were likely the same people who a few years ago started chanting "Weale" while behind Ricardo's goal. You're absolute divs. Why aren't the people who bent over backwards to excuse Hamer's mishaps doing the same for Schwarzer now? When something bad happens and Schwarzer's in goal, it must be his fault, but when something bad happens and Hamer is in goal, is literally everybody else's fault accept Hamer's. I am glad people are supportive of Hamer because I hate it when Leicester players get constantly slated for making mistakes. But why were the pro-Hamer white knights not getting behind Kasper and now Schwarzer in the same way? This goalkeeping debate has opened my eyes over the last few weeks as I had no idea how ****ing thick, dishonest, and totally disingenuous some people are when it comes to football discussions. PS not aimed at you shanetko, you just happened to be the last contributor! Although calling Schwarzer "the worst goalkeeper" we've had is a bit strong I think. I understand your point about turning against a player so quickly - but you have to understand we are bottom of the league and our defensive mistakes are not going to get any better so we need a solid GK and im afraid Schwarzer hasn't been solid especially in his shot stopping If its true that NP blames Hamer for the Eriksen freekick then he should get his eyes tested as Nugent jumping 700 yards to the left didnt exactly help
cc_star Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 How anyone rates Kasper is beyond me. If it a case of star name? Or time away from the team means his stock rises Regardless of the Spurs FK, our team has defensively performed best & we have got results with Hamer between the sticks, that's all there is to it
funkyrobot Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 You missed 3rd out in your sentence. 1 Schwarzer 2 Hamer 3 Kasper. There's not a lot between 1 and 2 but the ball distribution and general command make it this way for me. I lost all confidence in Kasper, sadly. Should be able to sell him for a nice sum to a prem team next season though. To follow on with your clever pun - You have accidentally typed 1 next to Schwarzer when I think you nean 3. I like hamer but I don't know what kasper has done wrong, he saved us on numerous occasions last season and this season in 12 games I can only think of one occasion (the burnley free kick) where he was the one clearly at fault. His distribution is the best and most ambitious of the 3. Hamer has proven to be a great keeper and has done little wrong other than a free kick against Spurs when he got mugged like kasper. His distribution however needs a lot of work. Schwarzer's distribution is not much better than hamer's and he has fumbled in 3 of the 4 games he's played resulting in a goal each time. The last one against villa would get him £250 on you've been framed.
TOMBlcfc Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 To follow on with your clever pun - You have accidentally typed 1 next to Schwarzer when I think you nean 3. I like hamer but I don't know what kasper has done wrong, he saved us on numerous occasions last season and this season in 12 games I can only think of one occasion (the burnley free kick) where he was the one clearly at fault. His distribution is the best and most ambitious of the 3. Hamer has proven to be a great keeper and has done little wrong other than a free kick against Spurs when he got mugged like kasper. His distribution however needs a lot of work. Schwarzer's distribution is not much better than hamer's and he has fumbled in 3 of the 4 games he's played resulting in a goal each time. The last one against villa would get him £250 on you've been framed. Completely agree with this
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Schwarzer Worst GK I can remember us having.. shame for him really as he's tarnishing what was a decent career. Clearly past it. Tony Warner was bad, but this has been something else. Game after game. Not saying he isn't playing shit and he should definitely be replaced, but you obviously don't remember Kevin Pressman or Rab Douglas.
Guest Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 To follow on with your clever pun - You have accidentally typed 1 next to Schwarzer when I think you nean 3. I like hamer but I don't know what kasper has done wrong, he saved us on numerous occasions last season and this season in 12 games I can only think of one occasion (the burnley free kick) where he was the one clearly at fault. His distribution is the best and most ambitious of the 3. Hamer has proven to be a great keeper and has done little wrong other than a free kick against Spurs when he got mugged like kasper. His distribution however needs a lot of work. Schwarzer's distribution is not much better than hamer's and he has fumbled in 3 of the 4 games he's played resulting in a goal each time. The last one against villa would get him £250 on you've been framed. Kasper makes great saves but he can't leave his line. He never takes control of the box and every single corner looks as though the opposition will score unless he can pull off a great save. If he could at least learn to take control of his 6yd box, he'd be the best of an average set of 3 goalkeepers. Preferably he could take control of his defence and 18 yd box but maybe I'm asking too much. How old is he now? Can he continue to get better or have we seen his best?
filbertway Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Not saying he isn't playing shit and he should definitely be replaced, but you obviously don't remember Kevin Pressman or Rab Douglas. Rab Douglas My lasting memory of him will always be from a friendly against Lincoln City where he saved a penalty, it went up at a 90 degree angle, bounced and span backwards over him while he was on the floor still haha.
David Hankey Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 All goalkeepers have a weakness just as outfield players and managers have. The only difference, in the main, is when a keeper makes a mistakes it invariably results in a goal. That can't always be said of a striker who misses an open goal or a midfielder who pass goes astray or a defender who heads the ball straight to the opposition. Let's keep things in context.
Guest Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 All goalkeepers have a weakness just as outfield players have. The only difference, in the main, is when a keeper makes a mistakes it invariably results in a goal. That can't always be said of a striker who misses an open goal or a midfielder who pass goes astray or a defender who heads the ball straight to the opposition. Let's keep things in context. but that's what makes a GK crucial. If only our strikers were scoring from a high percentage of our chances then the GK and Wes questions wouldn't even arise. I really think that NP set up at the beginning of the season to win games 3-2 playing exciting football but our midfield and strikers have let us and the defence down.
cc_star Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 To follow on with your clever pun - You have accidentally typed 1 next to Schwarzer when I think you nean 3. I like hamer but I don't know what kasper has done wrong, he saved us on numerous occasions last season and this season in 12 games I can only think of one occasion (the burnley free kick) where he was the one clearly at fault. His distribution is the best and most ambitious of the 3. Hamer has proven to be a great keeper and has done little wrong other than a free kick against Spurs when he got mugged like kasper. His distribution however needs a lot of work. Schwarzer's distribution is not much better than hamer's and he has fumbled in 3 of the 4 games he's played resulting in a goal each time. The last one against villa would get him £250 on you've been framed. Much of the pressure Morgan & Moore were under could have been alleviated if Kasper had of got off his line and collected or punched clear, their were numerous goals conceded in this fashion, most of which were wrongly attributed to Moore/Morgan when in fact the keeper should have relieved the pressure and commanded his box
Kitchandro Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 I don't rate any of our 3 keepers at this level tbh.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 17 February 2015 Posted 17 February 2015 Personally I'll be glad when he's back to fitness
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