Bluefoxtim Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 Just wondering, does anybody think that Williams' corners and freekicks are any good? Personally I don't think he should bother, floating them up in the air next to the keeper won't get us a goal. Remember 'keepers have an extra couple of foot because of their arms. Even if one of the players get there noggin on it, they still have to generate ALL the power themselves which means accuracy can be way off. When Wilcox came on he had a freekick and although it went over everyone's heads it was the right thing to do. He whipped it in hard with curl and players only need to glance it in the right direction to have a good chance, you don't need to generate power as it is already there. Williams must have had 15 corners in the past couple of games and each one has been the same, what have we got out of them? NOTHING. Luton had a couple of corners and they whipped it in, guess what? they scored from one. Yes due to poor marking but still they scored from one. I can't see why someone like Williams should do corners/freekicks like that. Anyone think otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossporterlc Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 whack it in hard, nice to see us trying something new, it didn't work, move on and try something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 I didn't see the game but I think Wilcox should take corners and free-kicks, we sounded more likely to score from them when he was taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefoxtim Posted 27 August 2005 Author Share Posted 27 August 2005 Cox was only on for the last 10 minutes though, so he can't be names as our set piece taker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 Cox was only on for the last 10 minutes though, so he can't be names as our set piece taker But every other time he has taken any, they've been far better than GazWil's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 I think he should go for the good old fashioned , whip 'em in with pace from the instep of his boot! much more success from those as they cause all sorts of trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anish Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 I was at the Crewe game and I was going mental at Williams every time we had a corner. His set pieces are abysmal for the same reasons that you've mentioned - no pace, straight into the keepers' arms. Get somebody else to take them, and worst comes to worst make Joey take them so he can smack them hard and high (like most of his shots at goal!). This has been a problem for quite some time under Levein - we can't score from our own set pieces but we always concede from the opposition's corners. It's a disgrace that such an important part of the game has been completely ignored. Does CL not know the value of corners or is he too blind to see that our 'one trick pony' approach to them just isn't working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 Still can't see quite why Wilcox is left out. Again, it's the effectiveness thing. It's not just racing about you need in footballers. It's a bit of guile too. We're hardly overloaded with dead ball specialists and Wilcox has plenty of experience in this department. Hamill might be okay too but I've not seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 The set peices he takes are shocking. Luton's goal was a lesson how to take a corner whipped in to the back post headed back across goal. Thats what we should be doing , we've got enough big players to cause major problems in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellman Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 The set peices he takes are shocking. Luton's goal was a lesson how to take a corner whipped in to the back post headed back across goal. Thats what we should be doing , we've got enough big players to cause major problems in the box. Good call son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 the set pieces must surely be under instruction from levein as williams is a clever player and i dont believe he would personally continue choose to attempt such a poor tactic. if i remember rightly his corners and free kicks were much better last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 the set pieces must surely be under indtruction from levein as williams is a cleaver player and i dont believe he would personnally continue choose to attempt such a poor tactic. if i remember rightly his corners and free kicks were much better last season Yeh, levein must be telling him what to do, its better to whip 10 in and cause problems then chip 10 into the keepers arms,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 maybe he has a plan but its just not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cisono Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 maybe he has a plan but its just not working I hope his plan includes scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 Williams should started blasting them in, reasonably low and flat, because none of our players can head the ball, so theres no point of chipping it in to the goalkeepers hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_lcfc Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 its like dennis wises corners -shocking you need a david beckham style but with maybe gudjonnson drilling them accross with pace or someone maybe momo could have a go. williams corners are crap as you have to put your own pace on the ball where as whiped in corners already have pace on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 But every other time he has taken any, they've been far better than GazWil's. You obviously weren't at the Sheff U or Stoke games either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 maybe he has a plan but its just not working We did the same at bury but scored 2 goals, this is beacause bury cannot defend, but most teams in the championship can, i just hope levein realises this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted 27 August 2005 Share Posted 27 August 2005 The most frustrating this is that they are so so bad and yet we get about 10 corners a match and do exactly the same thing each time. Sometimes one right after the other even after its not worked the first time. And we've been doing it all season as well. It is clearly a training ground routine (not just where Williams puts the corners, but where all the players stand in the box etc. like McCarthy at the near post - immidiately marked by two of the opposition's players as they know that is where the ball is going) but I wish they'd actually work out that corners are about our best attacking chance as things stand and we're wasting them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnerz Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 He has to vary his corners, keep the opposition guessing however I noticed that players like Connolly were further towards the back post than Dublin/Johansson,surely it should be one big man at the front, one at the back, one on the penalty spot and DC on the 6 yard line. Get it sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitesh Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 We should mix set peices up, keep the oposition guessing! Just as long as out players know whats coming in! Different players should take the set-peices, as this increases the element of surprise for the defence and we could get a few goals from it! It also gives us more options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossporterlc Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 not so long ago we were set piece kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitesh Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 not so long ago we were set piece kings Taggart and Elliott coming from defence for corners with Guppy swinging them in! How times have changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossporterlc Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 i remember being complimented by wenger because we were good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cisono Posted 28 August 2005 Share Posted 28 August 2005 not so long ago we were set piece kings Not anymore! What's happened?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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