Milan Mandaric's plans for the club

[Chandler]

Sometime ago I tried to post on this board and give the real reasons why MM wanted to take over LCFC. I was actively prevented from doing so by one of the moderators more concerned with his own ego than with board members knowing the truth. So I am going to try again...

Lets get the trivial ones out of the way first:

1) Premiership football could be secured for a very modest outlay on the never never for an inital return of £50 million excluding receipts and merchandising ( a 1000% profit on investment).

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

But these are not the REAL reasons. Some of you may know that MM once owned an MLS outfit called San Jose Earthquakes. Well, word on the street is that he wants to own another MLS club. Malcolm Glazer wants one too and so does Randy Lerner. In fact both these Americans bought into Premiership clubs first so that they could then go back and buy in the States. Why do they want to do that. The answer is...

FRANCHISING

At the moment Glazer is looking to buy one of the four MLS clubs owned by Philip Anschutz's entertainment conglomerate AEG who in turn is key to make at least one disposal following the introduction of the so called 'Beckham' rule which now allows MLS clubs the right to have two players on their 'rosters' whose salaries are not capped.

This rule was introduced to facilitate the possible move to MLS of one David Beckham. It looks almost certain that he will be going to LA Galaxy at the end of this season and that the club will be taken over by Malcolm Glazer and be rebranded as 'Manchester United USA.' Colossal TV and merchandising revenues will then be used to pay off loans taken out to finance the purchase of MUFC. This my friends is FACT check here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

Now my spies in the US tell me that MM has been seen both at DC United this season (home of the not so young Freddy Adu and another AEG club) and at New York Red Bulls (yet another AEG outfit and to where David Beckham was first mooted as moving) and that he had expressed interest in getting 'involved' once the Beckham Rule had passed.

If all this does come to pass by 2008/9 we will have a 'twin club' in Washington or New York with the word 'Foxes' in the title and whose players will take the field in the holy blue. Too much isn't it? Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

And enough to make Milan a billionaire by the time he pops his clogs...

[Thracian]

Sometime ago I tried to post on this board and give the real reasons why MM wanted to take over LCFC. I was actively prevented from doing so by one of the moderators more concerned with his own ego than with board members knowing the truth. So I am going to try again...

Lets get the trivial ones out of the way first:

1) Premiership football could be secured for a very modest outlay on the never never for an inital return of £50 million excluding receipts and merchandising ( a 1000% profit on investment).

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

But these are not the REAL reasons. Some of you may know that MM once owned an MLS outfit called San Jose Earthquakes. Well, word on the street is that he wants to own another MLS club. Malcolm Glazer wants one too and so does Randy Lerner. In fact both these Americans bought into Premiership clubs first so that they could then go back and buy in the States. Why do they want to do that. The answer is...

FRANCHSING

At the moment Glazer is looking to buy one of the four MLS clubs owned by Philip Anschutz's entertainment conglomerate AEG who in turn is key to make at least one disposal following the introduction of the so called 'Beckham' rule which now allows MLS clubs the right to have two players on their 'rosters' whose salaries are not capped.

This rule was introduced to facilitate the possible move to MLS of one David Beckham. It looks almost certain that he will be going to LA Galaxy at the end of this season and that the club will be taken over by Malcolm Glazer and be rebranded as 'Manchester United USA.' Colossal TV and merchandising revenues will then be used to pay off loans taken out to finance the purchase of MUFC. This my friends is fact check here

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

Now my spies in the US tell me that MM has been seen both at DC United this season (home of the not so young Freddy Adu and another AEG club) and at New York Red Bulls (yet another AEG outfit and to where David Beckham was first mooted as moving) and that he had expressed iterest in getting 'involved' once the Beckham Rule had passed.

If all those does come to pass by 2008/9 we will have a 'twin club' in Washington or New York with the word 'Foxes' in the title and whose players will take the field in the holy blue. Too much isn't it? Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

And enough to make Milan a billionaire by the time he pops his clogs...

Fascinating and a belated candidate for Post of the Year!.

[Lord Nibblington]

This my friends is fact check here

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

I'm confused how you can claim this is fact. One website article does not make something a fact. Especially when said article names its source as 'Red Issue' an independant Man U fanzine. You have no issue about credibility and relibility of this information? Really?

[Dr The Singh]

Sometime ago I tried to post on this board and give the real reasons why MM wanted to take over LCFC. I was actively prevented from doing so by one of the moderators more concerned with his own ego than with board members knowing the truth. So I am going to try again...

Lets get the trivial ones out of the way first:

1) Premiership football could be secured for a very modest outlay on the never never for an inital return of £50 million excluding receipts and merchandising ( a 1000% profit on investment).

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

But these are not the REAL reasons. Some of you may know that MM once owned an MLS outfit called San Jose Earthquakes. Well, word on the street is that he wants to own another MLS club. Malcolm Glazer wants one too and so does Randy Lerner. In fact both these Americans bought into Premiership clubs first so that they could then go back and buy in the States. Why do they want to do that. The answer is...

FRANCHSING

At the moment Glazer is looking to buy one of the four MLS clubs owned by Philip Anschutz's entertainment conglomerate AEG who in turn is key to make at least one disposal following the introduction of the so called 'Beckham' rule which now allows MLS clubs the right to have two players on their 'rosters' whose salaries are not capped.

This rule was introduced to facilitate the possible move to MLS of one David Beckham. It looks almost certain that he will be going to LA Galaxy at the end of this season and that the club will be taken over by Malcolm Glazer and be rebranded as 'Manchester United USA.' Colossal TV and merchandising revenues will then be used to pay off loans taken out to finance the purchase of MUFC. This my friends is FACT check here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

Now my spies in the US tell me that MM has been seen both at DC United this season (home of the not so young Freddy Adu and another AEG club) and at New York Red Bulls (yet another AEG outfit and to where David Beckham was first mooted as moving) and that he had expressed interest in getting 'involved' once the Beckham Rule had passed.

If all those does come to pass by 2008/9 we will have a 'twin club' in Washington or New York with the word 'Foxes' in the title and whose players will take the field in the holy blue. Too much isn't it? Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

And enough to make Milan a billionaire by the time he pops his clogs...

Very interesting read, indeed!!! Definitely in my 10 ten of all conspiracy theories!!!!

[Jon the Hat]

Sometime ago I tried to post on this board and give the real reasons why MM wanted to take over LCFC. I was actively prevented from doing so by one of the moderators more concerned with his own ego than with board members knowing the truth. So I am going to try again...

Lets get the trivial ones out of the way first:

1) Premiership football could be secured for a very modest outlay on the never never for an inital return of £50 million excluding receipts and merchandising ( a 1000% profit on investment).

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

But these are not the REAL reasons. Some of you may know that MM once owned an MLS outfit called San Jose Earthquakes. Well, word on the street is that he wants to own another MLS club. Malcolm Glazer wants one too and so does Randy Lerner. In fact both these Americans bought into Premiership clubs first so that they could then go back and buy in the States. Why do they want to do that. The answer is...

FRANCHSING

At the moment Glazer is looking to buy one of the four MLS clubs owned by Philip Anschutz's entertainment conglomerate AEG who in turn is key to make at least one disposal following the introduction of the so called 'Beckham' rule which now allows MLS clubs the right to have two players on their 'rosters' whose salaries are not capped.

This rule was introduced to facilitate the possible move to MLS of one David Beckham. It looks almost certain that he will be going to LA Galaxy at the end of this season and that the club will be taken over by Malcolm Glazer and be rebranded as 'Manchester United USA.' Colossal TV and merchandising revenues will then be used to pay off loans taken out to finance the purchase of MUFC. This my friends is FACT check here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

Now my spies in the US tell me that MM has been seen both at DC United this season (home of the not so young Freddy Adu and another AEG club) and at New York Red Bulls (yet another AEG outfit and to where David Beckham was first mooted as moving) and that he had expressed interest in getting 'involved' once the Beckham Rule had passed.

If all those does come to pass by 2008/9 we will have a 'twin club' in Washington or New York with the word 'Foxes' in the title and whose players will take the field in the holy blue. Too much isn't it? Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

And enough to make Milan a billionaire by the time he pops his clogs...

Sounds good to me! Go Milan. I'm on the bandwagon. Yeeeeeeeeehaaaa!

[Manwell Pablo]

Sometime ago I tried to post on this board and give the real reasons why MM wanted to take over LCFC. I was actively prevented from doing so by one of the moderators more concerned with his own ego than with board members knowing the truth. So I am going to try again...

Lets get the trivial ones out of the way first:

1) Premiership football could be secured for a very modest outlay on the never never for an inital return of £50 million excluding receipts and merchandising ( a 1000% profit on investment).

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

But these are not the REAL reasons. Some of you may know that MM once owned an MLS outfit called San Jose Earthquakes. Well, word on the street is that he wants to own another MLS club. Malcolm Glazer wants one too and so does Randy Lerner. In fact both these Americans bought into Premiership clubs first so that they could then go back and buy in the States. Why do they want to do that. The answer is...

FRANCHSING

At the moment Glazer is looking to buy one of the four MLS clubs owned by Philip Anschutz's entertainment conglomerate AEG who in turn is key to make at least one disposal following the introduction of the so called 'Beckham' rule which now allows MLS clubs the right to have two players on their 'rosters' whose salaries are not capped.

This rule was introduced to facilitate the possible move to MLS of one David Beckham. It looks almost certain that he will be going to LA Galaxy at the end of this season and that the club will be taken over by Malcolm Glazer and be rebranded as 'Manchester United USA.' Colossal TV and merchandising revenues will then be used to pay off loans taken out to finance the purchase of MUFC. This my friends is FACT check here:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/storie...27/daily33.html

Now my spies in the US tell me that MM has been seen both at DC United this season (home of the not so young Freddy Adu and another AEG club) and at New York Red Bulls (yet another AEG outfit and to where David Beckham was first mooted as moving) and that he had expressed interest in getting 'involved' once the Beckham Rule had passed.

If all those does come to pass by 2008/9 we will have a 'twin club' in Washington or New York with the word 'Foxes' in the title and whose players will take the field in the holy blue. Too much isn't it? Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

And enough to make Milan a billionaire by the time he pops his clogs...

What a load of tripe, he could of done the above with Portsmouth if he wanted. Intresting read though.

Any of this fantasy story becomes true I wont be complaining anyway.

[bold_fox]

Fantastic Read.

Thank you very much indeed.

A few questions though ?

why would MM take the risk of buying Leicester, who at present are in a pretty dismal position ? Risk paying out on a large number of new players to get us into the Prem ? to then pay out more to get us solidated ?

Point being, why does he just buy someone like Charlton, or even stay at Pompey ?

Just doesnt make sense !

[holly]

dont usually read the long threads as i get bored but i was intrigued with this one

[Jimmy]

interesting, wouldn't be a bad thing if it were to happen

[davieG]

Sounds good to me! Go Milan. I'm on the bandwagon. Yeeeeeeeeehaaaa!

What a load of tripe, he could of done the above with Portsmouth if he wanted. Intresting read though.

Any of this fantasy story becomes true I wont be complaining anyway.

Everyone would be ok with this:

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

[Manwell Pablo]

Everyone would be ok with this:

2) A revival of the 'merger' with the Tigers would facilitate the reacquisition of The Walkers (and expansion) and slash administration and marketing costs.

Well....if it ment a Premier league challenge I'd be happy. Lets face it were never going to do it without doing something extremly drastic are we.

As I have said though, I reckon Mr Chandler has had a sit down and thought long and hard about how he can stir things up on here. He probabley thinks watching some of the less intellegent posters on here rant and rave about Leicester winning Prem in 5 years time is funny.

[Chandler]

No there are many other sources for this - just google David Beckham and look at 'News' for starters. But I got the MM story if not exactly from the horses mouth than from carefully inspecting its droppings!

And MM had to sell his Pompey shares to finance this. He's buying LCFC for virtually nothing (last year's 12th best supported club in English football) and will certainly need all of the remainder and more besides to get either DC or Red Bull

Critically though, he has bought a well branded club (if 'Foxes' isn't one of the best domestic footie names suited to the MLS I don't know what is) and it plays at a newbuild stadium heavily influenced by American sports structures. Pompey are crap in either department (one of the reasons MM upped sticks was because the planning application for the 'new' Fratton Park was turned down).

Incidentally, new legislation before the EU parliament will soon allow football club franchising in Europe and will even allow clubs to relocate a la Wimbledon/MK Dons.

Anyone fancy 'Red Star Foxy Tigers?'

[Swedging]

Back of the envelope calculations show that whole franchise revenues by 2010 will be inexcess of £150 million per annum - second only to MUFC (yes, more than Chelsea) and enough to launch a Premiersip title bid.

Odd envelope. The article suggest that total MLS TV revenue was $20 million this year. Say $1 million per club. That's got to go up an awful lot...

[Phube]

Cool;

The Washington 'Lee-ice-cester-shy-er' Foxes!!!

I like the sound of that!!!

[Lord Nibblington]

No there are many other sources for this - just google David Beckham and look at 'News' for starters. But I got the MM story if not exactly from the horses mouth than from carefully inspecting its droppings!

http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=180462

That seems to suggest that the link isn't all that.

The whole rebranding idea seems based on conjunction and speculation about possible takeovers. I can't say I'm overly convinced.

[placidcasual]

A couple of things.

AEG do not own Red Bull New York. Funnily enough they are owned by Red Bull who bought the team earlier this year and are currently dumping a lot of money into the club. They also own a team in Austria, Salzburg i believe.

Also Mandaric never owned the MLS version of the Earthquakes. He owned the NASL version. Completely different teams. The MLS team were were owned by:

Major League Soccer (1996-1998)

Kraft Sports Group (1999-2000)

Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment (2001)

Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment (Operations) / Anschutz Entertainment Group (Investment) (2002)

Anschutz Entertainment Group (2003-2005)

The San Jose Earthquakes currently do not exist. They were moved to Houston at the end of the 2005 season.

Oh and the so called Beckham rule is not quite what you are quoting. The first $400k applies against the salary cap (currently just under $2 million) after that the team are free to pay the player what they want.

[Chandler]

Odd envelope. The article suggest that total MLS TV revenue was $20 million this year. Say $1 million per club. That's got to go up an awful lot...

There's a zero (and more) missing there. And they are set to rise MASSIVELY. Exactly how much is contingent upon Beckham, Ronaldo (the Real Madrid one) et al signing up.

There's no way the likes of Glazer would have considered mortgaging himself to the hilt to pay well over the odds for MUFC if this possibility didn't exist.

By the way you can thank 'Mark the Mod' from me for breaking this story today. I could have told you most of this weeks ago but he decided to censor my posts because I had a dig at his his fascist tactics.

Go on PM him and tell him what a tosspot he is!

[placidcasual]

Odd envelope. The article suggest that total MLS TV revenue was $20 million this year. Say $1 million per club. That's got to go up an awful lot...

MLS has never had any TV revenues. They used to pay to be on ESPN. However from next season ESPN are paying MLS to broadcast games on a Thursday night. There is not a big market for tv rights over here. During the season, baseball dominates the tv and then towards the end of the season College (american) Football and the NFL do.

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ym...s&fext=.jsp

[placidcasual]

There's a zero (and more) missing there. And they are set to rise MASSIVELY. Exactly how much is contingent upon Beckham, Ronaldo (the Real Madrid one) et al signing up.

You have no idea what you are talking about. MLS tv rights are worth nothing. You are confusing MLS right fees with the rights fee for the World Cup that ABC/Disney paid. As your original link states it is $20 million per seaon for the whole league from next season.

Next season, ESPN, Univision, Fox Soccer Channel and HDNet will combine to pay more than $20 million in rights fees for MLS matches for the first time in the league's 12-year history

A national game for MLS averages about 600000 viewers............................If that.

[Manwell Pablo]

A couple of things.

AEG do not own Red Bull New York. Funnily enough they are owned by Red Bull who bought the team earlier this year and are currently dumping a lot of money into the club. They also own a team in Austria, Salzburg i believe.

Also Mandaric never owned the MLS version of the Earthquakes. He owned the NASL version. Completely different teams. The MLS team were were owned by:

Major League Soccer (1996-1998)

Kraft Sports Group (1999-2000)

Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment (2001)

Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment (Operations) / Anschutz Entertainment Group (Investment) (2002)

Anschutz Entertainment Group (2003-2005)

The San Jose Earthquakes currently do not exist. They were moved to Houston at the end of the 2005 season.

Oh and the so called Beckham rule is not quite what you are quoting. The first $400k applies against the salary cap (currently just under $2 million) after that the team are free to pay the player what they want.

All very correct, Red Bull Salzburg in fact. as you can imagine the Salzburg fans weren't exactly over the moon with the name change. Trappatoni is in as manager, things are happening there.

Red Bull are looking to expand their sports emprie ( currently consisting of two football teams, two F1 teams and a European Ice Hockey team I believe, quite possible even more ) they wont be selling the artists formally known as the Metro Stars any time soon as thats a non starter.

[Chandler]

All I'll say to you sceptics is - wait till the summer!

Then I'll watch you eat humble pie...

[Dr The Singh]

All I'll say to you sceptics is - wait till the summer!

Then I'll watch you eat humble pie...

Fair doos, I have no problem with eating humble pie aslong as it's apple or rhubarb, but I prefer crumble myself!!! But I get a feeling it ain't gonna happen!!!

[Lord Nibblington]

All I'll say to you sceptics is - wait till the summer!

Then I'll watch you eat humble pie...

About what? Like I said, I don't really see why I should be buying into everything you've said is going to happen based on what appears to be some rumour and speculation. This is the fun world of football. Rumours are all over the shop. Most of them are garbage. I can't really see anything to show me that this isn't the same.

[The People's Hero]

I spent a happy 3 years playing in the MLS.

Ahhh, happy days.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Ha!