Dylan Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Wondering what you think the team should be for saturday. Do we stick to the same team- a winning team- or change it with players like Dyer, Vassell, and Davies possibly coming into contention. Should we go 4-4-2 or the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation? From how it sounded on commentary, Vitor was solid- therefore deserving a place in the starting lineup on Saturday, meaning if he wants to bring in Davies, Hobbs would probably have to be dropped. However, I would leave the back 4 as it was, as they kept a clean sheet, no matter what formation we play. Abe sounded like he had a great game, so I think he should start. King is always a threat, so he should start. So do we go 4-3-3 to fit Wellens in too, or go 4-4-2 (which is our best formation imo)? Or do we play 4-4-2 with Abe on the right? Do you think Dyer should start if he's fully fit? He'd fit in both formations. If so, who deserves to be dropped? Gallagher sounded like he put in a good shift too, scoring the winner- so I think he warrants another start. Could either play up front in a 2,3 or wide-midfield- i'm still unsure on his best position. If Vassell's fit/registered, do we start him or put him on the subs bench? Just interested to find out what you think the starting XI and the subs bench. Also, am I right in assuming we played a 4-3-3 on saturday, or was it 4-4-2 with Abe and Gally on the flanks.
JohnnieSpangles Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Wondering what you think the team should be for saturday. Do we stick to the same team- a winning team- or change it with players like Dyer, Vassell, and Davies possibly coming into contention. Should we go 4-4-2 or the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation? From how it sounded on commentary, Vitor was solid- therefore deserving a place in the starting lineup on Saturday, meaning if he wants to bring in Davies, Hobbs would probably have to be dropped. However, I would leave the back 4 as it was, as they kept a clean sheet, no matter what formation we play. Abe sounded like he had a great game, so I think he should start. King is always a threat, so he should start. So do we go 4-3-3 to fit Wellens in too, or go 4-4-2 (which is our best formation imo)? Or do we play 4-4-2 with Abe on the right? Do you think Dyer should start if he's fully fit? He'd fit in both formations. If so, who deserves to be dropped? Gallagher sounded like he put in a good shift too, scoring the winner- so I think he warrants another start. Could either play up front in a 2,3 or wide-midfield- i'm still unsure on his best position. If Vassell's fit/registered, do we start him or put him on the subs bench? Just interested to find out what you think the starting XI and the subs bench. Also, am I right in assuming we played a 4-3-3 on saturday, or was it 4-4-2 with Abe and Gally on the flanks. There are 3 or 4 that shouldn't be near the first team. Sven is weeding them out. Once again the strikers failed so God knows why they would stay the same again.
Jakemoore Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Gk. Weale RB. Noughton CB. Davies CB. Hobbs LB. Berner CDM. Wellens CDM. Abe RW. Dyer. LW. Moussa CAM. King STR. Waghorn Obviously they'd all have to be fit. And Vitir deserves a place, but, Davies and Hobbs are to good for the bench. Vasell should get at least 35 minutes if fit.
JohnnieSpangles Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Gk. Weale RB. Noughton CB. Davies CB. Hobbs LB. Berner CDM. Wellens CDM. Abe RW. Dyer. LW. Moussa CAM. King STR. Waghorn Obviously they'd all have to be fit. And Vitir deserves a place, but, Davies and Hobbs are to good for the bench. Vasell should get at least 35 minutes if fit. You have no idea do you? How can you leave Vitor out when he has been the best player in a City shirt 2 games running? Cunningham put in a better performance yesterday than Bruno has done all season.
ScouseFox Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Weale Naughton Vitor Hobbs/Davies (if fit) Cunningham Abe Wellens King Dyer Waghorn Howard/Vassell (if fit) If Waghorn proves to be quite ineffective as he was yesterday, then bring on Moussa/Gallagher and switch to 4-3-3. Still struggling to see where the goals are going to come from in this side though.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 I'm honestly not sure whether you play Davies or not, would be unfair on Vitor if he had to make way, whilst Hobbs did look shakey vs PNE. But then we ddi keep a clean sheet and need to be consistent at the back. Weale Naughton Vitor Hobbs Cunnigham Abe Wellens King Gallagher Howard Waghorn Subs: Logan, Davies, Dyer, Fryatt, N'Guessan, Moreno, Moussa
Wymsey Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 I'm honestly not sure whether you play Davies or not, would be unfair on Vitor if he had to make way, whilst Hobbs did look shakey vs PNE. But then we ddi keep a clean sheet and need to be consistent at the back. Weale Naughton Vitor Hobbs Cunnigham Abe Wellens King Gallagher Howard Waghorn Subs: Logan, Davies, Dyer, Fryatt, N'Guessan, Moreno, Moussa Why Gallagher on left? Really think Dyer should be in there as he gives more pace and used to the position.
YukiAbe22 Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Should be 4 - 4 - 2 GK - Chris Weale / Michael Rensing if we manage to pick him up in time. RB - Kyle Naughton LF - Greg Cunningham CB - Curtis Davis CB - Miguel Vitor RM - Lloyd Dyer CM - Yuki Abe CM - Andy King © LM - Paul Gallagher CF - Martyn Waghorn CF - Steve Howard ( Disagree you may - but Howard is the one who is more likely to win the headers ) And LET ABE TAKE FREE KICKS Vassell should replace Waghorn with 20 minutes or so to go.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Why Gallagher on left? Really think Dyer should be in there as he gives more pace and used to the position. Because he often plays on the left, he did yesterday and scored. I dont think you should make changes to a winning team either, though I would play big Steve ahead of Fryatt.
LcfcLuke Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Weale Naughton Vitor Hobbs/Davies (really tough one) Cunningham Abe King Wellens Gallagher Fryatt Howard Waghorn needs to be put on the bench for the meanwhile to show him just because we paid 2mill he won't automatically start!
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Weale / Rensing (if signed) Naughton Hobbs Vitor CunninghamAbeWellens KingGallagher / MoussaVassell Waghorn
thybluefox Posted 31 October 2010 Posted 31 October 2010 Waghorn needs to be put on the bench for the meanwhile to show him just because we paid 2mill he won't automatically start! So you'd start a weaker striker just to teach a player a lesson? Come on.
bettso Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Don't think we should change a winning team. THIS Davies is better than Hobbs but Hobbs is our player and after keeping a clean sheet, his already diminished confidence would take a real knock if he were to be dropped.
conradno1 Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Weale Naughton Vitor Hobbs/Davies (really tough one) Cunningham Abe King Wellens Gallagher Fryatt Howard Waghorn needs to be put on the bench for the meanwhile to show him just because we paid 2mill he won't automatically start! this!
teblin Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Personally I'd put Vassell in for fryatt or waghorn if he get the clearance has the pace for an outlet ball.
marbelladave Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Having just won and maintained a clean sheet my first reaction is to say same again, particularly as we have been chopping and changing so much recently. On further thought although a few of our players played quite well, I did not think the perfornance as a team was up to much, particularly second half. So I would keep faith with the bulk of the team but change our setup to something like this; Weale Naughton--Hobbs--Vitor--CunninghamAbe--King--WellensGallagher--Waghorn--Vassell I am assuming that neither Davies nor Dyer will be fit so I have not considered them. Still really have little idea of how Sven sees the current squad and to be honest I believe he is having problems with them too. My usual inclination is to get your best players in their strongest positions but options are really limited. Gallagher and Abe have both been filling in in the wider positions and both do their best work in more central positions, with Dyer and DN'G both looking off the pace we are struggling with any width, so my team selection has a narrow three man midfield to allow the width to come from the fullbacks, the midfield have to be prepared to cover for them though!
JohnnieSpangles Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Having just won and maintained a clean sheet my first reaction is to say same again, particularly as we have been chopping and changing so much recently. On further thought although a few of our players played quite well, I did not think the perfornance as a team was up to much, particularly second half. So I would keep faith with the bulk of the team but change our setup to something like this; Weale Naughton--Hobbs--Vitor--CunninghamAbe--King--Wellens MoussaGallagher--Waghorn--Vassell I am assuming that neither Davies nor Dyer will be fit so I have not considered them. Still really have little idea of how Sven sees the current squad and to be honest I believe he is having problems with them too. My usual inclination is to get your best players in their strongest positions but options are really limited. Gallagher and Abe have both been filling in in the wider positions and both do their best work in more central positions, with Dyer and DN'G both looking off the pace we are struggling with any width, so my team selection has a narrow three man midfield to allow the width to come from the fullbacks, the midfield have to be prepared to cover for them though! Take Fatso out the team and put Moussa in who was excellent against WBA before being shunted out wide to accomodate Wellens and you have a team.
NGoloMode Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 We could potentially have a back 4 of loan signings.
muzzy1981 Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 THIS Davies is better than Hobbs but Hobbs is our player and after keeping a clean sheet, his already diminished confidence would take a real knock if he were to be dropped. I agree the davies hobbs dilema is difficult, Vitor should play after x2 solid perfromances. I guess only Sven really knows how likely our chances are of getting davies more permanentely. If there is a good chance this happening then I would try and play Davies as much as possible, but if he is likely to be going back to Villa shortely, then we need to get Hobbs back to last seasons form and leaving him out ain't going to do it.
marbelladave Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 Take Fatso out the team and put Moussa in who was excellent against WBA before being shunted out wide to accomodate Wellens and you have a team. Fair comment... I am not much of a Wellens fan but I did think he was much improved on saturday so I went with continuity after a win and a clean sheet. My prefered set up, which I have posted many times, is to have King and Abe in front of the back 4, a creative player (Moussa or Gallagher) in the hole and two wide men well forward supporting the central striker. If Dyer is fit than he would go wide right with Gallager dropping into the attacking mid role, his lack of defensive steel is counterbalanced by having Abe and King behind him, so; Weale Naughton--Hobbs--Vitor--Cunningham Abe--King Dyer--Gallagher--VassellWaghorn
MikeyT Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 I'd say stick with the same team that won against Preston, apart from maybe sticking Vassell in there somewhere, either up front or instead of Gallagher.
JohnnieSpangles Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 I'd say stick with the same team that won against Preston, apart from maybe sticking Vassell in there somewhere, either up front or instead of Gallagher. So you'd drop Gallagher ahead of either the ineffective Fryatt or Waghorn?
xplicitmaterial Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 weale cunningham hobbs vitor naughton moussa abe king © gallagher fryatt howard waghorn ikeme wellens morrison vassell dyer oakley
tomtom Posted 1 November 2010 Posted 1 November 2010 So you'd drop Gallagher ahead of either the ineffective Fryatt or Waghorn? He probably deserves to keep his place if fit but I can't see him holding it down as he's too inconsistent
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