bovril

Bit of a King John vibe. Idiot son surrounding himself with yes men, loses half the kingdom.

Monopoli is a lovely town and I was surprised how popular the team is there and how they've improved. Thrashed Foggia away last year who I always had down as a pretty big club in the region.

Just imagining some of our fans piling out of the Fox Travel coach that has broken down somewhere in eastern Anatolia.

Arda Kardzhali, managed by Tunchev, qualified for the next round of the Conference League. Would be an interesting away trip for sure.

Yeah it'd be great to uninvent it (apart from foxestalk of course). I do think though it is more corrosive in a country like England with its very individualistic culture and declining wealth.

I remember us blowing Watford away in 2007 and thinking we might qualify for the playoffs. So you never know...

That is a hell of a long way to travel to lose on penalties.

'worst' in the context of what it meant has to be Maddison's. Was an awful penalty too.

I don't think he's talking about depression or anything, he's talking about players being visibly unhappy with the terms of their unemployment when compared to most of us they are very privileged. Winks does come across as pretty spoiled and thin-skinned to be honest.

Definitely more Tenerife than Trafalgar tonight

The Little Bird

for crimes agaist football?

Just seeing Oliver Skipp though just makes me want to get into a bath with a toaster

It is very depressing sometimes watching what we've become

Agree that Britain's political discourse is absolutely exhausting and it's also remarkable how many people have internalized the idea that things they don't like (mostly immigration) is the fault of Labour. Cognitive dissonance I guess.

well this is shite

Geoff Peters

My own theory which I am honing into a 10,000 word essay I will submit to the LRB is that a lot of it is simply parochial, monolingual Anglophones coming into contact via social media with a variety of opinions that contradict their own, which drove them insane.

British political discourse from like 2012-2016 was full of the looniest shit you've ever heard. And plenty of anti immigrant stuff too, it was just directed towards Europeans and thus seen as more acceptable. I actually think it calmed down a little after 2016 as people took stock after Brexit.

I think the issue is that our living standards have declined so much in this country relative to others and people are flailing about trying to do something about it without really having any kind of coherent answer, while ignoring the things that have caused it because they don't want to lose voters. Transplant that on to a very individualistic society where most social bonds and sense of community have slowly unravelled and you have the cluster**** which is British politics 2025.

God we've had some crap, twattish centre halves haven't we. Mills, Brown, St Ledger, Coady, Faes....

He did leave under a cloud, though he is certainly more popular than McGhee.

I know mentioning this marks you down as a happy clapper on this site but he is one of only four managers to have won a major honour with us. Taylor is surely more unpopular especially as he brought in Wise.

Maybe the opposite in terms of Slimani. Was talented but didn't fit the culture or team

Apologies if I'm out of the loop but what did Hobbs do?