DennisNedry

Never heard of him. Let's hope he's decent, it's a position we are extremely weak in.

54m for Neto and 60m for Solanke 😂

Feels like the closest we've been to full on race riots for a very long time. For balance, some groups of Muslim men are reacting in a similar thuggish fashion to the white trash:

I went to McDonald's recently and was surprised by how pricey it has become. The quality has always been rock bottom, but at least when it was so cheap you could kind of justify it. I think it's one of those juggernaut brands that it kind of invincible because it's so ingrained in the public mindsets. If it came out tomorrow, brand new, I reckon people wouldn't actually like it.

There must be a way to monetise this. How about we round up all the EDL rioters? Then go around UK prisons and extract all the black and brown Asian prisoners who have been convicted of violent crime or terrorism. Drop them all off in a massive field. They all get to pick one weapon each. No firearms allowed. Anything else goes. Last man standing wins.

You definitely are British. What do you fill in on the Census or an NHS form? I think there is more of an ethnic connotation with English or Welsh for example than there is with British. Would you describe yourself as English too? I know a lot of non white Brits wouldn't label themselves English. But yes you are correct it is an arbitrary thing. How many of us actually know our heritage beyond the 3 or 4 generations above us? I got into an Ancestry rabbit hole a few years back and the furthest I could get back was the late 1700s, which is still pretty recent really in the grand scheme of things.

Just my two cents on this, anybody can be a British citizen if they are born here, or migrates here legally and meets the necessary requirements for citizenship. I don't know what they officially are but in my mind that would be living here permanently for a number of years, no criminal record, contributes to society in some way (such as via their job). Beyond citizenship, to actually be British, Italian, Indian, Columbian or whatever depends a lot more on subjective opinion. For example, the vast majority of Japanese people would not accept you or me as 'Japanese' if we happened to have been born and raised there. We would be citizens, but not 'proper' Japanese, because we are not ethically Japanese. As time goes on I do think that ethnicity will become more and more irrelevant in the determination of nationality, especially in Europe.

The far right have picked the wrong attack to go mental over. If they'd done so after saying, the Manchester Arena bombing, it would've been a lot more legitimate. I.e. the perpetrator shouldn't have even been in the UK, he was being monitored by MI5, etc. In this instance though there is no government policy that could have prevented this horrible crime. There may be failings revealed later (such as a criminal history meaning he could have been jailed) but realistically you can't prevent a nutter from getting his hands on a knife and killing people.

I never know with Twitter what's real and what is propaganda. It may go some way to explaining why a mosque was targeted. Or it might be as made up as the claim that the attacker was a channel migrant. I doubt we'll ever find out to be honest.

I might be reading the 'room' wrong but I thought the reaction from the crowd was generally one of shock and disapproval. Awful stuff though, of course. I think you could fill 5 pages a day of stuff like this from Twitter.

The extremely uncomfortable truth is that, in the past decade or so, these types of attacks (where the general public are targeted) have overwhelmingly been carried out by black and/or brown people and perpetrated against white people. A lot of these attacks loom large in the public memory. I think most people could reel a lot of them off the top of their head. That's not racist, it's just fact. Some of these attacks (like the Nottingham stabbing) aren't even listed here as they're not terrorist attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#2010s Can you therefore really not understand the EDL knuggle draggers rioting? Obviously I don't condone it, and it's misplaced in this instance, but I do understand it. It's a wild, uneducated swing at a sitation they have no control over and do not understand. The EDL are an easy target of ridicule, and a socially acceptable one to ridicule at that. For me they're just a small part of the whole ****ed up mess that is British society in 2024. I can only see it getting worse too. Christ, I've depressed myself re-reading that.

Re the Muslamic ray gams bloke, wasn't he actually referring to Islamic Rape Gangs? Something which at the time was being covered up, but we now know to have been a deeply horrific long term issue? Regardless it seems a bit mean laughing at someone who's clearly got learning difficulties 😂

Funny how this thread has popped up now, I *might* have it. We haven't got any COVID tests so I won't know. Fever, shivers/sweats, banging headache, exhaustion and nausea. Leaning towards Tonsillitis though as my throat is red and swollen with little yellow dots. Either way, it's grim. I'm only on Day 3 though and am already improving on yesterday.

Fair enough, it was the particular use of the word "thuggery" re Southport which caught my eye though which I think is applicable in all instances. Does anybody subscribe to the idea that these societal fractures and conflicts are by design? Or is it all conspiracy BS? I'm seeing a lot of stuff shared on Social Media and I just don't know 🤷🏻‍♂️

My only question is why do we hold white British people to a higher standard than ethnic minorities when it comes to rioting and disorder? It's great to see thugs being called out as thugs re Southport. I don't remember seeing the same reaction from politicians, the media, and in here for the rioting in Leeds and Manchester?

Just in the past few weeks we've had Roma's smashing up a town centre, Muslims protesting outside a police station, and now Nazis attacking police on the night of a vigil for murdered kids. The fault lines in society are clear for all to see. It's depressing.

Reserving comment on Southport until we know the full details. As a parent to a young child though, it's absolutely horrifying. I cannot begin to imagine the pain.

We've all got stories like that it seems. A bloke I know who retired about 10 years ago is enjoying a very very comfortable retirement. He's abroad 3 or 4 times a year and he's invariably on the golf course when in the UK. Every year he loves winding me up how my taxes are paying for his winter fuel allowance that he usually spends on champagne or a new golf club.

Today, a driver doing 27mph on the 50mph from Croft to Narborough, maintaining the 27mph through the 40mph, and then drifting across the lanes on the roundabout and almost side swiping me. I went past him and had a look, he looked very old and frail, had a tube in his nose. It is insane that there is no testing for drivers once they hit a certain age. This bloke honestly shouldn't be trusted to operate a microwave let alone a car. He's going to kill himself or somebody else.

At the end of the day it is just opinion though on where you draw the line. If they'd cuffed him, dragged him down to the Station, and then an officer had kicked him a couple of hours later, I'd agree with you. But I personally would deem it reasonable seconds after the bloke viciously assaulted multiple officers. The rules on Police conduct are not set in stone or based on objective fact. My personal view is that if this officer's conduct is deemed a sackable offence, the rules on permissable conduct need changing. I feel sorry for the Police, they are constantly criticised by the public, media and politicians. Certain public figures couldn't wait to jump on them over this. It's a tough and thankless job at times and the backlash in the media was as depressing as it was predictable.

For me, it's far far more wrong for the Manchester thug to be able to make a legal claim against the Police (this is PUBLIC money, mine and yours) for some trumped up damages claim, than it is for a copper to boot some cvnt in the head that's just attacked you and your female colleagues. Maybe one for the unpopular opinion thread: the biggest cvnt on this page isn't the copper, the thug, or even Tommy Robinson(!), it's the thug's lawyer. How does he sleep at night? Parasite.

Ah, great 😂 I'm similar, on a weekday I start work at 8:30 so that tends to get my brain into gear (with the aid of caffeine) but on a weekend it's mid-morning before I feel human. I'm a bit envious of your cat naps, my wife is similar to you. For me I never wake up from them feeling refreshed, if anything they just make me groggy. On the flip side though I can happily sleep for 10-11 hours in one go, so it's swings and roundabouts I suppose.

Will I ever become a morning person? Given the choice, I wouldn't wake up until at least 8:30am and I'd be in bed until at least 9:30am. The lay in I get probably once every 2-3 months (a weekend where my son is sleeping over at his grandparents) is the highlight of the day. Since I was a teenager my parents have told me this would change when I was older. I'm 31 now, and it still hasn't.

The Police should not be kicking a man in the head while he's on the floor and restrained. However, do I understand it? Of course I do. If some **** had decked my colleague, I'd be dying to put a boot in.