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I live dead close to this but my link road has no pavement. Sigh. Went once and it seems like a really nice small place. Need to go more tbh. In terms of pub on Friday, how about Knight & Garter? Seems nice enough the times I've been.

Oh so it looks like we've got to the point now where one or two are wanting to dictate what we wear to the football now as well. Hats and scarves and gloves soon to be banned I hope unless it's below a certain temperature. Classic. Anyway, see you all again on Wednesday night/Thursday morning and Saturday evening/Sunday morning in two weeks when we go through this merry go round yet again of the same posts and the same whining and the same things being said by the same people over and over and over.

See, that's your opinion. It is not factual. There has been no judgement or evidence to suggest the independent panel have decided to make the relegation battle more interesting. Please don't let your ire at the Premier League cloud the facts of this case. They got their punishment. Also surely you should be championing us to not be in the Premier League? Why do you want us to be in the PL if it's so corrupt? It's come for Everton, clearly, and it's also come for Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Aston Villa, West Ham, Sheffield United, Wolves and more. Not just through these type of penalties but apparently the PL is corrupt by appointing referees to give decisions against those teams, to give out draconian post-game charges etc. It's true, the fans said so. It's so corrupt it might just come for us. A terrifying prospect I'm sure you'll agree.

That's fair, maybe honeymoon is overstating it. I would argue, though, that he is the lynchpin, and with football being (financially) hierarchical & cyclical, if he leaves, or the 2024/25 season may see them regress back to the norm. Basically I doubt very much that it's set to become the "big 8" joining Newcastle up there. However, they should enjoy every second while they can. Anything is possible this season for them with no runaway. Could be very interesting if they have a good Xmas period.

Can't begrudge them doing so well. Must be in could nine right now and crowing at how good it all is. It won't last. Either Emery will go or his honeymoon period will disappear next season, but just like when we were riding and enjoying the good times in 15/16 and 19/20-20/21, drink it in and enjoy seeing another name in the top four instead of the usual suspects. The only annoying thing was a Villa-fan pundit on the Totally Football Show on Thursday. He was massively underdogging them, how they went down in 2016, nearly went bust, as if they've clawed their way back from the brink. At the end of the day they've spunked a load of money and they've got a good manager who is bringing it together well.

These Everton fans are so convinced the PL is corrupt, so why don't they lobby their leadership to resign from the league? Why would you continue to celebrate and take part in a league system you could extricate yourself from. Get away from the corruption should be their priority, surely?

Had this in town the other day around St. Nics. They dove into the right hand lane to go around the car park, which was a dick move but let it go cos that roundabout can be a nightmare. Then they lobbed themselves into the lane to go round towards the cathedral but, uh oh, bus was parked picking up. They immediately stuck their indicator on and started moving into my lane whilst I was coming towards them. Must admit I did have a press of the horn as I passed them. Was sick of their arrogance that I was going to just let them do what they want. As I pulled over in a parking bay to drop the OH off about a minute later and they stopped next to me for about three seconds. Not sure if they left it or shouted something and went but I'm sure I was 100% at fault in their eyes.

So I'm right in assuming the good fans who sing only go when times aren't tough financially and the circumstances aren't "strange"? Any examples of those atmospheres so we can define this and pinpoint when the good fans can go would be great.

This is more an observation more than anything, but it's interesting to read comments about these older houses being poor heat-retention wise. The crew of people on the internet who would rather be homeless than live in a modern house don't put this in their narrative when they're cowing off about new-builds.

This debate goes round in circles and will still be going on in five years, but it's good that people are starting to recognise it's not all the older fans who go to away games that are the cause of this. Chaos in the concourse, silence in the stands from the younger folk, who need to prove they're at the football having a great time rather than watching the game are also a root cause. As are the adults who are coked and drunk to their back teeth who probably don't have the compos mentis to sing. So are the families who are there for a nice day out. It's a collective effort. It's a collective failure. When you start pitting groups against each other it just leads to endless debate than resolving the issue. Twitter posts taking LCFC pics of away ends and going LOOK AT OUR AWAY END EVERYONE IS A GERIATRIC (interpretation not a quote) just makes you look a dick tbh. Maybe if you'd got another pic of a group of lads in their 20's checking their accas or preparing their phones so, when we do score, they can lob themselves down the stairs and film it for SCENES, it might have come balance. Our culture of fervent away ends is long dead unless we're back on top of the Premier League. There's absolutely nothing wrong with groups like UFS doing their best and trying, I'm not saying people shouldn't. But whining and moaning after EVERY. SINGLE. AWAY. GAME is clearly achieving nothing.

Searching somewhere in Leicester showing the Man City-Liverpool game on Saturday (regretted that in the end) and came across this place. It was completely empty at 12:25 just as the teams came out. Filled out nicely as the game went on but was quite a decent place and really reasonably priced. Bit cold this time of year for me where I was sat but nothing a hat didn't fix. Would definitely go again.

You know for sure if this was us people on this forum would be reacting like Everton fans have been - some probably even as unhinged. Football is sickeningly partisan and it is a cast iron fact that whilst we're screaming foul play, we'd be screaming about the corrupt PL/independent panel and balls deep in whataboutery, as EFC fans are doing.

Take a look at the absolute BS in the media from ex pros who can't even agree themselves. This arguement that they'd be any better is frankly ridiculous. In fact I'd love to see a few come through to prove the point 🤷

I suppose the main reason to appeal is to bat off any litigation that might follow from other clubs. Rid the guilty verdict to reduce the lawyers. As mentioned, this season is the best they could hope for a deduction - there are at least three trash teams they'll finish above even with this.

Just do refereeing by AI at this rate, honestly. Unless of course we have two systems and they call each other "arty" and "telly." God forbid referees have such good relations they can use nicknames. Still, stokes up the next refereeing-based debate doesn't it. Their analytics will know what gets the engagement.

Proper feel good story tbh. Just someone you can really route for after being so irrelevant. Big fan of Brandon Aubrey's story as well.

But it's easy, because a large hoard of fans do it to? Even in rugby you'll see Tigers lose a game and the FB comments section is moaning about the referee. It's such a cop out, simple way of shrugging the blame off yourself and players. Blame the referee, blame VAR, sprinkle an intimation that they're all shit, intimate maybe that they're corrupt, that there's an agenda against their team. It's truly pathetic all round tbh. Football is a game. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes Team X loses because a decision might not have been right. Tell you what though, I bet Team X will benefit from a decision that might not have been right. We want perfection. We're never going to get perfection. Maybe referees are "arrogant arsehole bastards" or whatever people want to use. But they're the ones who do it because they can probably take the ridiculous blame and abuse they get week in, week out. They probably have the thick skin needed to be a modern referee. Also. Go to Spain, Italy, France, America. They ALL think their referees are shit, biased, crap, agenda driven. You could bus them in from abroad, you could start teaching kids aged 9 to be referees. They'd still get the blame, they'd still get abuse, they'd still get castigated. This is one of the reasons the sport really is going to the dogs. I'm so tired of it. Everyone wants to moan. Fans, players, managers, club officials. Everyone wants to be hard done by, everyone needs an excuse.

What I found strange about this was that the system of adoption wasn't invasive enough to allow access to medical records? I was surprised that the people making the decision can't compel prospective adopters to see their medical history to find stuff like this out. I've always been aware that the adoption process is very, very rigorous, but the bit where they could only rely on her word when it came to mental health history came across as a flaw in the law.

Everyone saying refs on the spot - but this is why VAR came in in the first place. People steadfastly refusing to accept referees are human and make mistakes - sometimes grave mistakes. Technology is still reliant on humans who can, guess what, make mistakes. Get rid of VAR and just accept referees are as human as the players. Not everything is going to be right, and many decisions on a football pitch are quite subjective.

Honestly that was the most invested in a PL game I've been in a long, long time. It was chaotic, tetchy, controversial, atmospheric, dramatic and genuinely enthralling. I loved it. I still detest VAR but in the very rare, rare circumstances there are games like that when it makes the game pure theatre. Was tremendous

You wouldn't put it past some crank Tory MP to try and bring in a law making it mandatory for everyone/every public building to wear or display a poppy between mid October and mid November.

Eh? Your statement would surely only be true if M&S intended to look like they were setting fire to the Palestinian flag. Intention is everything in this surely? People are pissed that M&S is burning the Palestinian flag, hen anyone with a brain can say with certainty they're not doing that, nor intended. Anyone getting het up about it should be treated with the contempt they deserve. They've been offended by something that isn't there. It's not there. It's a coincidence. Why are people offended by a coincidence?

Not that we didn't already know, but this lockdown inquiry is really going to show the true colours of people and the mental gymnastics to claim that we should've just let even more people die due to covid. Amazing how many are outing themselves as being so willing to wipe so many older people (and tbh just people) out without trying to do anything drastic about it. I don't know if the pandemic either didn't affect anyone they knew, they're generally heartless or so down the "Le Tissier rabbit hole ©" that they're desperate to save face and won't come back up for air. It's sad really, but not a surprise. I'm waiting for the inquiry to report back at how good everyone's personal 5G hotspot is though...

Nah, FIFA basically said three weeks ago that the WC was going to be rotational and 2034 would be either in Asia/Oceania. Saudi were ready to go with a bid because, ya know, cheeky chats with FIFA, whilst Australia had three weeks to put together a complete bid including venues, funding and all the other thousands of pages of technical stuff that takes months to produce. Is it expected that Aus will try and capitalise on this by getting that and the Club World Cup in 2029 though as compensation for being effed over. It's all a sorry farce and they're not even pretending anymore. At least Blatter took it to a vote and made it try to seem even the tiniest bit legit. Infantino just does it openly now.

There's so much nuance to local government finance and a few in here are showing the ignorance that leads to this issue sometimes. Simple fact is when costs for critical services increase like SEN transport, adult social care, children's social care, SEN plans etc and the council doesn't get a penny more from the government to achieve it, this is what happens. I think a lot of the time also these very expensive services are ones only a few use. So whilst millions are spent a year on fostering, adult social care, hundreds of pounds a week on one child's SEN transport - many aren't exposed to this, see it or understand it. So it just becomes not fixing potholes or collecting the bins often enough. Yes, your council tax will go up next year and you'll get less for it... because councils are doing what they need to do to be able to afford carrying on at a base level, and even that is becoming harder and harder. It's not about Labour or Conservative or Lib Dem or Green (though you'll see that weird blame game) this is about local councils being underfunded and stripped back to the point they're collapsing.