Big_Nige

Monga, Page, Evans & Aluko have to be part of the first team squad this season. As much out of necessity than anything else It’s a perfect storm in a way, we are unable to spend our way out the league, we have PSR still hanging over our heads and we have some serious young talent on our hands Each one is a potential gold mine in future transfer fees and long term success has to be the way forward over short term gain. This is the way to get the club back on a sustainable financial footing There’s been numerous 16/17 year olds playing week in week out in the championship over the past 4/5 years. The Bellingham brothers, Archie Gray, Chris Rigg etc etc. I’m not saying play a team of 16 year olds but Monga especially is ready, and from what I’ve seen from the other 3 they aren’t far behind if we’re not going to be brave now we never will be

Marteh Sea-Fwen-Tez

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That we’re in-between seasons at the moment and I’m not having to watch weekly disappointment

You could have flown home and still made the 4th half. Tin Pot

Gally had a stint as caretaker manager at Stoke too

That’s the issue with PSR though. The first 5 players you mention don’t count towards the supposed 23/24 breach. They’ve all dropped out the 3 year rolling period. So you can build a successful club, taking advantage of buying low and selling high. But as soon as you try and compete by keeping your high valued assets and put them on big contracts you’re screwed if you don’t have the commercial revenue to back it up if it starts to go wrong. There are a heck of a lot of mind boggling decisions this board have made over the last few years, and believe me I’m not defending them one bit. But PSR is just not fit for purpose. It’s an horrific barrier put in place to curb ambition. Brighton had a net spend of £153m this summer. The highest on the planet. They could “afford” that because they sold Caicedo, MacAllister and Sanchez for about £150m the season before. What happens when that season drops out of the calculation? They will need to sell, or risk being the next club facing the wrath of the premier league. I’m sure their wage bill is healthier than ours, and they have desirable assets to that other clubs want. But they'll have to sell, even though they have only spent what they have bought in. It’s a joke

Saw him there last Friday too. He loves that Co-op

Ruud is another manger who doesn’t manage the game in front of him. He won’t access a team we’re about to play and look for their weaknesses and ways to hurt them. He’ll just play his way. Which with the players we have in the squad doesn’t work and is impotent Maybe with a squad in his imagine and with players who can carry out his “vision” he might do a good job. But he needs to go, the fact we’ve done the same thing ad nauseam is just maddening. Yes we have a squad short in quality at this level, but he should have found us a way to be competitive

I agree, he didn’t read the room, and I don’t think he handled himself great after the event either. I think the fact he had a kid, at exactly the same time he apparently refused to stay overnight would have been the reason. Not just because he’s a pampered footballer

Just to play Devil’s advocate on this one, we’ll never really know what went down. There’s lots of reports that Ruud asked Winks to stay overnight, but Harry also became a father for the first time in March. Around the same time all this came to a head. There’s always two sides, but I don’t think it’s just as cut and dry as people are making out

I might be remembering wrong, but wasn’t he going to be out of contact at the end of that season. Enzo seemingly froze him out the squad until he signed a deal, which he did in the December, But by that time we’d picked up Yunis and Fatawu, who didn’t sign until after the season started, and he found it much harder to make the matchday squad Thought he was very good away at Bournemouth in the cup, but was clear he needed a season or two playing men’s football before being ready. Shame he spent so long injured on his first loan

WBA in the great escape season. Out of body experience when that went in But there’s been so many, Vardy and Leicester just go hand in hand. It’s going to be so strange to not have him rustling the opposition next season

Some dynamism please. Fed up of watching pedestrian fc Fast flowing football with young hungry players with something to prove. I don’t want to see a squad of plodders picking up a final pay cheque. Would be great to do it with a core of academy graduates This is genuinely a new era now, we need new heroes

You can just imagine the scenario can’t you. Daka is given the role as starting number 9. He scores a few on the way to promotion and we give him a new 3 year deal

We’ve got a manager who doesn’t want to be here, we’ve got players who are just picking up a pay cheque going through the motions. The club is on its knee’s right now I don’t give a shit about the next 5 games, I’d rather the kids got around the squad in the summer, with a new manager, and a feel good feeling round the place. Like what Enzo fostered from day one. Right now it’s poisonous Play BDCR. Ayew, Faes, VK, Soumare, Vestergaard, Coady, Ward and all the other clowns, and let everyone let them know how we feel oh, but beat Forest and hopefully resign them to Azerbaijan on a Thursday night

That Leeds game killed him. Before that he lead the line ok. Scored a few tap ins, and was generally threatening. He had a goal wrongly disallowed against Leeds, then missed a sitter. After that he was rancid. Missed very good chances away at Plymouth and Millwall too, confidence disappeared and he becomes a circus footballer For all of Patson’s faults I genuinely think it’s his mentality that lets him down the most. If he misses a chance he’s mentally gone, and then the clown shoes come out

That post promotion feeling is really important for any club, if the fixture list is kind you can ride the wave and pick up points you might not in that difficult mid season period. We did it under Pearson, beating Man U, drawing with Arsenal etc etc. Cooper just installed a pessimism and negativity from day 1. Banged on about premier league experience, how tough it is in this division etc etc. This isn’t delusions of grandeur but we’d been there for the last decade, as a club and an fanbase we knew that, but treating us like he’s just took charge at Luton instantly got many fans backs up. And our existing squad had the relevant prem experience. We needed some stardust, not journeymen, as the existing squad had the bones to compete, with 4 or 5 starters coming in. What Cooper & the board did in the summer was inexcusable. Fulham away just sticks in the mind more than most. 2nd game of the season. We should approach it with no fear and we approached it like cowards. A team in the image of the manager Ruud, he’s just out of his depth. A modern manager that over-coaches without coaching the actual match in front of him. He’s pathetic and indemic of so many modern coaches and why football is a duller as a spectacle than it ever used to be. Both the terrible appointments, both will never be seen in the premier league again, and both say more about the scattergun unplanned nature of our board than anything else

Is anyone actually saying that in real life? I think we’ve got a fanbase that is apathetic, which is the worst thing a fan base can be. I wish I cared more, I used to, and I want to again. God knows it used to ****ing hurt. This season I’ve just lost the will. I’m probably part of the problem to be fair. I went Hereford away, dancing on the terraces when Oh Lloyd, Lloyd Dyer put us 2-1 up. I was at Vicarage Road for Deeney Day. I was at WBA when Vardy made us believe, and I was at Palace when the impossible dream became an impossible reality. Couldn’t be arsed to go today. Sold my ticket. I’ve not been arsed all season truth be told There’s a disconnect all across the club. We need a reset at board level and across the playing staff. We need new hero’s and new memories. I don’t want to fall out of love with this club, it’s been the one constant in my life. But at the moment, for the first time in my 40+ years I can see a life that doesn’t revolve round LCFC and it genuinely makes me sad

No matter how good/shit we’ve been in the last decade I’ll always look at our manger and think would Pearson have done that? Ruud doesn’t deserve to breath the same air

I remember going too, Carling Stand, spent most of time throwing Maltesers at someone’s bald head about 6 rows down. The hi-jinx of youth eh. Apologise to the follically challenged middle aged bloke I hit on at least 6 occasions

Let’s get the band back together again

Nelson was getting rave reviews before his injury. But yeah, the rest of the youth other than Cover just hasn't worked

I can assure you I’m not missing the point, I’m saying there are 22 more games to get the amount of points needed to stay up. Today is a massive game between 2 clubs that will definitely be in the mix come May. To stay up you more than likely need to beat the teams around you, especially at home, but defeat wont mean certain relegation like some people are saying My point is more around the hyperbole involved in football. One game in a 38 game season played in December does not define your season, but I agree, it can damage it. Drawing at home to your relegation rivals in May and missing a penalty to go 3-1 up, yes that is season defining

And we had 4 games left to save ourselves after that game, which included Liverpool and Newcastle After today we have 21 games to play