JJD_LCFC

I like that you aim to provide balance, and having differing views we should be able to do so. My view is I didn’t want Russell as manager. Felt completely the wrong appointment for our club, what we need and his record as a manager is barely positive. We are seeing exactly as feared. His teams repeatedly make the same mistakes and he never changes. I would like him to have improved from rangers and saints but he just repeats the same patterns. To me that is not coaching and is actually stifling the players, which we see every week. If we had a manager who understands league 1, plays for results over style, I think we would be in a far better state than our lowest ever league position.

If he won his first 3 games everyone would praise Martin. If he wins his next 3 the pressure will ease on him. he has only won 2 in 7! That is why the negative comments now. football has always been this way. Yes criticize the goal conceded because we see the same thing every week. Same as under Brendan Rodgers and conceding from corners. Can there not be a time where the defenders can go direct? and not play a risky pass that gives away a goal. If Martin adjusts the constant need to pass and amends this slightly, build up when you have time, when under pressure go direct. I think we will win more games that way. But to repeatedly give the same goal away, that is stubbornness. A good coach would change that.

He has won 2 games out of 7! in league one. Conceded 11 goals as well. Considerable.. look at the transfers we have made this summer. Very considerable for league one. What is there to change my mind then? I only go on results and what we see on the pitch. Everything has been exactly as feared, and follows his pattern at Southampton and Rangers. he doesn’t coach defending, plays one way only and his own style puts so much pressure on players who can not do it. That is not coaching and managing. He should be getting the best out of the players we have. Not hindering them and refusing to change. As for the “ you do you” comment. This is a forum, to discuss opinions. We all want Leicester to succeed.

Because he only plays one style of football, he prioritizes style over results and is a lazy / arrogant coach. we are 13th in league one! Where the manager has spent a considerable amount of money and wages on players who are average at best. He is the highest paid manager in the league and has done nothing to show for it. We concede the same goal over and over, poor pass out or counter attack. We could concede 3-5 goals in all league one games so far. oxford were the only side who had the quality to score 4, but Plymouth, Burton, notts, Stockport all had considerable chances. I don’t condone the chants but easy to see why the boos are heard. but we knew this when he was appointed. King power sacked Pearson early on and preferred someone to pass the ball more. I think they have forgotten that results start with getting the environment correct and we needed a manage to instill this. Martin is not the right person for the job, as we have seen in his first couple of months here

Sorry to say but I just disagree with your message. my own bias before he arrived was down to his poor results, unwillingness to change his style of play and comes across incredibly arrogant with nothing really to show for it. Oxford for me, was not an outlier. Stockport was the outlier! Every game this season we give 5 chances to the opposition. Plymouth game McCarthy made 4 great saves. Stockport scored 3, 2 disallowed and hit the cross bar plus other chances near missed. His tactics concede so many clear cut chances each game. Oxford just had the quality to score. he did inherit a terrible culture, and lost one talented player in fatawu. But he also spent more than other league one clubs and gave huge contracts to Burns, Cullen and Chaplin. All 3 barely show anything to justify being signed. i do have a perceived opinion that Martin is not the manager for us and after 2 months I have not seen anything for me to think I was incorrect. I would much prefer to have a manager like Challinor, someone who knows the league, gets a team hard to beat, plays for results not style, and builds a culture so when he leaves the club are in a good place.

Agreed! This manager will never understand his own tactics create the issues against Oxford. Thomas was crap all season at LB and never gets dropped. Poor at CB too. way to hinder the development of a young player, by dropping Mcfarlane completely after 1 game.

He is delusional. process in coaching is just a term to reward failure. His process has failed last 3 jobs and he didn’t even do well at MK Dons or Swansea. Staggered he gets jobs.

Matt Elliot was a hero of mine. What a great player for us. unfortunately he is awful on commentary. Says absolutely nothing. The only ex players worth listening too are Matt Piper and Matty Fryatt.

Personally didn’t know that, can only go on what I see in the pitch. Not surprised though, Russell tactics, ego, stubbornness and constant blame of others rather than take accountability will push everyone away.

Yesterdays game shows he has lost the team already. they didn’t play with any determination or intensity. Looked motionless at 2-3-and 4-0 down. players will give a new coach his first training session, first new signing to see if he can spot a good player or not, and tactical decisions in a couple of games they will be bored of his coaching and input already. first signing was Cullen- not even good enough for the bench. And there is only one game plan which makes all defenders play under pressure. add in Russell throws players under the bus rather than take any accountability. Another disaster of an appointment which was always going to happen. stockport away a very tough game as well against a good team who play league one football, as it should be played and we should do. to think Challinor was available in the summer too.

We all knew this would happen. he is a lazy / terrible coach. Doing the same thing over and over again, and losing constantly for the last 3 seasons. Is not coaching! he prefers to look for excuses rather than look towards himself and his decisions, which can actually move towards a positive change.

- Top is still owner and continues to be absent - Rudkin has been promoted after 3 relegations - Martin has been employed, we all knew what would happen. Completely the wrong appointment for what we need. - Cullen, Chaplin, Burns, McCarthy. Appear Martin players who offer next to nothing, all on long term contracts. only positive are the younger players. Braybrooke, Page, Alves, Joseph, Aluko all look promising and are doing great. Full support for these. Worry is Alves game time will be reduced for players who are on loan, and we continue to develop others instead of our own. positivity will return when Top and Rudkin leave. And decisions are made for the best interest of the club. Not a vanity project who all prefer style over results.

I Hope you are correct and we can see this more often after 5 games. My worry is this didn’t happen at Southampton or rangers. His style of play does not and will not change and previous results show not the best way to go. Agreed, the Ipswich game the team played relatively well, until Reid and Cullen came on. Plus we were helped with not having Skipp, Hamza, Okoli, Souttar and Thomas at LB. If he wants possession. Can not play any of these. Yes more space against Ipswich but also we had better technical players on the pitch who are capable of playing the football Russell wants. Hopefully a similar line up today and we can see progressive football and better results. I do admit I did not want Russell to be the manager in the first place so maybe I am more critical to him than I Would have been for others. I just can’t see the style of play working and my worry is Russell doesn’t coach defending, his teams always concede and literally give chances away. In the championship season we beat his Southampton team 5-1 and 4-0 i think. Even Steve cooper we beat him. I want him to do well but I think we need to see huge changes if he is to succeed here

Very valid point. rangers are a fantastic club, but very hard to manage. My main worry for Martin is his style or play and he does not change, at all. maybe I watch the league win too often. But how many goals were scored with under 5 passes. Nearly all! Martins football is too passive for this and really limits the number of attacks, shots on goal the team will create. At Rangers, he was hated. Such a tough situation. But surely you adapt and learn from mistakes. In friendly games and start of our season. Shows he has not changed. That’s my main worry. How many clear chances do his teams create each game, and counter with the opposition. One Burton player had 5 decent shots against us. At home! The style and refusal to adapt worries me. hopefully I am completely wrong and Russell Martin succeeds.

This is his football. It will not change. Needed security escort to get out of rangers. And still insists on playing the same way every game and seems staggered why it never works.

I had a very similar first impression on Monga’s first few games in the premier league. Looked a great talent and for an academy play. So exciting. I think the reduced standard that we saw in the championship season can be put down to the horrendous environment he was in. Football should always be a joy to play, especially at 15 / -6 years old playing for local club stuff of dreams. however imagine being in a squad with Winks, Faes, Ayew, Vestegaard and many others, the complete lack of professionals and role models. Has to be so demoralizing and every single player we had dipped. Jordan James started amazing, then end of season got dragged down. monga looks a very talented player and I certainly want to see him happy and enjoying his football. Hopefully our initial first impression will be seen again and he can have a great career.

You are correct. Issue is this is always the game plan, it will never change. Genoa, notts county. formation, style of play, will remain the same. This is a guaranteed consequence of the game plan Martin has. His teams always pass the ball, that is his plan. His teams can never defend, and they always give clear chances away every game.

He is a player who does not want to be here. why are we keeping him and why have we not learnt anything from precious seasons. An old boss previously told me don’t be penny wise and pound foolish. We have had so many players who don’t want to be here and remain. Have rejected offers for Souttar Thomas Faes Mavididi etc. all the while we have had 3 relegations and lost out on millions to try and get more in a short term transfer deal. any one who doesn’t want to play for the club. Get rid. Hurts a lot more in the long run both with culture in a club and financially.

This is not a case of told you so. we all knew what would happen when Martin was employed. result does not matter to him! Play the same style every single week. It’s lazy coaching. our success came with a hard working team, do the basics perfectly and battle for every point. Why go away from what brought the club success. Astounding. we should get back into this game. But he needs to go against his coaching and play 2 up top and attack.

So unfair for all other clubs apart from the top 6. spurs going to spend close to 300 million this summer, add wages is no issue. Yet Villa and Newcastle have to sell just to spend. Can never improve or challenge. Palace did excellent as you said. And still have to sell just to spend. shows what a top manager Emery is. Brendan as a coach was very good, but he downed tools when didn’t get what he wanted. He played a huge role in our demise.

Agreed! All rules were brought in place to protect the top 6. Laws were changed post our league win, post Newcastle new ownership. the top 6 all signed to joined a new league and yet they are still so favoured. Top 6 clubs get away with anything. everton points deduction, Leicester, Nottingham forest. No issue with any deduction. But nothing for Chelsea and man city apart from a fine. They spend 200 million per transfer window and only consequence is a fine. Vastly unfair to the league. Villa have to sell, yet sours can spend 200 and apparently all is fair.

I do agree that there is a larger problem than the managers mentioned. Removal of Top and Rudkin is massively needed. however I would say the managers have certainly caused issues too. Steve Cooper signed diabolical players and we are still stuck with Skipp and Bobby Reid to this day. Russell Martin is the completely wrong choice for our current situation. Playing possession football will not work in this league. Every game will be competitive and physical rather than tactical/ technical. He does not and will not adapt, and we do not have the players he requires. Our board are incompetent and definitely need removing but managers played a part in this mess too. Out of those 8 managers. Only 1 has progressed from our club. All others are at lower levels and shows the appointment of managers has been woeful for 4- 5 seasons. As you mentioned if nothing changes at the top we will continue in a downward trajectory anyway. Sooner the better on this and hopefully a new buyer comes forward quickly.

As others have correctly mentioned a huge waste of money. have to take any offers for him and just move him on. If any interest just sell. He doesn’t come across as a negative person and always tries. Just he is not very good. certainly should not play as a 6 again.that should be Braybrooke.

Agreed! Issue is this is Russell Martin’s style of play. Result is never the main outcome. Possession means more. We will give 2-3 chances per game playing out. This will not improve, it is his style. Let alone we don’t have the players to do what he wants. He will play always play this way regardless. I think the slow possession style restricts second gears. He will be like Brendan and Enzo, plan B will be to do plan A better. It is completely the wrong appointment but that is what Rudkin and Top have done for years. Poor decisions. last time in league one Pearson built a team capable to win the league, experienced players, and people who will battle (Steve Howard, Hobbs, Oakley, Brown etc) Russell’s team do not do that. He wants to pass the ball and will have more technical players as we have seen with his recruitment of Cullen and Burns.

The topic is about Hamza and should stick to that. However, I have to disagree that Luke Thomas passing and movement are exemplary. Occasionally he puts in a good cross, not exemplary. i don’t think it is hate, and I Hope it is not hate at all. They are footballers and we should only comment on what we see on the pitch. Just that he is not very good. He has had a couple of great games against Salah, and got the praise for it. There have been numerous examples of Luke being at fault for goals we concede. See the recent Genoa game for example. Dire defending. Sheffield united didn’t want him, Middlesbrough didn’t want, we are stuck with him for a further 3 years. we would be better off without Hamza and Luke and hopefully play the younger players this season. Braybrook, Alves, Page etc. that would be a something to look forward to in what will be a challenging season where media will have is favorites to win, and games will be very competitive.