honeybradger

Rudkin and Whelan are the equivalent of Danny Simpson. They were in the right place at the right time and managed to get an incredible achievement on their CV. Similar to how no team will ever rely on a Danny Simpson type player to win the PL again, Rudkin and Whelan are clearly below the level required to make us competitive in the Premier league again. They got lucky, we got lucky, it was a perfect storm and we benefited off of it for the following few years with a lot of scouting talent coming to the club. Once they got a whiff of Rudkin being out of his depth and not properly utilising the scouting department to its potential we had an exodus of talented scouts and mid level decision makers. Now what we are left with is completely dysfunctional to the point where I dont mind if we dont sign players this summer because im resigned to them being dead wood on arrival like the last few windows.

Why not both? come on Martin you dolt, do your magic!

Agree to disagree. Vestergaard is not 'unmatched' at slinging balls through the lines, if he was unmatched then he might be worth something to a good team despite his defensive woes. There are many defenders across Europe that progress the ball up the field significantly better than him. What looks special when he does it is standard for a lot of players. Look at the Everton game highlights, if Vestergaard pulls off that Tarkowski pass then that would be his best pass of the season and Tarkowski is known as a below average passer in the PL. Being able to accurately hit a long diagonal to a forward on the other hand is fairly rare and more valuable. If you gave Van Dijk vestergaard's defensive abilities then he would still get suitors for his passing alone.

Lmao, no he's not better than Van Dijk on the ball. Van Dijk can actually play accurate long balls and is famous for hitting the diagonal ball to Salah. I cant remember the last time Vestergaard played our wingers into a dangerous position.

Anyone who doesnt think this bloke is nowhere near the level required is clueless. Look at the lump in these goals for gods sake. At some point it has to stop being 'he's not being played in the right setup' and more that he doesnt have the attributes to be a competitive centre back. He's not even half as good on the ball as our fans like to make out either.

We will struggle to find a buyer for more than £6mil. That's a lot of money for the clubs that will be looking at him.

Cherki also started playing regularly for Lyon at 16. The best players nowadays just tend to start playing first team football at a young age.

July the year before they got relegated. Famously came in and sacked Eustace 6 games into the season then signed big name Rooney. They throw a lot of money around but I wouldnt call them good owners just yet.

Pretty sure it was under the American owners that they got relegated to league one.

King Power have only ever 'cleared' loans owed to themselves by transferring them to equity (they would ask for more money if they sold). As far as im aware they have never taken on debts owed to external banks. Genuinely think our issues go far further than PSR but we'll have to see i guess.

What i dont understand is how we pay off the £350mil of loans invested into paying off our losses in the last 5 seasons though? OK we're only losing £20mil this last season (allegedly) but the club still have massive loans that are picking up interest that were levied against premier league income we dont have, surely at some point we need to turn a profit and start investing our league money into paying back loans only?

Does getting promoted even get us out of this issue though? Surely with all the losses over the last few years and the loan repayments kicking in even alternating between 1 year in the PL and 1 year in the championship doesnt stop the club being dried out financially? Maybe someone more financially literate than myself can give the answer but I just dont see where the money is going to come from and how we are going to get out of this. For me the worries and struggles on the pitch are dwarfed by the financial worries off it.

"Good times are coming" Please can someone explain to me how the club will not go back into administration within the coming years? £70mil loss per season for the last 5 seasons. Losses paid for by high interest loans taken out against Premier League revenue for the next 10 years. We are likely to be in the Championship for many of those next 10 years. Club not selling fringe players for more than they are worth (Mcateer, Iversen, Thomas) Club signing/retaining aging players on high wages above what they are worth (Ayew, BCDR, Vestergaard, Winks, Coady, Ndidi) No attempt to improve from those last 5 years of mismanagement. We are the definition of a recipe for disaster and I dont believe we have felt the full effects of the last 5 years of awful management yet. If someone disagrees please explain otherwise.

Lowlight: Oliver Skipp signing for £25mil. It not only changed my outlook on the season from cautiously optimistic to resigned to relegation but also brought me down to Earth thinking we were back on the way up when really we still have a long way left to fall before things get better.

This video gives a feel of why he's so highly rated. Came into a Wednesday side with 2 points from 10 that was useless in every way and turned them into a direct, high press side that is comfortably midtable in the championship. People always ask the question "what difference would a new manager make when the players are clearly out of their depth", here we have Rohl getting the players to perform way above their level.

Bit harsh on Ranieri. Nigel and Walsh get the credit for the squad but Ranieri got everything right tactically that season.

It was a bit harsh on Dean Smith but I was trying to make a point that he's not viewed that well by our fanbase but is still a substantially better manager than Martin.

I was surprised when he dropped back down from the u21s to the u18s. He was performing well at that level.

Out of interest for those that want Martin for his promotion credentials, what makes him a better option than someone like Dean Smith who failed here but has far better credentials at that level than Martin.

We are not the ones that need to move on, it's the likes of yourself that are stuck in the past. The league and fa cup win have bred a mentality of complacency at the club where because we've had success recently we need to accept whatever is served up. With a club our size we cant afford to he complacent as we will just end up crashing down the football pyramid. Years of mismanagement has led us to our worst top flight season ever and a ridiculously overpaid, under talented squad. Bringing in Russel Martin is yet another bad decision that is going to drag us further down, the contempt from him doesnt come from entitlement, it comes from a desire to have some form of long term stability at the club. If we hadn't won anything the fans would still be unhappy at the decision making at the club.

The season before he joined Swansea they were 6th. The season after he left MK dons they went up to 3rd.

I'm nots sure he goes. If his job was under threat surely we would have heard something by now. Realistically we needed a new DoF in January to start preparing for signings in the summer, a new hire isnt going to be able to bring in what's needed before pre season starts

After that save im available for him any time

Stolarczyk is one of our best players and some want him to be second choice next season because he miskicks the ball sometimes. He keeps the ball out of the net which is all that matters.

there is usually a tradeoff, we cant sign a hermansen every season and even he is lacking at commanding his box compared to stolarczyk